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AdamK47

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
15,318
2,924
126
It is pumpkin spice latte season
The herd mentality surrounding ginger, cinnamon, allspice, and nutmeg this time of year is strong.

The clearance sections of Kroger will be overflowing with everything pumpkin spice in a couple of months.
 

AdamK47

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
15,318
2,924
126
Man, quite the flip of the switch.

Good earnings coming in after hours too.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
29,307
2,099
126
My lottery ticket is nwbo. If it hits im rich if not, meh.
I'll call your nwbo with my five $15 SAVA call options. Current price...$24.25.

When I buy calls to speculate (always small bets because you can lose your ass with options), I like to buy very deep in the money 6 month or longer term for liquidity and leverage. Buying near or over the strike means all the profit is usually already built in the price ($20 stock, $20 or $25 strike, etc). I don't buy those.

Let's say you can buy 200 shares of a company at $20 with $4000. But if you buy the $10 call at $10 each you have the leverage of 400 shares.

The trick is to pay just a whisker above cost and that's not easy the further out you go. There is always some idiot over bidding, screwing up the trade, so this "trick" doesn't work with all stocks.

If a stock is trading for $20 I won't pay more than $10.25 for the $10 call. This way when it hits $20.75 or more, I'm a seller at $11.

Lots of idiots will bid $11.20 for a $10 call when the stock is $20, effectively paying $21.20. Since these are long dated you still get leverage but that stock has to go over $21 before you start to profit.
 

cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
23,548
13,115
136
I'll call your nwbo with my five $15 SAVA call options. Current price...$24.25.

When I buy calls to speculate (always small bets because you can lose your ass with options), I like to buy very deep in the money 6 month or longer term for liquidity and leverage. Buying near or over the strike means all the profit is usually already built in the price ($20 stock, $20 or $25 strike, etc). I don't buy those.

Let's say you can buy 200 shares of a company at $20 with $4000. But if you buy the $10 call at $10 each you have the leverage of 400 shares.

The trick is to pay just a whisker above cost and that's not easy the further out you go. There is always some idiot over bidding, screwing up the trade, so this "trick" doesn't work with all stocks.

If a stock is trading for $20 I won't pay more than $10.25 for the $10 call. This way when it hits $20.75 or more, I'm a seller at $11.

Lots of idiots will bid $11.20 for a $10 call when the stock is $20, effectively paying $21.20. Since these are long dated you still get leverage but that stock has to go over $21 before you start to profit.
I aint got time for all that, day jobs and what not... Either nwbo is a cancer killer or its not. Spin the wheel.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
29,307
2,099
126
Aapl is turning out to be a lemon after hours. Stock falling. Probably closes higher tomorrow as dip buyers never fail to disappoint.
 

AdamK47

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
15,318
2,924
126
Market is loving the jobs numbers. Quite the reversal from last week when the S&P was in correction. Bought quite a bit last week. Should have bought more.

Woulda shoulda coulda
 
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FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
29,307
2,099
126
Current odds have dropped for a rate cut in May. I remain unconvinced that the pivot is going to happen so soon.
Even the words "rate cut" make me cringe. I want to see rates skyrocket to a 22% prime to bring about rapid deflation.
 

jpiniero

Lifer
Oct 1, 2010
14,841
5,456
136
Even the words "rate cut" make me cringe. I want to see rates skyrocket to a 22% prime to bring about rapid deflation.

US can't afford to keep rates high for long. And for sure can't afford 22%. Going back to zero is inevitable.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
29,307
2,099
126
US can't afford to keep rates high for long. And for sure can't afford 22%. Going back to zero is inevitable.
We got ourselves addicted to ZIRP which should have never been more than a short term solution, not a way of life for almost 14 years(2008-2022)! We also racked up $33 trillion dollars of debt by spending too much money and not having an adequate tax rate.

Sorry, ZIRP and neverending deficits and national debt that can never be repaid was an experiment that should not be repeated.
 
Nov 17, 2019
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Is WeBroke a victim of circumstances, bad timing or poor management? Seemed like a good idea to make spaces available where people are rather than making them commute.

I'm a little PoDunk town with some vacant retail space that could have been converted for people to get a desk and a computer.

Maybe people are just doing that at home now?

But can they do small gatherings if necessary?
 
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