***Official*** 2018 Stock Market Thread

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DietDrThunder

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I dont understand this market frenzy. It is crazy. My portfolio value has increased in 9 trading days what it did the whole 1st quarter of 2017.
 

DietDrThunder

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Trump outlawed selling.

I know you meant this as a joke, and I’m not trying to sound like I’m attacking you in any way, and I know that this is a thread you started, but let’s try and leave these type of comments in the Politics and News forum. I personally am sick of politics and I would prefer keeping this thread focused on the stock market.
 
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FelixDeCat

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Your observations are correct however no matter who is president, you cannot deny their respective impacts on the economy (Obamacare, corporate tax reform, etc). Trump has done tremendous things to help improve opportunities for all Americans. While most do not care for his personal behavior and statements on occasion thus garnering some temporary unpopularity, no one can deny his impact (or any president's impact). So his economic impact on potential legislative action will continue to be mentioned. The personal politics have another sub-forum.

The next thing the Trump administration seems to be undertaking is the renegotiation of NAFTA.
 
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FelixDeCat

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I currently have VRX shares. It seems as though shorting puts on the market in general has been a very successful strategy but it is not without risks!
 
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TheVrolok

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Actually hoping Trump decides to push for tariffs on solar panels, could use a little good news for solar.
 

KB

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maybe a crypto crash?

I keep wondering this everytime a stock mentions blockchain and goes up 200%. I think too few people are buying into crypto coins at this point to trigger the kaboom, but perhaps with a NAFTA collapse, government shutdown and crypto collapse it will be enough.
 

FIVR

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Muh AMD calls up 80%. Where is that Dullard fellow who said he would call me out on my price targets for AMD? Probably hiding under a rock, counting his losses on INTC.


And I still have a full 360 days until I have to exercise or sell. Too easy.
 

dullard

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Muh AMD calls up 80%. Where is that Dullard fellow who said he would call me out on my price targets for AMD? Probably hiding under a rock, counting his losses on INTC.


And I still have a full 360 days until I have to exercise or sell. Too easy.
I'm here. You said AMD at $20/share by April if I recall the dates correctly. We'll see then.

If you recall correctly, I do not think INTC is a good buy either at the moment.
 

FIVR

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I'm here. You said AMD at $20/share by April if I recall the dates correctly. We'll see then.

If you recall correctly, I do not think INTC is a good buy either at the moment.

You said AMD was fair value and INTC was undervalued when AMD was 9$ and INTC was $47. Look where they went since then. Your rationale was "HURR DURR P/E RATIO"

Now you come back and pretend you're bearish on INTC? LOL. Pretty funny to see you walk those goal posts around. Keep walking because you're gonna look even dumber in about 10 days when AMD reports earnings.
 

dullard

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You said AMD was fair value and INTC was undervalued when AMD was 9$ and INTC was $47. Look where they went since then. Your rationale was "HURR DURR P/E RATIO"
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=threads/official-2017-stock-market-thread.2495701/page-20#post-39150649

My own words "I'd actually stay clear of both at the moment. Both stocks are overvalued in my mind, unless you are looking at short term plays." I don't see how you twist that into saying that INTC was undervalued. Who is the one moving the goal posts?
 

FIVR

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http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=threads/official-2017-stock-market-thread.2495701/page-20#post-39150649

My own words "I'd actually stay clear of both at the moment. Both stocks are overvalued in my mind, unless you are looking at short term plays." I don't see how you twist that into saying that INTC was undervalued. Who is the one moving the goal posts?

I don't memorize every asinine post you make nor do I bother actually reading your posts unless they closely follow or quote mine. You were the one who called me out and claim you'd follow me around trying to catch me in a bad trade. Looks like that backfired, badly.


You admit that according to you AMD was overvalued at $9 . What's your Dullard price target? 7$? You can't go much below that without being outside of the range of the 20 or so analysts that rate AMD.


$20 by April is unlikely but possible. I see AMD trading in the 15-18$ range by then... which is why I bought $10 1/19 Calls when it was $9.90.
 

dullard

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I don't memorize every asinine post you make nor do I bother actually reading your posts unless they closely follow or quote mine. You were the one who called me out and claim you'd follow me around trying to catch me in a bad trade. Looks like that backfired, badly.

