**OFFICIAL** Abit BG7 (i845G) Thread

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MeCalvin

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Originally posted by: snoopyb0y
Originally posted by: MeCalvin
SnoopyBoy,
if you are happy with your current RAM speed, then you would play around with the Delays (writing and reading delays)

From what I can gather from the BIOS Survival Guide, these delays are only good for apps which
actually use them. But then who cares to find out which apps use them, for us, the lower these delays the
better.

So why not go ahead and set them all to 2/2/2/5 ?????

If you are happy at your RAM speed, then yep, go ahead and change them. But if you want to go higher
RAM speed, keep them at the defaults, as these are more stable settings. Once you are happy with your
RAM speed, then change these delays.

I've done it, changing these delays at a certain RAM speed and 3DMArk returns
the same score.

So cool that you can OC at 4:5. Now try 3:4. What HIGH setting does was give you 4:5. Not trying to spoil your
discovery or anything, but I would be surprise if keeping all else the same, if you cann't OC with 3:4 with H/W strap on LOW,
you will be able to OC at 3:4 with H/W Strap on HIGH.

4:5 give you lower RAM speed, and thus more stable. Try 3:4 and see what happens. Hope I'm wrong for your case.

I have XMS2700, rated at 2/2/2 and I know it can go to DDR400. BG7 is not giving it to me. Your 3200 should go higher and more stable
at DDR400.

Go team.


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MeCalvin i don't think i can set my Corsair XMS 3000C2 512mb (1 stick) timing to 2-2-2-5. In the Abit BG7 manual, lowest settings are 1.5-5-3-3 ( i think).
Do you own a BG7 board? Also if i set my H/W strap on LOW, there are not timing option for 3:4 That is only available on the HIGH setting. Again do
actually own a BG7 board? I don't have the 3200 i have the 3000 Cas 2 ddr ram. On the corsair site its spec to go up to 370mhz, and i like to reach a higher speed at Cas2.

Someone tell me this, what is faster: 1.8A @ 2.45mhz with 333mhz ram OR 2.0A @ 2.66mhz with 311mhz ram ?
I'm trying to find out if overall system performance is faster via CPU or faster ram....?

snoopyb0y
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My apology, you are right. 3:4 is avail at HIGH setting, not at low. I got it the other way around.
And yes, I have a BG7 from Compuplus running a 1.6A from NewEgg.

Re your question about the overall system perf, I have asked the same question. No one have answered it. But I've tested it myself with 3DMark. Download it yourself from MadOnion.com (I think) and try it out. It would give a score, not sure how the pros see it, but to me it is one score for the overall system. ANd I've found faster RAM is better than faster CPU.

My 2cents.
 

Labdog

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Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Hi guys,

First cobra, you're going to love the p4b533-v! I drove down to CDR Express (yes they are the same company as Memory Media) yesterday and picked up a P4B533-V from them. I just finished installing it today and right off the bat I booted up at 160 fsb (4:5 divider) with 1.625 volts and 2.7 vdimm with no problem. When I checked the voltages in the bios, the board was actually overvolting! I was pleasantly surprised to see this since the Abit's tend to undervolt. This board is loaded with features! I'll post more details later after I'm done installing the leaked UT2K3 So far this is by far the best 845G board and it is ROCK solid and it seems to be higher quality than the BG7. I guess you really DO get what you pay for.


btw, do you know the vCore, vDimm & vI/O ranges available of the Asus P4B533-V ?

thanks.
 

therudyq3

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Lizardman....uummm..i'm such a noob...my 3.3V line? i disable the monitor becasue the temp of the MB and cpu look ok...i'm running at 133fsb +5%, and DRAM volt is 2.5V...
under pc health status... I/O voltage (+3.3V) is 3.15V

does that make sense? at this setting my temp after running 1 cycle of 3dmark2001 is 53C for cpu and 29C for system1 temp (MB)

i may try to run at higher fsb but this high temp is bothering me..thx for ur help
 

