**Official** 3rd Presidential Debate Thread

[Red Dawn]

CNN Poll on who won the debate and McCain got killed.

 

[Descartes]

CNN says Obama 58% to McCain 31% with the caveat that there were more dems in the sample.

 

[bdude]

Originally posted by: ZOOYUKA

Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
Overall one thing struck me about each candidate:
McCain - anger below the surface
Obama - cool and collected.

I would rather have a president who has control.

Wouldn't that signify control?

Not when it's so clearly coming out of his eyeballs.

 

[Chaotic42]

I thought that Obama came off a lot better than McCain did. I really don't like either's health plan, but McCain's seems worse. I wish the moderators would stop them from ranting until they answer the question they were asked.

 

[feelingshorter]

That was the best debate out of the 3.

McCain shouldn't of brought up Ayers. No one believes Obama is a terrorist. Does McCain think we are so stupid to believe Obama is some super villian? What Obama by day and Osama by night? Please. Ayers is a professor at a university that people have herd of. He was just a hippie back in the day thats all. But nooo. McCain had to touch the subject and wasted his whole time slot to talk about Ayers, and then Obama had to respond, wasting more time! Double time waster on a stupid topic!

The economy/education/energy/abortion/environment/vice pres/foreign policy discussion were all good. Ayers was such a waste of debate time. Could have used that time to talk about something else.

McCain isn't catering to college students who will vote in record numbers. We care more about issues than Fear Uncertainty and Doubt. With nov. 4 comming up, i think i know who i'm voting for now. That debate covered quite a bit of every topic/issue that affects us today. Although it does have its faults, its still good.

 

[OrByte]

I tried to give McCain his props for some well thought out responses.

But the way he sat there...are any of you guys Xmen comic readers?

Does the character "Mojo" mean anything to you guys?

McCain is like a cross between "Mojo" and that rich guy from the simpsons...the grumpy one.

Both McCain and Obama make sense for the most part...the problem is simply McCain doesn't look presidential next to Obama.

argue the superficiality of it all but imho I think that is why Obama runs away with these debates even though both candidates make good points more often than bad points.

my 02

 

[bctbct]

Whoa, Fox is ready to endorse Obama.

:thumbsup:

 

[GroundedSailor]

Originally posted by: ZOOYUKA

Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
Overall one thing struck me about each candidate:
McCain - anger below the surface
Obama - cool and collected.

I would rather have a president who has control.

Wouldn't that signify control?

Both candidates said things which should have angered the other. If control is a measure then Obama clearly showed hellova lot more than McCain.

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: bctbct
Whoa, Fox is ready to endorse Obama.

:thumbsup:

wait...what?!

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: bdude

Originally posted by: ZOOYUKA

Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
Overall one thing struck me about each candidate:
McCain - anger below the surface
Obama - cool and collected.

I would rather have a president who has control.

Wouldn't that signify control?

Not when it's so clearly coming out of his eyeballs.

Too many fumes from his sharpie.

 

[CptObvious]

McCain took up way too much time rambling on the rebuttals. It seemed like his strategy was to eat into Obama's time for responding.

 

[bctbct]

Originally posted by: loup garou

Originally posted by: bctbct
Whoa, Fox is ready to endorse Obama.

:thumbsup:

wait...what?!

the usual talking heads are agreeing that Obama is on track and McCain is/has lost.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Originally posted by: loup garou

Originally posted by: dbk
Holy shit...Luntz panel...none of them supported Obama coming and they all think Obama won.

Almost everyone on CBS's undecided panel now say they are leaning or committed to McCain. WTF were these people watching???

LOL well Frank Luntz is a republican pollster... so maybe that's why.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: bdude

Originally posted by: ZOOYUKA

Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
Overall one thing struck me about each candidate:
McCain - anger below the surface
Obama - cool and collected.

I would rather have a president who has control.

Wouldn't that signify control?

Not when it's so clearly coming out of his eyeballs.

He was doing that kind of crap the last 2/3 of the debate which made him seem like a petty little man.

 

[Descartes]

Originally posted by: OrByte
I tired to give McCain his props for some well thought out responses.

But the way he sat there...are any of you guys Xmen comic readers?

Does the character "Mojo" mean anything to you guys?

McCain is like a cross between "Mojo" and that rich guy from the simpsons...the grumpy one.

Both McCain and Obama make sense for the most part...the problem is simply McCain doesn't look presidential next to Obama.

argue the superficiality of it all but imho I think that is why Obama runs away with these debates even though both candidates make good points more often than bad points.

my 02

When considering a President, I don't consider that superficial at all. If anything, it's a significant issue. The President should convey strength, integrity and a sense of the power they command; to come off as McCain did suggests, to me, that he would likely be the same or worse in diplomatic situations. Undermining the integrity of a nation due to your own inability to control your anger is a severe detriment to his character as a leader.

