*** Official ABIT IS7/G/E (865PE) Thread ***

[Tom]

You mean those memory modules do work with the 3:2 and 1:1 ratios but don't work with 5:4 ?

If so that seems wierd.

 

[jhites]

Originally posted by: orion7144
Well as I stated already I too have an ASUS board as well as the IS7 and IC7 and the memory that did not work with the 5:4 divider in one did not work with it in another. Everything was consistant. Those memory sticks that did not work with the divider did work with the 5:4 divider on an 845 chipset no problem. Shoot the one's that did not work on the Asus or Abit boards would not even run 5:4 at 200FSB and they were PC3700 sticks and well underclocked.

Orion - I don't question what your finding are in reference to the memory modules. I know that there have been many reports of problems with certain memory chips on these boards, especially Corsair LL. I am running the 5:4 divider on all four of my boards with the memory mentioned and they are all Winbond BH5 chips except for the TwinMos 3700 that is their 4.5ns stuff. Maybe the memory we get down here in Austin is better than that Denton stuff.

 

[orion7144]

Originally posted by: jhites

Originally posted by: orion7144
Well as I stated already I too have an ASUS board as well as the IS7 and IC7 and the memory that did not work with the 5:4 divider in one did not work with it in another. Everything was consistant. Those memory sticks that did not work with the divider did work with the 5:4 divider on an 845 chipset no problem. Shoot the one's that did not work on the Asus or Abit boards would not even run 5:4 at 200FSB and they were PC3700 sticks and well underclocked.

Orion - I don't question what your finding are in reference to the memory modules. I know that there have been many reports of problems with certain memory chips on these boards, especially Corsair LL. I am running the 5:4 divider on all four of my boards with the memory mentioned and they are all Winbond BH5 chips except for the TwinMos 3700 that is their 4.5ns stuff. Maybe the memory we get down here in Austin is better than that Denton stuff.

Are you using the 5:4 at CPU SPD or PSB800?

 

[jhites]

Are you using the 5:4 at CPU SPD or PSB800?

Strap is set to By CPU

 

[computer]

Hi all, I sent an email to OCZ memory asking them about their "Motherboard qualification guide" posted at their site and why the IS7 & G was not listed. Here's his reply:

The IS7 motherboard has some issues when you run CPU frequency
and memory frequency in async mode. Other than that, you can use our
PC3200, PC3500 and PC3700 memory without any problems.

It happens to both IS7 and IS-G. It's board level problem so
it's not just OCZ memory has this problem. Other memory fails to work
in async mode at more than 250 FSB on this board either.

I was about to get an IS7 or G. Can anyone vouch for this...is this really happening to any of you that use these boards? I'm rather shocked to see this since I have yet to see anything but a GLOWING review for these boards.

(BTW, these people from OCZ have absolutely the greatest support I've ever seen of any memory manufacturer, probably any manufacturer period!)
Thanks.

 

[Tom]

I run at 280fsb with 3:2 mem ratio all the time with my IS7.

 

[Nucleas]

Hi

I tried this setting, seems work but little hot on CPU(P42.4B)

CPU/AGP/PCI 150/66/33
New speed 2.7GHz
NB strap 667
DRAM ratio 1:1
DRAM timing 2.5-7-3-3
F1

Sys temp 45 degrees
CPU temp 62 (ori HSF, gonna replace to Zalman?)
cpu fan 3668
NB fan 6026
CPU core 1.6V

I play Fifa 2003 for 3 hours, it still smooth, just the CPU temp shows it is hot. I'm only use Kingston 512 PC2700. I thought u guys say it's impossible...?confuse here.

Heard BIOS 15 is ready...true?

Give me some comment, especially Orion...

 

[orion7144]

Originally posted by: Nucleas
Hi

I tried this setting, seems work but little hot on CPU(P42.4B)

CPU/AGP/PCI 150/66/33
New speed 2.7GHz
NB strap 667
DRAM ratio 1:1
DRAM timing 2.5-7-3-3
F1

Sys temp 45 degrees
CPU temp 62 (ori HSF, gonna replace to Zalman?)
cpu fan 3668
NB fan 6026
CPU core 1.6V

I play Fifa 2003 for 3 hours, it still smooth, just the CPU temp shows it is hot. I'm only use Kingston 512 PC2700. I thought u guys say it's impossible...?confuse here.

Heard BIOS 15 is ready...true?

Give me some comment, especially Orion...

I wish we could run F1 with the 2.4C's. BIOS 15 is available for download. If 62 is IDLE than I would worry but if that is your temp under load for a couple hours I wouldn't worry. What do you have your Vcore set at and what kind of memory?

 

[computer]

Monty Python Are you saying that you ARE running your IS7 at the settings where the tech said there were problems?

Orion, now are you saying that on an IS7x you CANNOT run an 800mhz FSB P4 2.4ghz at the F1 settings???????

At another thread I just saw that BIOS v15 is good.

 

[computer]

Say, I was just glancing at the IS7 pdf manual, and why doesn't the IS7 manual make any mention about any F1 settings? What's the deal with that, is that some kind of "secret key"? Does the print manual mention the F1 key and it's usage in the BIOS?

