**Official 2018-19 NFL Patricia = Whisenhunt Week 2 Thread**

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thestrangebrew1

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Question for you guys: Do you guys have a package to watch all the games or are you just watching nationally televised games? I'm in CA and wanted to watch the Bills game because Josh Allen is from the next town south of me and all I was able to get was a crappy FB stream that got taken down halfway through (lol?) Anyways, since I'm looking to cut cable I decided to try CBS All Access and all I got was my local channels (Chiefs vs Steelers). Tried FuboTV also and still just got local cbs. I have xfinity for cable, but like I said, might be cutting the cord in the next few weeks.
 

KMFJD

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Question for you guys: Do you guys have a package to watch all the games or are you just watching nationally televised games? I'm in CA and wanted to watch the Bills game because Josh Allen is from the next town south of me and all I was able to get was a crappy FB stream that got taken down halfway through (lol?) Anyways, since I'm looking to cut cable I decided to try CBS All Access and all I got was my local channels (Chiefs vs Steelers). Tried FuboTV also and still just got local cbs. I have xfinity for cable, but like I said, might be cutting the cord in the next few weeks.
Up in the frozen wasteland of Canada we have DAZN which streams all the games + redzone and i think it's about $150 a year
 

KMFJD

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I remember back in the 80's my relatives would complain when the beer during carnival back home was switched to Stella
 

gorcorps

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Question for you guys: Do you guys have a package to watch all the games or are you just watching nationally televised games? I'm in CA and wanted to watch the Bills game because Josh Allen is from the next town south of me and all I was able to get was a crappy FB stream that got taken down halfway through (lol?) Anyways, since I'm looking to cut cable I decided to try CBS All Access and all I got was my local channels (Chiefs vs Steelers). Tried FuboTV also and still just got local cbs. I have xfinity for cable, but like I said, might be cutting the cord in the next few weeks.

NFL licensing is a nightmare (actually it's all pro-sports, but NFL is what I know). Basically the only service that allows you to watch every game is NFL Sunday Ticket, which is a DirecTV product. If you have DirecTV in your area, you HAVE to have the TV service to add Sunday Ticket to it... so you can't sign up for a streaming only version unless you're in an area that doesn't support DirecTV.

I just find HD streams of the games I want on reddit. The way they have it worked out now, it's physically impossible to get what I want legally.
 

Cal166

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Question for you guys: Do you guys have a package to watch all the games or are you just watching nationally televised games? I'm in CA and wanted to watch the Bills game because Josh Allen is from the next town south of me and all I was able to get was a crappy FB stream that got taken down halfway through (lol?) Anyways, since I'm looking to cut cable I decided to try CBS All Access and all I got was my local channels (Chiefs vs Steelers). Tried FuboTV also and still just got local cbs. I have xfinity for cable, but like I said, might be cutting the cord in the next few weeks.

Just google "reddit nflstreams" to watch every game
 

BUTCH1

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Wow, Browns just traded Josh Gordon to the Patriots for a 5th round pick next year. Can Bill B get this talented (but very troubled) guy to tow the line?.
 

thestrangebrew1

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Got it thanks!

Yea I just saw the Brown trade. All that time invested for a 5th round next year. And in the AFC to boot. We'll see if Billy B can work his magic on Gordon.
 

BUTCH1

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Got it thanks!

Yea I just saw the Brown trade. All that time invested for a 5th round next year. And in the AFC to boot. We'll see if Billy B can work his magic on Gordon.
They almost had no choice, he had failed multiple drug tests and they stood by him as he rehabbed more than once. in the latest debacle he injured his hamstring in some kind of photo shoot on Saturday. His stay in Foxborough might be a short one, BB will explain the rules and his leash will be short. It was painfully obvious watching the Jax game the Pats (and Brady) really miss the legit deep threat Brandon Cooks provided them last year, this means safeties can play up in the box most of the game. Everything and everyone else they've tried has not produced the result they wanted, if Gordon actually wants to play he can easily provide that.
 

Retro Rob

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800 yards passing 9 td's in 2 games, post game lmao

Call me a hater, but this was a ridiculous clown outfit, Ryan Fraud-Patrick. I don't blame him for taking in all the pub, but he knows he's really a one trick pony, and so do we.
 

KMFJD

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Call me a hater, but this was a ridiculous clown outfit, Ryan Fraud-Patrick. I don't blame him for taking in all the pub, but he knows he's really a one trick pony, and so do we.
It was done as a joke....he's been through enough ups and downs to realise it and is just having fun with it along with his team mates, most of the stuff he's wearing is his WR's
 

Retro Rob

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a better effort but still same crap as always by Lions


Jets looked like butt v the Dolphins. And who the hell is Matt Brieda?

If any player wants a huge contract, just play the Lions. They got Matt Flynn PAID.
 

Retro Rob

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It was done as a joke....he's been through enough ups and downs to realise it and is just having fun with it along with his team mates, most of the stuff he's wearing is his WR's

I know it was a joke. That still doesn't mean he didn't look silly.
 

