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FelixDeCat

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About a month ago I had a dream that I owned a few thousand shares of a penny stock that suddenly went bananas. It was very exciting because as I was watching the streaming Level II Quotes the stock went from $.001 to $.50, then traded back and forth finishing over $1.00. The next day it went from $1.00 to $5.15!! I've had dreams like this before but I could not remember the name of the company, except this time, it was Groupon.

SO....one month ago I checked into Groupon and it was in the $2+ dollar range with bad recent earnings and a bleak outlook. I decided to pass.

Fast forward to last Friday and today, Tuesday:




So I finally decided to buy a few $4.50 call options today. My total investment is about $100. I dont know it if it go to $5 by expiration of 2/26/16, but I have a chance at least.


Well, GRPN hit $5.28 today...my dream came true but my options expired too soon. If I had simply bought the shares when I first dreamt of it, I could have made over 100%.
 

Imp

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Well, GRPN hit $5.28 today...my dream came true but my options expired too soon. If I had simply bought the shares when I first dreamt of it, I could have made over 100%.

Chill, bro. I could have made a year's wages this past week if I went all-in into POT. It was forming a pretty obvious bottom around $21 and was up to $25 yesterday. But recovery/rally based on short-covering, speculation, and all-in = bit risky so no.
 

Charmonium

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Jobs report: +242,000 jerbs. Hourly wages went down or something though.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/03/04/jobs-report-is-strong-but-fed-can-wait-on-hike.html

But because the Fed supposedly didn't "prepare" the pussy market, Fed might not hike rate until June. Subsequently, yay, market is up, everything is up!!!
The fed, especially under Yellen, seems to take communication very seriously. Just look at how long they prepared the market for tapering out their bond buying. Then how long they took to make the first rate increase.

The time you should worry is if they do something that no one expected. That means they know something the rest of the market doesn't.
 

FelixDeCat

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Chill, bro. I could have made a year's wages this past week if I went all-in into POT. It was forming a pretty obvious bottom around $21 and was up to $25 yesterday. But recovery/rally based on short-covering, speculation, and all-in = bit risky so no.


Yeah, well Chesapeake (CHK) has made up for it, breaking from $2.50 to $5.70 in TWO WEEKS. So its not a total loss. Also, I think the rally in small cap oil stocks might be overdone and some pull back is in order to $3.75

For the long term buy and hold, CHK might be worth more than $5 in a few years. I also like Oasis Petroleum (OAS) which has gone from $3.90 to $7.00 during the rally.

But I think UPL still might go bankrupt despite rallying from $.19 to $1.44 after getting more time to work things out.
 

Imp

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The fed, especially under Yellen, seems to take communication very seriously. Just look at how long they prepared the market for tapering out their bond buying. Then how long they took to make the first rate increase.

The time you should worry is if they do something that no one expected. That means they know something the rest of the market doesn't.

Something that I saw other people say: how well could an economy be doing if it can't handle a measly 0.25% rate hike from 0.50% without months of coaxing and warning?
 

Charmonium

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Something that I saw other people say: how well could an economy be doing if it can't handle a measly 0.25% rate hike from 0.50% without months of coaxing and warning?
It doesn't really matter except for how people react to it. The main purpose of telegraphing moves far in advance is to manage expectations. The affect on the economy is probably nominal especially considering the fact that the fed has done nothing to shrink the money supply. Total assets on their books haven't changed since 2014. What will really matter is when they start to sell those assets (or stop replacing them as they mature). But I don't think that will happen until you see a convincing increase in core PCE. Apparently this is the indicator the fed favors over core PCI. Here is their current forecast but don't be surprised if they're wrong. It wouldn't be the first time.
 
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fuzzybabybunny

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Anyone know why DDD and SYSS (the two big 3D printing companies) have been doing so poorly for so long? Is the main reason simply because 3D printing really isn't that useful for production?
 

Michael

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3D printing companies corrected from hype to reality. they are only going to sell so many units and make so much profit and the technology is not as useful as the inital hype, at least not yet.

A lot of investors lost a lot of money when the prices corrected and there has been no good reason to buy in since the correction. Plus the overall market is pretty tough now.

Michael
 

Michael

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One of the topics that I rarely see addressed here is management strength. If you want to see my thoughts on being a leader in a public company, my blog is a good start. For example:

http://mgpotter.com/what-does-it-mean-to-be-a-strategic-cfo/

My LinkedIn profile is in the "about me" tab.

If you want to be a buy and hold style investor and buy individual stocks, knowing the management team is important.

Michael
 

Imp

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3D printing companies corrected from hype to reality. they are only going to sell so many units and make so much profit and the technology is not as useful as the inital hype, at least not yet.

A lot of investors lost a lot of money when the prices corrected and there has been no good reason to buy in since the correction. Plus the overall market is pretty tough now.

Michael

Yes, the "soon we won't need factories, we'll 3D print everything at home" hype...

Because 3D printers are great at assembling complex devices with moving parts with hundreds of different materials, different melting points, and heat treatments applied.
 

IronWing

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Yes, the "soon we won't need factories, we'll 3D print everything at home" hype...

Because 3D printers are great at assembling complex devices with moving parts with hundreds of different materials, different melting points, and heat treatments applied.
I think even for folks who looked at 3D printing more soberly, the allure is gone. If I happened to have access to a 3D printer to play around, I would probably be set for a few nights of tinkering and enjoy the nerdliness. Do I see any need to buy one? No.
 

Charmonium

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Wasn't the Army going to start putting 3d printing stations in the field. I think they were going to use them to 3d print mechanical parts. Except I didn't think you could get anything with necssary strength since metal printing is done by powder sintering.
 

DigDog

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i am now officially one of the cool kids, having received as bonus, 250 shares of the company where i work.
and they are going up as well! made a whole 10 bucks today.
 

Imp

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Wasn't the Army going to start putting 3d printing stations in the field. I think they were going to use them to 3d print mechanical parts. Except I didn't think you could get anything with necssary strength since metal printing is done by powder sintering.

They could probably print a plastic positive for a custom or out of production part... then use it to make a sand negative and then heat some high-grade steel to 1500 C, pour it into the mold, heat treat it, and finish it off with a grinder.
 

Charmonium

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Hong Kong home sales fell 70% year over year in February... But the Chinese, where are the 1.3 billion Chinese from within the country?

http://www.afr.com/real-estate/resi...tial-sales-plunge-70-per-cent-20160307-gnc8fw

And read something about how rises in certain Chinese cities were insanely big over the past year, so much so they looked similar to what happened in 1997 before crashing.
I'm sure you must realize that you can't trust any of the stats coming out of China. At one time you might have been able to trust HK numbers but even that's gone down the tubes. So if Chinese govt is admitting a 70% decline it's either because they have to for some reason or it's not nearly as bad as the data they're not showing you.
 

Imp

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I'm sure you must realize that you can't trust any of the stats coming out of China. At one time you might have been able to trust HK numbers but even that's gone down the tubes. So if Chinese govt is admitting a 70% decline it's either because they have to for some reason or it's not nearly as bad as the data they're not showing you.

Supposedly, Hong Kong still has control over itself... but if I remember correctly, a few Hong Kong dissenters "disappeared" very recently.
 

Imp

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Oil's probably going back up to the $40 to $45 range.

Looks like the plunge may have been caused by excessive shorting?

That's great news though because shale producers said they'd go crazy above $40 recently.
 
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