Labdog

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Originally posted by: therudyq3
Lizardman....uummm..i'm such a noob...my 3.3V line? i disable the monitor becasue the temp of the MB and cpu look ok...i'm running at 133fsb +5%, and DRAM volt is 2.5V...
under pc health status... I/O voltage (+3.3V) is 3.15V

does that make sense? at this setting my temp after running 1 cycle of 3dmark2001 is 53C for cpu and 29C for system1 temp (MB)

i may try to run at higher fsb but this high temp is bothering me..thx for ur help

your PSU is too weak. your 3.3 line is under the specs. this could involve some issues.
 

therudyq3

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i had installed the MBM 5 progie and set the sensor 2 to windbond2...upon apllying it ...it gave me warning sound from the MB and then proceed to shut down the system...i noticed that a number 94 (i.e. 94C) for the sensor2...what is sensor 2?

anyway since the monitor progie on the cd is telling me that my MB temp is around 29C and cpu temp is under 60C...i uninstall MBM5 and only using the windbond prg on the cd right now...

please advise...tell me what to do...
thanks ...i know it must be frustrating to talk to a somewhat newbie sometimes...lol...this is not my first system
 

therudyq3

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Labdog...my PSU is too weak?...what will that do ? what consequences?...i won't be able to OC much higher? does this explain the high temp i'm getting?...uumm makes no sense...

on the previous MB ..the asus p4s533...i was able to run it at 2.7 at 1.65V...it ran 10 cycles of 3dmark2001 and a couple hour of quake3 online...the temp reported thru asus pc probe program was around 47C...but here my idle temp is higher than that
 

therudyq3

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ummm i just set up 2 cycles of 3dmark2001...running at:
145 fsb X 18
pci lock at 33Mzh
4:5 ratio
+5% cpu core voltage
DRAM volt 2.5V

and during 3dmark2001 test (only 2 cycles) i heard a beep...but it kept on going...then..it stop running displaying this similar message:

"Reliable benchmark can not be tested....3dmark window lost focus"

cpu temp was around 56C...

man I'm concerning about this high tempature reading

 

Labdog

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Originally posted by: therudyq3
Labdog...my PSU is too weak?...what will that do ? what consequences?...i won't be able to OC much higher? does this explain the high temp i'm getting?...uumm makes no sense...

on the previous MB ..the asus p4s533...i was able to run it at 2.7 at 1.65V...it ran 10 cycles of 3dmark2001 and a couple hour of quake3 online...the temp reported thru asus pc probe program was around 47C...but here my idle temp is higher than that

i have a 3.3 line of 3.54v under MBM5.
 

therudyq3

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Well i reran the testr again...this time i disable the windbond program that came on the CD
ummm i just set up 2 cycles of 3dmark2001...running at:
I increased the DRAM from 2.5V to 2.6V

145 fsb X 18
pci lock at 33Mzh
4:5 ratio
+5% cpu core voltage
DRAM volt 2.6V

i heard several beeps during the 2 cycles of 3dmark2001...but it got thru...right after that i chk the cpu temp from the windbond hardware doctor program...cpu temp was 56C and MB was 28C

In my BIOs I have the CPU shutdown temp set at 65C
and the cpu warning temp set at 63C

what were those freaking beep sound? I don't think the temp got to 63C
 

Lizardman

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Hey rudy enable PM in your profile. (Upper right corner of screen) What does MBM or winbond chip report as your 3.3v line.
 

therudyq3

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Thx for heping Lizardman....i just enabled pm in my profile...i'm on msn ...pm too as therudyq3@hotmail.com

anyway...

it's around 3.15V in sisandra 2000

in windbond hardware doctor version 2.7

vcore is 1.54...cool
ddr 2.48
vio 3.18

i'm still very concerned about the temp...idle at 48.5C
 

therudyq3

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I guess I just have one question ...I notice that Typung also has the same high tempature reading like mine....