BoomerD

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Da Bears are embarrassing the SeaChickens.

This isn’t looking like a good year for them.
 

BUTCH1

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Call me a hater, but this was a ridiculous clown outfit, Ryan Fraud-Patrick. I don't blame him for taking in all the pub, but he knows he's really a one trick pony, and so do we.
A 'one trick pony" does not throw for 800+yds and 8 TD's in 2 games, the dude is just playing lights out right now and his receiving core is getting open for him. Maybe this was the right QB for this group, it would seem so, don't expect them to bench him when Winston comes off suspension either.
 

glenn1

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A 'one trick pony" does not throw for 800+yds and 8 TD's in 2 games, the dude is just playing lights out right now and his receiving core is getting open for him. Maybe this was the right QB for this group, it would seem so, don't expect them to bench him when Winston comes off suspension either.

While he probably won't last as starter for the entire season I agree the Bucs won't be in a hurry to put Winston back in. Unless Fitzmagic gets hurt next week it's entirely possible he's already compiled better stats in 2 weeks than Bradford and Josh Allen will all season. And at the rate the Giants offense is going I won't be surprised if Fitz puts up more yards and TDs before their week 5 bye than Eli Manning does all season as well. BUF, ARI, and NYG are all looking like they have legitimate shots of all going 0-16 this year. BUF @ MIN this week in particular looks like an opportunity for Cousins to break the 7 TD/game record and NYG v. NO in week 4 has the look of a complete bloodbath as well.
 
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Yea, very impressive for the guy, he looks like a keeper for sure.

Yeah. Its a weird feeling. Now if they have a big lead I don't sit there with a sinking feeling, knowing they'll find some way to fuck it up (see Colts 2013 playoffs, I remember one of the Colts fans on here being mopey at halftime and I was like "I don't think you understand, the Colts are still in this, they're playing the Chiefs, with Andy Reid as coach and Alex Smith at QB and you have Andrew Luck"). I don't even worry much if/when the other team starts coming back. I don't care if the refs aren't calling their way. I didn't worry that Kelce wasn't a major factor in the first game. I don't worry that they haven't really gotten their running game going (which, holy hell, if they do, and it starts setting up their play action and screen passing game, then I don't know how the hell you stop them). I don't worry about Reid's sometimes dumbass playcalling (but I'll still go WTF are you thinking you human walrus?). I don't worry about time of possession, clock mismanagement, the defense probably making every other team look like they're the 2nd most amazing in the league (behind the Chiefs with Mahomes). Hell, when Mahomes has his first multiple turnover game, I won't worry because he's the type of QB where he could have 5 turnovers, but he'll get 6 TDs or something to makeup for it. Turnovers don't weigh on him, he's already just itching for his chance to get the ball back. He's used to having to outgun the opposing team (had to do that basically the entirety of his time at Texas Tech).

I'm actually looking forward to the tough schedule.

The Bills immediately played better after that dude quit. I think it motivated the team.

Also, same guy:
https://twitter.com/vontaedavis/status/416331111875100672

Yeah, how demoralized are you that you give up that money to quit then? And if you're the rest of the team, going "holy shit, wow, we're that shitty", yeah I'd probably feel motivated to play better.

Yep, so what does Seattle do? Sign Walsh...

I remember that. Vikings fans, I can feel your pain. Say the name Lin Elliot to a Chiefs fan and see them do a Harry Potter "he who shall not be named". Which I believe a kicker kept them from winning another playoff game or two by missing a couple of field goals (including an easy one). Hard to top Gary Anderson in 1998 though, talk about heartbreaking.

His 2nd season doing this, Romo still hasn't realized that he isn't on the field during the game.

"OK, Time Out! Time out, TO! call it now! Now! TO!"


Yeah. I like his enthusiasm, but he needs to find a new presentation, like he hasn't quite found his commentating voice, so he sounds almost prepubescent and you hear his voice crack now and then.

Da Bears are embarrassing the SeaChickens.

This isn’t looking like a good year for them.

It shouldn't really surprise anyone. They didn't address their problems much (honestly seemed to make them worse) in the offseason, and to me look like they're about to enter full rebuild mode. Only I think there's uncertainty, they don't know how to change (focus on offense, or try to rebuild the defense? They still have talent on both sides, and don't sleep on them making a surprise run if they get a bit healthier), and there's been rumors about Carroll not necessarily planning much of a future there (which even if they aren't true, he deserves for how he'd acted before, like the way he left USC). And it sounds like the team (namely the players) aren't even fully onboard with Russel Wilson, so you wonder if his future might be in question as well. If Carroll leaves then I wonder if he might would prefer to go to a different team that is a QB away from being really good or if he'd stick it out and hope to become a Seattle demigod (think someone like Elway in Denver). I could see the Packers making a play for him after Rodgers retires if it happens sooner than later.
 
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A 'one trick pony" does not throw for 800+yds and 8 TD's in 2 games, the dude is just playing lights out right now and his receiving core is getting open for him. Maybe this was the right QB for this group, it would seem so, don't expect them to bench him when Winston comes off suspension either.

