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Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
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Have not gotten much into crypto tbh though I feel I may regret it in the future...

I just don't want to deal with the taxes or even know how to deal with them as all the legwork needs to be done manually.
 

dasherHampton

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Jan 19, 2018
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For a while now the XELA thing hasn't looked like it would turn into much. I even backed up the 2.5 puts with 1s.

And then, all of a sudden, today happened.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Didn't you hear? Bitcoin is the new Gold!

That said, I still like Coinbase stock better. It doesn't matter if crypto goes up OR down, they still make a fortune with their overpriced commissions.

I've bought and sold physical gold for years, trading about 37 ounces worth about $49,000 going back to 2015. My last buy/sell transaction was January 2020.

But after the pandemic, the premium over spot went batsh*t crazy. Thankfully the spread has been going down a tad. It used to be $50 and its about $120 as of today (over spot).

I've been watching "Aussie Gold Hunters" on Quest lately and with the rise in inflation and inspired by the show, I bought one Aussie Gold 'Roo today for $1920 - 2% cashback = $1881

 
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ponyo

Lifer
Feb 14, 2002
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Didn't you hear? Bitcoin is the new Gold!

That said, I still like Coinbase stock better. It doesn't matter if crypto goes up OR down, they still make a fortune with their overpriced commissions.
I'm very bullish on Coinbase. It's my second largest position after Tesla. I really like Brian Armstrong and how he has grown Coinbase. I believe they have unbelievable growth opportunities ahead of them and Brian is the right guy to lead the company. I think my Coinbase position will eventually turn into multi bagger and make me millions. I'm holding 1,500 shares of Coinbase and sold bunch of puts. I haven't sold any covered calls because I think Coinbase is going to explode up one of these days, and I don't want to lose my shares for cheap.
 

ponyo

Lifer
Feb 14, 2002
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Have not gotten much into crypto tbh though I feel I may regret it in the future...

I just don't want to deal with the taxes or even know how to deal with them as all the legwork needs to be done manually.
No taxes on crypto unless you sell and make profit. I haven't sold any of my Bitcoin, Ether, Cardano, or Dogecoin. I have no plans to sell, only to buy more on major dips. Crypto is my insurance against dumb politicians and stupid world governments. I think everyone needs to own some crypto just as a hedge. I thought that gold and silver was that hedge but I realize now that gold and silver is poor hedge because it's manipulated and controlled by banks and governments. I learned that lesson too late so I own too much gold and silver. Instead of dismissing crypto, I wish I had bought Bitcoin and Ether when I was buying my gold and silver. Live and learn. I'm going to keep my current gold and silver holdings, but I won't buy any more. I will only buy more crypto going forward.
 
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Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
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No taxes on crypto unless you sell and make profit. I haven't sold any of my Bitcoin, Ether, Cardano, or Dogecoin. I have no plans to sell, only to buy more on major dips. Crypto is my insurance against dumb politicians and stupid world governments. I think everyone needs to own some crypto just as a hedge. I thought that gold and silver was that hedge but I realize now that gold and silver is poor hedge because it's manipulated and controlled by banks and governments. I learned that lesson too late so I own too much gold and silver. Instead of dismissing crypto, I wish I had bought Bitcoin and Ether when I was buying my gold and silver. Live and learn. I'm going to keep my current gold and silver holdings, but I won't buy any more. I will only buy more crypto going forward.

Actually I think you're right, no taxes on buying, only on selling. If I do cash in at some point then I can try to deal with that at that point. Maybe tax accountants will be more familiar with crypto by then and be able to tell me what to do. The transactions remain public as part of the blockchain anyway.
 

dasherHampton

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lol I sold puts on KOLD thinking it was some sort of NG holding but its not. Its an ETF that shorts NG. I'm an idiot.

Luckily I went low - $3. And my total exposure isn't that bad, like $2000.
 

FelixDeCat

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I was buying the dips and selling the rips today on BKKT. But I would like to have a position in it.

For now I'm long 26.84 and have been shorting and buying back calls on the volatility.

I honestly don't know what this company is worth at this time however.
 
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FelixDeCat

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As of yesterday, the reported shares outstanding were 20 million which made a share price of $25 seem reasonable. Tonight the figures have been updated to show 50 million outstanding, which gives a market cap of $1b at $20, which is crazy.

