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JulesMaximus

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Man, that was a great race but I have to say, one of the worst podium interviews ever.

I also think Hamilton deserves no blame for the contact with his teammate. He left Rosberg plenty of room coming down into that turn.
 

Brian Stirling

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Man, that was a great race but I have to say, one of the worst podium interviews ever.

I also think Hamilton deserves no blame for the contact with his teammate. He left Rosberg plenty of room coming down into that turn.


Agree 100% -- I don't know or care who she is but man that was painful to watch.

The accident or non-accident was 100% Niko's fault and it's my guess he was trying to take Lewis out even if it meant taking himself out as well. OTH, it may well be that his performance was ruined by the debris from Seb's tire exploding but that wasn't Seb's fault beyond the typical risks teams take with tires. I hope Niko is penalized for his actions even though I feel for him vis-a-vis the tire debris damage to his car.


Brian
 

_Rick_

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The thing about the Mercedes incident that I noticed from the stills, was that Hamilton turns into Rosberg long before he starts running out of track. So I'm somewhat siding with Rosberg here - he left enough space, but should have turned in maybe a tad earlier.

Hamilton shouldn't have turned in that early though, and got VERY lucky, he didn't get a puncture from that contact. It was Rosbergs corner, by being on the inside, and I'm surprised the FIA punished him for that.

On the up side, all my teams and drivers performed well, so it didn't matter too much, that I missed making my predictions. I didn't expect to get a straight point out of Wehrlein, and Grosjean made up for the past few disappointing races.
 

Brian Stirling

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Lauda seems to be rooting for Nico and against Lewis and has defended Nico numerous times when the facts would suggest otherwise. Perhaps there's something going on behind closed doors that the rest of us aren't aware of, but Nico's action in the last race could hardly be considered fair or justified. The relationship between there drivers is toxic and I expect more bad things from them going forward. Let's hope neither one kills the other or someone else...


Brian
 

_Rick_

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Lauda seems to be rooting for Nico and against Lewis and has defended Nico numerous times when the facts would suggest otherwise. Perhaps there's something going on behind closed doors that the rest of us aren't aware of, but Nico's action in the last race could hardly be considered fair or justified. The relationship between there drivers is toxic and I expect more bad things from them going forward. Let's hope neither one kills the other or someone else...


Brian

German TV (RTL, not Sky) were mentioning how Lewis was Niki's favourite. I don't think Niki has favourites though - he merely appreciates some things more than others. On safety matters, I doubt Niki and Lewis will ever see eye to eye, for example.

Also, a ten second penalty for "avoid 7th gear" and "yes, you have to shift through it" -- radio rules are awful, and I'm no Nico fan.
 

JulesMaximus

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German TV (RTL, not Sky) were mentioning how Lewis was Niki's favourite. I don't think Niki has favourites though - he merely appreciates some things more than others. On safety matters, I doubt Niki and Lewis will ever see eye to eye, for example.

Also, a ten second penalty for "avoid 7th gear" and "yes, you have to shift through it" -- radio rules are awful, and I'm no Nico fan.

Well, the rules are the rules and the team didn't help Hamilton out at all when he was having trouble during the last race. I think the team knew it was either tell Nico what to do and take whatever penalty the stewards handed out or risk retiring the car.
 

LTC8K6

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Would anyone have guessed that Kimi would ever be third in the points?
 

Brian Stirling

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German TV (RTL, not Sky) were mentioning how Lewis was Niki's favourite. I don't think Niki has favourites though - he merely appreciates some things more than others. On safety matters, I doubt Niki and Lewis will ever see eye to eye, for example.

Also, a ten second penalty for "avoid 7th gear" and "yes, you have to shift through it" -- radio rules are awful, and I'm no Nico fan.


I don't know, it seems Lauda has stood behind a number of the bone head moves Nico has done this year.

I think the rules about driver coaching are absolutely stupid and need to be changed. When a car is having problems that could result in an accident or incident the prohibition against assisting the drivers is dangerous. I know it's a slippery slope kind of thing but when the consequence of this prohibition might be someone getting hurt or killed then it's time to rethink the rules even if it opens the door to driver coaching.

I would LOVE to hear Kimi talking more on the radio -- love his attitude..


Brian
 

_Rick_

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I don't know, it seems Lauda has stood behind a number of the bone head moves Nico has done this year.