You admit that according to you AMD was overvalued at $9 . What's your Dullard price target? 7$? You can't go much below that without being outside of the range of the 20 or so analysts that rate AMD.

$20 by April is unlikely but possible. I see AMD trading in the 15-18$ range by then... which is why I bought $10 1/19 Calls when it was $9.90.
AMD closed at $10.85/share when I posted on Nov 2, 2017 that both were overvalued, I do not recall the exact price that it was at 12:10 when I posted. So, you turn that into pretending that I said it was overvalued at $9? Maybe you should try reading my posts if you wish to comment on them. I'd be wary of buying AMD over $10/share right now unless they can get their CPU prices up. Good product prices make a good stock, not just good products. If AMD can get their product prices up, I'll gladly raise that $10/share number. But not until AMD can show that they can get higher prices to stick.

Sadly for you, I do remember what you write. In November you wrote:
Watch an learn - AMD will be $20 in less than 6 months while INTC will be back in the 30s if they're lucky.
I'm watching. Now I'm trying to learn from you. Your less than 6 months would be some point earlier than May 2nd, 2018. But now you are saying that $20/share is unlikely in April. It is hard to learn from your posts when they keep changing so much. Unless, are you calling a huge spike on May 1st? Please help me learn your tactics.

So far your tactics seem to mostly be going back in time, picking a low number, claiming that you bought then, and suddenly sold on the day you posted. How do I apply this to my investment strategy going forward?
 
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FIVR

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AMD closed at $10.85/share when I posted on Nov 2, 2017 that both were overvalued, I do not recall the exact price that it was at 12:10 when I posted. So, you turn that into pretending that I said it was overvalued at $9? Maybe you should try reading my posts if you wish to comment on them. I'd be wary of buying AMD over $10/share right now unless they can get their CPU prices up. Good product prices make a good stock, not just good products. If AMD can get their product prices up, I'll gladly raise that $10/share number. But not until AMD can show that they can get higher prices to stick.

Sadly for you, I do remember what you write. In November you wrote:

I'm watching. Now I'm trying to learn from you. Your less than 6 months would be some point earlier than May 2nd, 2018. But now you are saying that $20/share is unlikely in April. It is hard to learn from your posts when they keep changing so much. Unless, are you calling a huge spike on May 1st? Please help me learn your tactics.

So far your tactics seem to mostly be going back in time, picking a low number, claiming that you bought then, and suddenly sold on the day you posted. How do I apply this to my investment strategy going forward?

The posts are dated and unedited (you've been here how long and apparently can't tell if a post has been edited?). Read this very thread, where I stated AMD would go to 12$ before January 19th. How would I write that on January 1st when AMD was 10$ and change the post without editing it? Do you think I have a time machine? Apparently you do. That must be why you try to catalog my posts and follow me around, pointing out when my posts are different from reality.



I do not in fact have a time machine, I'm simply way better than you at valuing companies. That's why you thought AMD was overvalued at $10 while I bought calls and already have 80% gains. Sorry if you can't follow along. It appears stocks are just not your thing...
 

jpiniero

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Hmm, Wall Street doesn't seem too worried about the shutdown even though it sounds like it will happen.
 

FelixDeCat

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Hmm, Wall Street doesn't seem too worried about the shutdown even though it sounds like it will happen.


As far as the shutdown is concerned....it will only matter when the market decides it matters. I see it as a risk for now.
 
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brianmanahan

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I dont understand this market frenzy. It is crazy. My portfolio value has increased in 9 trading days what it did the whole 1st quarter of 2017.

US reits haven't been booming with everything else, they're flat for 3 years now
 

KB

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US reits haven't been booming with everything else, they're flat for 3 years now

I noticed this too. I just bought the VNQ etf because REITs seem to be the only undervalued part of the market after the big runnup. People are avoiding REITs because of rising rates but most REITs have fixed rate debts. Plus as people flee bonds they want yields from something and REITs pay high yield.
 

TheVrolok

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After/premarket movement on solar has been fun since Trump announced tariffs. MAGA... I guess... Sigh.
 
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