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PlanetJosh

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Would banks fail if the stock market crashes 90% or more? I'm trying to figure out if it's worth it to sell some stocks (10-25%) in order to buy non brokered CDs for protection against a market crash like 90%. But if the banks will go under then maybe the FDIC would dissolve as well.

I know it just seems like common sense to have a nice chunk in bank CDs. But if there's going to be the bank mess I mentioned then I could've had the extra dough to do the fun trading others are doing now. I'd probably dip into the CDs to trade short term anyway. I'm smelling a Catch 22 thing here somewhere.
 

KB

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Would banks fail if the stock market crashes 90% or more? I'm trying to figure out if it's worth it to sell some stocks (10-25%) in order to buy non brokered CDs for protection against a market crash like 90%. But if the banks will go under then maybe the FDIC would dissolve as well.

I know it just seems like common sense to have a nice chunk in bank CDs. But if there's going to be the bank mess I mentioned then I could've had the extra dough to do the fun trading others are doing now. I'd probably dip into the CDs to trade short term anyway. I'm smelling a Catch 22 thing here somewhere.


You sound like you need to buy gold to sleep better at night and diversification in some CDs is a fine idea. First the FDIC won't dissolve and banks don't depositor money in stocks. If the banks did start failing again do to more bad loans, we will get more bailouts like in 2008 and the Fed will print money to keep the FDIC alive.
 
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Buy AAPL on the dip??
Meh. Sounds a bit risky. If anything I would suspect even more of a drop before a bounce.

Doing shit like taking off iPhone sales disclosing tells you you their numbers will only get worse. Until they have something that can replace the iPhone I dont see it climbing that much. The iPhone is hands down their most important product, and it looks like it hit the top of the bell curve.

At least Amazon has other means.

Either way I'm too broke to buy significantly in either of these stocks, so my opinion is probably worthless anyways.
 

jpiniero

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Yeah, seems that Apple's admitting they have plateaued on iPhone unit sales, and they've also hit the limit on how high they can increase prices... so there's not much growth opportunities left outside of services.
 

quikah

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Geez, my wife is an idiot and a genius. She showed me the portfolio yesterday (I am generally hands off, let her do whatever she wants). She trades a lot of options and has done really well, but she also bought moviepass in June (because she liked the service when it first started) which has basically been wiped out. WTH. She is up 56% for the year, so hard to be mad.
 

FelixDeCat

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Geez, my wife is an idiot and a genius. She showed me the portfolio yesterday (I am generally hands off, let her do whatever she wants). She trades a lot of options and has done really well, but she also bought moviepass in June (because she liked the service when it first started) which has basically been wiped out. WTH. She is up 56% for the year, so hard to be mad.

She is up 56% for the year? Does she have a sister?
 

quikah

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She is up 56% for the year? Does she have a sister?

Heh. I tried tracking her trades at one point since I get all the confirmation emails, but it is dizzying and not for the faint of heart. She is on some Chinese forum that has some heavy day traders on it where she gets all her tips.
 
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Anyone have predictions as to how this week will proceed?

Still have plenty of earnings to report as well as election results Tuesday.
 
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Oh and as far as Apple I just read this reuters headline: Apple cancels production boost for iPhone XR: Nikkei

Yeah, it's going to tank further....
 

PlanetJosh

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So now it's a Blue Bump? Not that I believe that. Instead I've heard like the rest of us that the big markets like gridlock. So I'm assuming that means gridlock helps prevent either side from enacting rash horrible financial laws that could damage Wall Street in a long lasting way. So maybe it's a Gridlock Bump.
 

FelixDeCat

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So now it's a Blue Bump? Not that I believe that. Instead I've heard like the rest of us that the big markets like gridlock. So I'm assuming that means gridlock helps prevent either side from enacting rash horrible financial laws that could damage Wall Street in a long lasting way. So maybe it's a Gridlock Bump.

I thought the market was going to go down, but apparently now its wants to go back up - way up!!

AAPL back to $210!
AMD back to $22!
TLRY back to $149!
TSLA $350!
AMZN up nearly 7%!

Holy smokes!!
 

FIVR

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I thought the market was going to go down, but apparently now its wants to go back up - way up!!

AAPL back to $210!
AMD back to $22!
TLRY back to $149!
TSLA $350!
AMZN up nearly 7%!

Holy smokes!!

You must have missed the thread where i explained that the market would rally bigly if the democrats won because unrestrained Trumps are bad for the market.
 

ImpulsE69

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Are we sure it didn't go up because red won senate?? Either way, I want somethign different. Good idea to get into CD's yet or wait a bit longer? Highest I can find is 2.75 for 12 months. Really don't want to go much longer than that...maybe 18 months tops.
 

jpiniero

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You must have missed the thread where i explained that the market would rally bigly if the democrats won because unrestrained Trumps are bad for the market.

Probably would have gotten Tax Cuts 2 tho. So (short term anyway) the market is in the hands of the Fed. They're not expected to raise rates this time but they could.
 

FIVR

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Are we sure it didn't go up because red won senate?? Either way, I want somethign different. Good idea to get into CD's yet or wait a bit longer? Highest I can find is 2.75 for 12 months. Really don't want to go much longer than that...maybe 18 months tops.

Why would the stock market go up on an expected outcome of no change? Makes no sense. Rs have had the senate for years now. Forecast was for them to keep the senate and pick up seats, which is what happened.


It rallied because nobody was sure the Dems could overcome the gerrymandering and stop Trump from F-ing everything up even worse than he already has.
 

FIVR

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Probably would have gotten Tax Cuts 2 tho. So (short term anyway) the market is in the hands of the Fed. They're not expected to raise rates this time but they could.

Tax cuts are cancelled out by Tariffs. Look at the market since they passed the tax plan. Worst performance in years.
 

ImpulsE69

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Why would the stock market go up on an expected outcome of no change? Makes no sense. Rs have had the senate for years now. Forecast was for them to keep the senate and pick up seats, which is what happened.


It rallied because nobody was sure the Dems could overcome the gerrymandering and stop Trump from F-ing everything up even worse than he already has.

Uncertainty on either end. Have you seen the market lately? Every little thing sends it reeling.
 

FelixDeCat

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Are we sure it didn't go up because red won senate?? Either way, I want somethign different. Good idea to get into CD's yet or wait a bit longer? Highest I can find is 2.75 for 12 months. Really don't want to go much longer than that...maybe 18 months tops.

Make no mistake, the Republican tax cuts and deregulation pushed by Trump have created an economic boom. FIVR is good at picking stocks but his heart bleeds for the type of socialism which would destroy our economy.

Had the dems taken both branches it would have been an economic catastrophe for America.
 

FelixDeCat

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Tax cuts are cancelled out by Tariffs. Look at the market since they passed the tax plan. Worst performance in years.

WRONG. The market ran up for 18 months and is only now settling back. Best performance in years.
 
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jpiniero

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Look at the market since they passed the tax plan. Worst performance in years.

The Fed Rate increases is what's causing the pain. The Tax Cuts pretty much saved the stock market crash... for now. Don't expect it to last however.
 

FIVR

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Best performance in years.

Lmfao. Perfect example of Trump pumpers in their bubble. It was only weeks ago you were talking about a bear market, but somehow this is the best performance in years? Do you even remember what the stock market was like during Obama?
 
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