I think the rules about driver coaching are absolutely stupid and need to be changed. When a car is having problems that could result in an accident or incident the prohibition against assisting the drivers is dangerous. I know it's a slippery slope kind of thing but when the consequence of this prohibition might be someone getting hurt or killed then it's time to rethink the rules even if it opens the door to driver coaching.

I would LOVE to hear Kimi talking more on the radio -- love his attitude..


Brian
It also takes away the insight into the relationship between a driver and his race engineer. Massa and Smedley, Vettel and "Rocky" - those were always interesting to listen into, and I think taking them away doesn't make the driving any harder, since before those guys gave the drivers even more to do and their interventions helped the viewer understand what was going on in the car, since as a viewer you also knew when the tires were going away, where a car would gain an advantage over another, and you'd also get an actual insight into how many settings the car had.

Much more fun and involvement than just looking on how the drivers make "clumsy" mistakes with their settings and struggle for no apparent reason.
 

satyajitmenon

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I understand the spirit of the rule, although the way it's written is too ambiguous. Maybe they should re-write it to specify that the pit cannot give the driver information on competitors (or even team mates) tire strategy & relative position. But everything else (including which engine mode, issues with tire wear, etc) should be fair game. What's the point of having all that telemetry and data if you can't use it in the race.
 

JulesMaximus

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Lewis Hamilton is back to his winning ways and leading the championship. I don't know how Nice Rosberg could possibly beat Lewis. He just doesn't seem to be able to get as much out of the car as Lewis can.
 

_Rick_

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What worried me, was that the Mercedes was this strong in Hungary.

They're really making their car more competent this year, and except for wet or cold conditions, there's no track where anyone can challenge them anymore.
 

KingstonU

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I gotta say, Ricciardo is starting to look like the best driver on the grid, and quickly becoming my favorite as he is nice, fun an likeable as well. Early in his career I didn't think too much of him other than being a goofball with a permanent grin. But thus far he has outperformed all his team mates, and fairly consistently as well, including Vettel and Verstappen!
 

KingstonU

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Well another piece of some good news at least. Gutierrez, another useless pay driver, is out to make way for Magnussen at Haas while Palmer keeps his seat at Renault. Both Magnussen and Palmer are much more deserving of an opportunity. I gotta say the grid is much more interesting for 2017 as it really feels like we have the best drivers in the world on the grid.
 

JulesMaximus

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Man, Verstappen put in a hell of a drive in Brazil in diabolical conditions. All those laps behind the safety car he was constantly exploring the braking zones which was brilliant but the thing that impressed me most was probably that slide coming up to the main straight that he managed to catch.
 
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KingstonU

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Agreed that was a phenomenal drive and one of the highlights of the season. Few drivers have demonstrated that kind of prowess in the rain, namely Senna, Schumi, Hamilton and Button, and now Verstappen.
 

JulesMaximus

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Great end to the season. Congrats to Nico Rosberg on winning his first World Drivers Championship. Nice to see some emotion from him too.
 
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LTC8K6

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Once it was clear that Verstappen was done, Rosberg should have lifted as soon as Vettel got near, and let Vettel try to catch Hamilton.

Since Hamilton wanted to play racing games...
 

JulesMaximus

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Once it was clear that Verstappen was done, Rosberg should have lifted as soon as Vettel got near, and let Vettel try to catch Hamilton.

Since Hamilton wanted to play racing games...

Hamilton would have just turned up the wick and left Vettel in the dust. Which wouldn't have changed anything anyway.
 
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LTC8K6

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Hamilton would have just turned up the wick and left Vettel in the dust. Which wouldn't have changed anything anyway.

It would have shown that Hamilton was deliberately backing Rosberg up...which we all knew anyway.

I think it might have been interesting if Vettel was in second place earlier, with less laps on those new tires.
 

KingstonU

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*Jaw Drop* OMG Rosberg! NO-ONE saw his retirement announcement coming!
After thinking about it though I totally get where he is coming from. Luck did play a big part him winning this championship, and he is definitely one of the Top 10 and perhaps even ~Top 6 drivers on the grid now, but he is not Top 3. And he is 31 and his chances of getting a 2nd championship before he gets too old will again come down to a good amount of luck.
And giving it everything to take on a championship takes a lot out of him and his family. Go out after having achieved the ultimate goal as opposed to fizzling out like Button and many other drivers did? I think I actually approve of his decision.

NOW ---- WHO is going to replace him?!?!? The entire paddock is going to be fighting for that seat! They will even be willing to drive for free to get the chance
 
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