what is more damaging to your system? high vcore or high tempature?...isn't high vcore leads to high temp? a vcore on the BG7 should equate to same temp on another MB? therefore it may be the sensor that reports false tempature reading?

my vcore is only around 1.53V but the cpu temp at idle is 48 to 50C depends on the room temp
 

Lizardman

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A higher vcore is much more dangerous than a high temp. What is your room temp. And i know you said this before but what are your load temps.
 

therudyq3

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under load it's right around 60C...my MB temp is around 28C...while my room temp is around 78F not celcius....lol

on my previous MB the asus p4s533..the temp was around 10 to 12 degrees lower...

what do u think of my 3.3 coming in at 3.15V? could this be the cause why my radeon only finish 1 test of the 3dmark2001 with the latest ati driver and intel chip set drivers?

should I rma this board? some amd system doesn't even run this hot
 

render

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That's normal. Nothing to worry about it.

My temps here:

Idle: 42-45 C
Load: 55-59 C

 

therudyq3

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"That's normal. Nothing to worry about it."

only problem is...when I set the fsb at 150 and +10% vcore....4:5 ratios...it booted fine

but when i was trying to run 3dmark2001 to test it...it beeps and shut doen...i had the shut down tempature at 65C

so with this high temp i can't go to 150fsb..

i have 4 sunon case fan, as3 and opened up the case and stuck a house fan on the side.....my Mb temp is 28C

there must be something wrong here...cause i can't risk it...at the same time i want to be able to OC higher
 

snoopyb0y

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Originally posted by: Labdog
Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Hi guys,

First cobra, you're going to love the p4b533-v! I drove down to CDR Express (yes they are the same company as Memory Media) yesterday and picked up a P4B533-V from them. I just finished installing it today and right off the bat I booted up at 160 fsb (4:5 divider) with 1.625 volts and 2.7 vdimm with no problem. When I checked the voltages in the bios, the board was actually overvolting! I was pleasantly surprised to see this since the Abit's tend to undervolt. This board is loaded with features! I'll post more details later after I'm done installing the leaked UT2K3 So far this is by far the best 845G board and it is ROCK solid and it seems to be higher quality than the BG7. I guess you really DO get what you pay for.


btw, do you know the vCore, vDimm & vI/O ranges available of the Asus P4B533-V ?

thanks.

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Now i wonder if i should have spent the extra cash and bought an Asus P4B533-V board instead..?!

Who has tried both or know someone with Asus compared to our BG7? I want to know which better and by how much


snoopyb0y
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Labdog

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both boards are good. simply the Asus have much more options. thus it depends of your needs not the motherboard itself. do you need the features supplied by the Asus?!?
 

therudyq3

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well i just turned my system on this morning...and the windows xp logo came on...then it won't boot into win...nor will it boot into dos via floppy...
so i clear the cmos and reset to default...then reboot..and it sayd"cpu not workable or softmenu not correct" or something to the effect....i clear the cmos and reset to default again and reboot and it gave me a check sum error...then clear cmos again and reboot and it said "cpu not workable or soft menu not correct" etc..

i never OC this to xtreme...only using 1.54V temp runs at max 60C and the shut down temp is set at 65C in bios...

all were working last nite until now this morning after i woke...

is my cpu fried or my MB just not working anymore?
 

snoopyb0y

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Originally posted by: Labdog
both boards are good. simply the Asus have much more options. thus it depends of your needs not the motherboard itself. do you need the features supplied by the Asus?!?


Labdog, what features do Asus owners get that we BG7 owners dont? I mostly want overclocking features


Yes, i have noticed our abit bg7 board does unvolt a bit, should i +5% to my cpu to make it up?
 

render

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therudyq3,

Tell us your components.

You have to pinpoint your problem before you rma your board.

It may not be the board that causes the problem.


 
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