If Yahoo figures are correct, the total float is 764 million! That would give a value of $16.9 billion dollars ?

All of sudden even $20 sounds rich, and Im in at $26.84.

The fair price might actually be $15 (??) for now.
 
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dasherHampton

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I sold as many options on renewables as I could. I tried to spread them around.

On the flip side - why in the hell are people selling EPD a day before the ex. div date?
 

dasherHampton

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Hey! - looks like I finally nailed one.

I sold a bunch of MQ puts at 20 and 22.5 when it was hovering under 25. Now they made a deal with bill.com and MQ is soaring.
 
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FelixDeCat

Lifer
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FelixDeCat

Lifer
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As of yesterday, the reported shares outstanding were 20 million which made a share price of $25 seem reasonable. Tonight the figures have been updated to show 50 million outstanding, which gives a market cap of $1b at $20, which is crazy.

If Yahoo figures are correct, the total float is 764 million! That would give a value of $16.9 billion dollars ?

All of sudden even $20 sounds rich, and Im in at $26.84.

The fair price might actually be $15 (??) for now.

Thank you Mr. Market for getting me out at $30....with a profit no less.

There are those who see BKKT at $80 one day. More power to them, but it ain't me.

That would give it a SOFI market cap. Granted, it already hit $53, however PIPE investors will be able to dump shares eventually. I still say $15 once all the shares are floating around.
 
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PlanetJosh

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For anyone a question about the 48 hours it takes for your sell trade to clear. It's not actually 48 hours is it? For years we've been buying back a stock a few hours before the 48 hours has expired in two business days. Assuming you don't have a pile of cash ready to immediately cover the buy.

So say you sell at 3 pm est and two days later you buy it back at 10 am est a full 5 hours before the 48 hours. I'm asking this about regular trades not day trading or margin trades.

Which leads me to my next question, are funds being "fronted" to you for that 5 hours or a few hours before the full 48 hours is up? Maybe "clears in 48 hours" is misnomer, not sure.

My net research says it clears fairly early in the morning of the 2nd business day. I'm just checking here on the forum to be sure that's the case in way over 99% of such trades. And if anyone has had a problem in the situation described above in buying back a stock in the morning at the open on the 2nd business day. Again this is if you don't keep extra money in your brokerage cash to buy back a lot earlier.
 
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Tweak155

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For anyone a question about the 48 hours it takes for your sell trade to clear. It's not actually 48 hours is it? For years we've been buying back a stock a few hours before the 48 hours has expired in two business days. Assuming you don't have a pile of cash ready to immediately cover the buy.

So say you sell at 3 pm est and two days later you buy it back at 10 am est a full 5 hours before the 48 hours. I'm asking this about regular trades not day trading or margin trades.

Which leads me to my next question, are funds being "fronted" to you for that 5 hours or a few hours before the full 48 hours is up? Maybe "clears in 48 hours" is misnomer, not sure.

My net research says it clears fairly early in the morning of the 2nd business day. I'm just checking here on the forum to be sure that's the case in way over 99% of such trades. And if anyone has had a problem in the situation described above in buying back a stock in the morning at the open on the 2nd business day. Again this is if you don't keep extra money in your brokerage cash to buy back a lot earlier.

My understanding is that this can actually vary based on your broker.

The 48hr period can start when you buy the stock, and not just when you sell it. When you sell it, if your funds settled to buy the shares in the first place, some brokers will forward you the cash from when you go to sell and it is not considered margin (they anticipate to receive the funds from the sale of the shares).

Regardless, it should be pretty clear in your account what cash you have available at any point in time. For my broker, it is referred to as "Cash & Sweep Vehicle"... this number contains all my settled cash available for purchase immediately, there should be no guessing needed when you go to purchase a new stock. You should also have separate lines that represent margin and the like.

TD Ameritrade used to forward the cash immediately if the buy side had already settled, but I don't think they do it anymore. It usually takes 2-3 biz days for the cash to appear for me after a sale even if it's not a day trade.
 

jpiniero

Lifer
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Ooh, Amazon and Apple missed. Both are currently down 3% AH.

Amazon's retail biz btw would have posted a loss. Costs skyrocketing.
 
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