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TheSlamma

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Sorry, a lot of that was really good defense by Butler and Ryan.
Anderson dropped that backwards pass without no one near him which gave the ball to the Pats in the redzone and Dropmarious had 2 in his hands that came out. Nice try though, it's time for you to back pedal out of this thread.

Keep in mind I'm not saying the NE D did that bad, I'm saying the Broncos D did better against a way better offense.
 

Childs

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Anderson dropped that backwards pass without no one near him which gave the ball to the Pats in the redzone and Dropmarious had 2 in his hands that came out. Nice try though, it's time for you to back pedal out of this thread.

Keep in mind I'm not saying the NE D did that bad, I'm saying the Broncos D did better against a way better offense.

Also felt like Peyton missed on a few big plays. It was closer than it should have been.
 

Banana

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omg.. I cant imagine how that patriots kicker feels for missing the PAT in the 1st quarter.
add him to the Vikings kicker to the suicide watch?
Nah, NE had plenty of game left to make up for that miss.
 

TheSlamma

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Also felt like Peyton missed on a few big plays. It was closer than it should have been.
Oh for certain.. the Broncos offense is not good this year. Peyton did look good in the first half, but the second was the word I have called the Broncos O this entire season.. lethargic. 3 and outs constantly.
 

gorcorps

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Does Arizona know this is the championship game?
If there's one thing we learned from last week, it's that Carolina is absolutely capable of letting a blowout get back to a close game in the 2nd half by never scoring again.
 

zinfamous

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I said Brady played badly esp, in the first half. He played scared. But as I said the Pats play lost them that game and isn't that true (missed field goal)?

Anyhow, going to relax, maybe drink a little (though I'm supposed to have quit drinking in support of a friend who's in rehab) and watch the game. Enjoy the night.

yeah, they missed some easy plays and scores, and so did Denver. But the only reason those mistakes mattered for either team was both teams' D making it that way. NE has more experience this year with big leads, though.

I don't think Brady played that poorly--his number show it, but all of those numbers were created because he was shell-shocked.

Damn right he played scared. They got to Peyton too, of course. he just made less errors. I about shit my pants when Peyton actually took that hit. I'm so used to him hitting the ground in fetal, I can't remember the last time I saw him volunteer to absorb a hit.

In the end, NE still had a phenomenal chance to tie or win the game--TWICE--in the final 5 minutes. Denver stupidly "turned the ball over" with plenty of time by playing to defend, rather than to win (those stupid run calls on their final two possessions).

Opting not to kick that field goal....yeah, it was pretty dumb in retrospect, but only because it didn't work. NE has always had great success on those 1 yard first down conversions. Kicking the field goal still means they need to score again anyway (but they would still have a chance to tie it if they don't score...). I think Belichick made that right call there, because if you get that conversion and then your TD quickly with plenty of time, you're in a great position. Being back at 8 points down isn't the worst.

I bet you ask Belichick and Brady to make that call again at 4th and 1, he'd probably go for it every time.
 

zinfamous

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If there's one thing we learned from last week, it's that Carolina is absolutely capable of letting a blowout get back to a close game in the 2nd half by never scoring again.

true. But we also learned that Arizona hasn't yet realized that this is the playoffs.
 

BUTCH1

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Also felt like Peyton missed on a few big plays. It was closer than it should have been.

He did, but he, (as Brady) were both forced to make throws that were rushed because of the pressure. I guess all of us can sit here and think "gee, how can a HOF-Pro-bowl-MVP QB miss that throw" but we are not being realistic because when people are bearing down on you and you've been sacked and smashed multiple times it will affect your accuracy.
 

SP33Demon

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He didn't have time to throw. Our O-line is depleted. But, we generally, have better plays to augment for that. Like, screens, reverses, misdirection, etc. It was just an odd offensive strategy, line up Brady in an empty set and let him get pummeled.

Everyone where I was watching it was equally confused at the play calling.

I don't think you realize how hard it is to throw screen passes when the defenders were almost always close enough to bat them down. Brady was hit 23 times according to ESPN...
 

