Originally posted by: kevman
Originally posted by: thatsright
Originally posted by: kevman
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Well of course its very easy for ME to say you should wait, as I don?t have a box on my door with a New PC inside somewhere. But yet again, I would say to wait and get the faster ram. If you try to OC the PC3000, you may only be able to go so far, and never hit the PC3200 Level. But of course I could be wrong. Though, if you stick with the PC3000, and you want to OC later on, you will be limited in how high you can get the FSB for the CPU to run at, cause it all depends on how high & stable you can O'C the Ram. And if you do this, you would want to OC the ram a bit, and starting out at least at the PC3200 level, and then O?Cing from there is your best bet. What abut using a Cross-shipment option where they could send you the ram today and perhaps even overnight it to you if you want to pay the extra $$ for delivery? Can't remember if they do offer a cross-ship option. I got my new pc parts delivered 5 weeks ago today, and I still had to wait about 3 days before I could actually turn the thing on. So I do understand you desire to get that thing running as soon as you can, but I would just bite the bullet and get the PC3200 ram. You will be doing your self a big favor for many different reasons.
Let us/me know how it goes.
great input. It has me leaning toward RMA'ing for something else. For cross ship, they pretty much said that I could get an RMA today and order something else today so that's the only option that is there. but looking at the other memory modules I get into more confusion, becase although my memory is rated lower bandwidth, it has excellent timings. The pc3200/3500 doesn't have as good timings but it has the bandwidth. What am I better off with in the DCDDR world? I just don't know. But I think regardless of that answer I'm going to be patient and somewhat restrained and RMA the PC3000 for something with better bandwidth.
Kevin
Well just to give you an idea, I have the HyperX PC3500 2X512MB. And what I'm surprised by is that I was able to successfully run my ram at 2-2-2-5, which are the 'tightest' timings you can get for any ram I think. I am still surprised I have been able to run it at this speed since its rated for 2-3-3-7, and I can noticeably tell the big improvement even over the previous timings I had running at 2-3-2-6. But to do this, I had to increase the Vdimm to 2.8 that is the max allowable for the HyperX PC3500. And all of this is while I'm running my Retail 2.4c O'Ced to 3060Mhz with a Zalman 7000AlCu HSF. I tried to get the CPU MHz to go higher and I was able to, but I would of had to run the ram at 'loose timings' like its rated speed. But I'd rather have the tightest timings possible for the ram, and a little less overclock of the CPU. I can really tell the difference with the tighter timings, and I to me the extra CPU MHz overclock isn't worth the slower RAM timings. Besides, once you get up past 3Ghz, it's debatable whether you see any real world performance (at least that?s what I keep telling my self
In short, while RAM manufactures sell their ram with higher timings, they?re just doing this to be on the safe side. Like I said, if you really want to get down there with tight timings, you will probably need to up the Vdimm a bit. Of course as with any O'Cing, YMMV. If you?re looking at PC3200 go with the HyperX, or even some Corsair LL series. You can?t go wrong with either. (Man, I am so glad I bought my parts when I did, as the HyperX I got 5 weeks ago has already gone up about $25 a stick! Of course that doesn't add anything to this, or help ya; I'm just glad I bought in before RAM prices started to shoot back up again.)
Also get the latest IC7 Bios, and the new Intel IAA drivers for your raid setup.
Good luck once again, and keep us updated