He's not a one trick pony, but he's done stuff like this before (multiple times even I think), where he'll string together enough good games (with some real "whoa" ones), that it completely fucks up the team, as they think "oh well maybe he'll be the answer at QB" or they had a young QB they were priming to take over and then he basically ruins them and the team is never confident in them again. But if they stick with Fitzpatrick it won't last. He's like a more consistent Rex Grossman, where some games he puts up numbers that look like he's a top tier QB, but then he'll have games where he looks so bad you wonder how he's still in the league (6 INT game against the Chiefs a couple of years back).

Frankly, he's about the worst thing to happen to the Bucs as he's not the long term answer, so he'll holdup Winston's development. Heck, this year, if he keeps the starting job, he's stalling Winston and this offense getting in sync (they'll have to fret on how much is the offense, how much is Fitzpatrick, and that means the offense is going to have issues moving to Winston). Even if Fitzpatrick keeps playing well, I don't see the Bucs going "yeah, let's ditch Winston and roll with him" (like, even for most of the season unless its at the level he's been at the first two games), so he'll effectively end up wasting a year of the team unless he plays poorly and Winston steps in and plays well. Their best bet would be if Fitzpatrick is still playing good, to trade him to some team that is playing good-great but really lacking at QB. But the thing is, I don't know who that would be. Maybe the Steelers? Say Big Ben has an injury and will be out for several games, and if he then retires this year, they could roll with Fitzpatrick while they sort out their QBofF. Maybe the Broncos if Keenum starts playing bad but the defense is playing great.

The market for Fitz is gonna be low, because he's not the long term answer, and a lot of teams have their QBotF, and even their plan for keeping them on the bench to sit for awhile if that's their plan. He's old enough that no team is going to consider him for more than the backup or a single year deal. The Bucs might want to keep him as the backup, but there's a high chance it causes drama and problems, which can sink the team. I believe the Bucs are fairly young, and if they ruin the team trust, I don't think they'll get it back, so they could end up squandering having what looks like a franchise QB in Winston.

If Fitzpatrick keeps playing well, I could see the Raiders trading Carr away (maybe the Giants if Eli retires) and then signing him while Gruden plans on drafting his QB (I don't think Carr is).
 

Svnla

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Look who is 2-0 and at the top of its division, them Fins.

In other news, Fins was lucky to win vs. Jets (INTs against the Jets QB did help a lot). Two horrible unforced fumbles by the Center and QB were horrible to watch. Pee wee football players could handle the ball better than those pros.
 

BUTCH1

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He's not a one trick pony, but he's done stuff like this before (multiple times even I think), where he'll string together enough good games (with some real "whoa" ones), that it completely fucks up the team, as they think "oh well maybe he'll be the answer at QB" or they had a young QB they were priming to take over and then he basically ruins them and the team is never confident in them again. But if they stick with Fitzpatrick it won't last. He's like a more consistent Rex Grossman, where some games he puts up numbers that look like he's a top tier QB, but then he'll have games where he looks so bad you wonder how he's still in the league (6 INT game against the Chiefs a couple of years back).

Frankly, he's about the worst thing to happen to the Bucs as he's not the long term answer, so he'll holdup Winston's development. Heck, this year, if he keeps the starting job, he's stalling Winston and this offense getting in sync (they'll have to fret on how much is the offense, how much is Fitzpatrick, and that means the offense is going to have issues moving to Winston). Even if Fitzpatrick keeps playing well, I don't see the Bucs going "yeah, let's ditch Winston and roll with him" (like, even for most of the season unless its at the level he's been at the first two games), so he'll effectively end up wasting a year of the team unless he plays poorly and Winston steps in and plays well. Their best bet would be if Fitzpatrick is still playing good, to trade him to some team that is playing good-great but really lacking at QB. But the thing is, I don't know who that would be. Maybe the Steelers? Say Big Ben has an injury and will be out for several games, and if he then retires this year, they could roll with Fitzpatrick while they sort out their QBofF. Maybe the Broncos if Keenum starts playing bad but the defense is playing great.

The market for Fitz is gonna be low, because he's not the long term answer, and a lot of teams have their QBotF, and even their plan for keeping them on the bench to sit for awhile if that's their plan. He's old enough that no team is going to consider him for more than the backup or a single year deal. The Bucs might want to keep him as the backup, but there's a high chance it causes drama and problems, which can sink the team. I believe the Bucs are fairly young, and if they ruin the team trust, I don't think they'll get it back, so they could end up squandering having what looks like a franchise QB in Winston.

If Fitzpatrick keeps playing well, I could see the Raiders trading Carr away (maybe the Giants if Eli retires) and then signing him while Gruden plans on drafting his QB (I don't think Carr is).
But the thing is he's playing so well right now the Bucs just CAN'T bench him. For the most part the NFL is all about "what have you done for me lately", winning games, (specially in the fashion Fitz is providing) sell's huge amounts of tickets. Winston will sit until Fitz starts sucking plain and simple.
 
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