BUTCH1

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Nah, NE had plenty of game left to make up for that miss.

yup, like kicking a chip-shot FG instead of going for a 4th down conversion. Guess Bill didn't notice the fire under the ass's of the Denver defense today. This is not his first boner in big games either, in the 18-1 SB he went for a 4th and 13 vs a 43yrd FG try, they lost to the Giants by 3. Let's face it, last years SB Bill was bailed out by Butler, everyone was screaming at the TV for BB to call a TO but he didn't.
 

Phokus

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Pats need to seriously upgrade the o-line, that was just flat out garbage. Brady was hit 20 times this game. Ridiculous.
 

TheSlamma

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I don't think you realize how hard it is to throw screen passes when the defenders were almost always close enough to bat them down. Brady was hit 23 times according to ESPN...
I think he blazed out.. realized he was probably just anger typing based on how irrational those thoughts were.
 

Phokus

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yup, like kicking a chip-shot FG instead of going for a 4th down conversion. Guess Bill didn't notice the fire under the ass's of the Denver defense today. This is not his first boner in big games either, in the 18-1 SB he went for a 4th and 13 vs a 43yrd FG try, they lost to the Giants by 3. Let's face it, last years SB Bill was bailed out by Butler, everyone was screaming at the TV for BB to call a TO but he didn't.

Butler was able to make that play because Bill intentionally didn't do the TO. Seattle was expecting them to take a TO, but Bill forced them to go with the play they called.
 

BUTCH1

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I don't think you realize how hard it is to throw screen passes when the defenders were almost always close enough to bat them down. Brady was hit 23 times according to ESPN...

Exactly, Christ, fucking Miller alone was a nightmare. Does anyone think a "direct-snap" or any other type of trickery was going to work today?. NE has some work to do in the off-season and the O-line needs upgrading somehow.
 

BUTCH1

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Butler was able to make that play because Bill intentionally didn't do the TO. Seattle was expecting them to take a TO, but Bill forced them to go with the play they called.

IDK, IMPO Carrol wanted the QB HE picked to "out Brady, Brady" so he could get Wilson the game MVP award. Kinda backfired for him.
 

zinfamous

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yup, like kicking a chip-shot FG instead of going for a 4th down conversion. Guess Bill didn't notice the fire under the ass's of the Denver defense today. This is not his first boner in big games either, in the 18-1 SB he went for a 4th and 13 vs a 43yrd FG try, they lost to the Giants by 3.Let's face it, last years SB Bill was bailed out by Butler, everyone was screaming at the TV for BB to call a TO but he didn't.

don't you mean that everyone was patiently waiting for Lynch to win the game within the next 2 plays?

 

zinfamous

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I like this David Johnson.


I hope he stays healthy for Arizona or wherever he goes.
 

SP33Demon

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Patrick Peterson will be lucky if that fumble doesn't end in points for Carolina. Dumb dumb play.
 

Capt Caveman

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Pats need to seriously upgrade the o-line, that was just flat out garbage. Brady was hit 20 times this game. Ridiculous.

When Solder went down and they moved Vollmer to LT, RT became a turnstile. If Solder was healthy, having Vollmer at RT would have made a huge difference in pass protection this season.
 

BUTCH1

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don't you mean that everyone was patiently waiting for Lynch to win the game within the next 2 plays?


Actually I was expecting BB to call a TO, BM would score and we would get the ball back with about a minute left and 2 TO's left, plenty of time for Brady to get them in FG range.
 

JEDI

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did the Cardinals QB line up as a receiver?!
I sneezed missed that?
 

BUTCH1

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When Solder went down and they moved Vollmer to LT, RT became a turnstile. If Solder was healthy, having Vollmer at RT would have made a huge difference in pass protection this season.

Yea, true. I get that Miller is fast and can read snap-counts well but what I saw today was flat-out ridiculous. He just ran past everyone wherever they lined him up. Considering the beating/duress Brady took today I'm surprised they managed to score at all.
 
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