That's my opinion. People criticize Obama for his words, his eloquence and his lack of offense; I think that's precisely the leader we need, not someone that thinks they're omniscient and condescends everyone into submission.

That's how I feel as of tonight. I think McCain was best in the first debate, pointing out the core philosophical differences that actually matter. This was a bitter display of serious character flaws.

 

[Ballatician]

I kind understand the superficiality argument and one thing about McCain I've noticed is he acts very robotic. I'm not knocking the guy for having his arms broken, I mean in the way he acts when entering or exiting a public event. I know he's been a senator for a long time but its almost like he has a formula, wave, thumbs up, point, thumbs up, wave. It just strikes me as fake when he's pointing to random people and most of the time he just rushes it and it looks weird.

In tonights debate, the same thing at the end. "Good job good job" - just a prepared remark, nothing genuine or real. I'm very happy that he finally decided to look at Obama when addressing him and actually contributed to a dialog. He seemed a lot more focused today.

 

[ranmaniac]

lol

 

[bctbct]

Fox just ended coverage

 

[techs]

Considering how many people didn't watch the debate, and the power of polls, the fact that Obama won the snap polls big time is a HUGE hit for him.
At this point its all about perception. And if Obama's win in the polls is held up in the upcoming polls in the next few days.......

we might know who will win the Presidency by one week from today, barring the unforseen.

 

[Ballatician]

Here's a question: What was McCain talking about when he starting defending the war vets and mothers that attend his rallies? I was very confused.

 

[owensdj]

Overall I thought Obama came across the way you want a President to look. He was always calm and respectful. On the other side, McCain looked like he was taking every opportunity to get in as many personal attacks on Obama as he could, even when what he was saying about Obama had nothing to do with the moderator's question. McCain also interrupted Obama several times. Obama never did that.

Ballatician, that was just another attempt at a personal smear on Obama. McCain was trying to make it seem like Obama was attacking the "war vets and mothers," which of course make no sense.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: loki8481
President Obama vs Some Old Guy from Arizona?

not the debates even matter, I probably won't even bother watching it... the past 3 debates, like every other recent presidential debates, have just been meaningless exchanges of press releases with each side claiming victory for their own candidate regardless of what actually happens.

was I right?

 

[Ninepepper]

Originally posted by: Ballatician
I kind understand the superficiality argument and one thing about McCain I've noticed is he acts very robotic. I'm not knocking the guy for having his arms broken, I mean in the way he acts when entering or exiting a public event. I know he's been a senator for a long time but its almost like he has a formula, wave, thumbs up, point, thumbs up, wave. It just strikes me as fake when he's pointing to random people and most of the time he just rushes it and it looks weird.

In tonights debate, the same thing at the end. "Good job good job" - just a prepared remark, nothing genuine or real. I'm very happy that he finally decided to look at Obama when addressing him and actually contributed to a dialog. He seemed a lot more focused today.

McCain must have been studying at the feet of Hillary because she did the same thing ever time. Although she would also point at a random person, smile big, nod her head and give a thumbs up

 

[badkarma1399]

After watching, I've come to the conclusion that all these debates are stupid. All the candidates and pundits talk about are meaningless things such who attacks the other more, who looks more leader like, blah blah blah. CNN's constant feed of viewer feedback looks like something out of a futuristic dystopian novel. If your view is at all moved by the contents of the debates, your probably too dumb to be voting IMO.

They should really let third party candidates in to at least one of these debates. The piece of the political spectrum that both the democrats and republicans share is way too narrow.

 

[Ballatician]

Originally posted by: Ninepepper

Originally posted by: Ballatician
I kind understand the superficiality argument and one thing about McCain I've noticed is he acts very robotic. I'm not knocking the guy for having his arms broken, I mean in the way he acts when entering or exiting a public event. I know he's been a senator for a long time but its almost like he has a formula, wave, thumbs up, point, thumbs up, wave. It just strikes me as fake when he's pointing to random people and most of the time he just rushes it and it looks weird.

In tonights debate, the same thing at the end. "Good job good job" - just a prepared remark, nothing genuine or real. I'm very happy that he finally decided to look at Obama when addressing him and actually contributed to a dialog. He seemed a lot more focused today.

McCain must have been studying at the feet of Hillary because she did the same thing ever time. Although she would also point at a random person, smile big, nod her head and give a thumbs up

Absolutely, I remember that with her as well. She may have been a little worse for me since she always seemed so hyped up.