 

[orion7144]

Originally posted by: computer
Say, I was just glancing at the IS7 pdf manual, and why doesn't the IS7 manual make any mention about any F1 settings? What's the deal with that, is that some kind of "secret key"? Does the print manual mention the F1 key and it's usage in the BIOS?

Because it is for GAT witch is ABIT's way of enabling PAT on the 865 chipset so they can't call it PAT. I have not seen anyone that has got F1 to work on the IS7. Someone maybe but I havn't seen it.

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by: computer
Monty Python Are you saying that you ARE running your IS7 at the settings where the tech said there were problems?

Who is "the tech" ?

I've been running for months using the 3:2 ratio at 280fsb, memtest and prime95 stable, using pc2700 memory. I have all the GAT settings on auto and use psb800 bootstrap.

 

[RaymondY]

I have got my IS7 working with GAT = F1 (Memory timing is 2-3-3-7) with Command per Clock = Disabled. Working with BIOS 15 with 2-512mb Corsair XMS3200LL-PLT and a P4 2.6C

I am currently running at the default FSB (FSB = 800mhz) as I find that 2.6ghz is fast enough for me. My system is 100% stable and has been tested with Prime95 for 24+ hours

 

[bupkus]

I've just read the first 5 pages of this thread and just jumped to page 19 here. I have the IS7 still in the box and I'm about to build it this evening with a P4C2.4. I'm getting the feeling that now folks aren't getting the PAT to work for them. Should I consider returning this mobo for an ASUS? Can I still expect to get this up to over 3GHz as I had told the person I'm building it for?

 

[jhites]

Originally posted by: bupkus
I've just read the first 5 pages of this thread and just jumped to page 19 here. I have the IS7 still in the box and I'm about to build it this evening with a P4C2.4. I'm getting the feeling that now folks aren't getting the PAT to work for them. Should I consider returning this mobo for an ASUS? Can I still expect to get this up to over 3GHz as I had told the person I'm building it for?

If you really want to get PAT, you should get a i875 board.

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by: bupkus
I've just read the first 5 pages of this thread and just jumped to page 19 here. I have the IS7 still in the box and I'm about to build it this evening with a P4C2.4. I'm getting the feeling that now folks aren't getting the PAT to work for them. Should I consider returning this mobo for an ASUS? Can I still expect to get this up to over 3GHz as I had told the person I'm building it for?

Don't know where you're getting your feelings about the IS7, but PAT doesn't have anything to do with getting a 2.4c to 3.0g anyway. If anything, PAT that isn't user controlled, like on a Canterwood, would tend to make overclocking harder, not easier, although that's more theoritical than an actual problem.

 

[bupkus]

Don't know where you're getting your feelings about the IS7, but PAT doesn't have anything to do with getting a 2.4c to 3.0g anyway. If anything, PAT that isn't user controlled, like on a Canterwood, would tend to make overclocking harder, not easier, although that's more theoritical than an actual problem.

So I'll basically ignore PAT activation and go for the more reliable, impressive 3GHz+. The owner will be happier this way.
I just hope I don't activate it by mistake. However, considering the additional cost of the ASUS Springdale that has PAT activated it wouldn't cost much more to get a Canterwood board. Yes?

 

[Tom]

The Abit springdale has the same ability PAT-wise as the Asus springdale, in fact it probably has even more PAT options, although it's fairly mysterious figuring out which settings do what..

But like Jhites said, if you care about PAT, might as well spend $20 more than the IS7 and get the IC7. Only other thing is the IC7 doesn't come with LAN.

 

[Nucleas]

"I wish we could run F1 with the 2.4C's. BIOS 15 is available for download. If 62 is IDLE than I would worry but if that is your temp under load for a couple hours I wouldn't worry. What do you have your Vcore set at and what kind of memory? "

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Orion,

thanks, fast reply.

I also wondering how I could run F1 with 2.4B, using BIOS 14. Is V core u r refering to=CPU core? If yes, I'm running only 1.6V. Look back at my setting.

I got the BIOS 15. Any good with this one, since I could OC to 2.7GHz with those setting? Scared might over-OC, then my baby burn ...

 

[orion7144]

Originally posted by: Nucleas
"I wish we could run F1 with the 2.4C's. BIOS 15 is available for download. If 62 is IDLE than I would worry but if that is your temp under load for a couple hours I wouldn't worry. What do you have your Vcore set at and what kind of memory? "

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Orion,

thanks, fast reply.

I also wondering how I could run F1 with 2.4B, using BIOS 14. Is V core u r refering to=CPU core? If yes, I'm running only 1.6V. Look back at my setting.

I got the BIOS 15. Any good with this one, since I could OC to 2.7GHz with those setting? Scared might over-OC, then my baby burn ...

You are able to use F1 because your FSB is alot lower than the P4C's. 2.7 is not going to kill your CPU it's the Voltage that will. Just stay below 1.7 on the P4B's

 

[bupkus]

Well, I'm on the IS7 right now and not a single burp in the post assembly install of WinXP. Of course I'm running completely at default settings but it's very stable so far.
I'll begin the process of overclocking pretty soon. What would you recommend as I stretch the performance perimeter?

Oops, I lied, the device manage declares the usb isn't configured. What's that about? The only usb drivers on the Abit website are for W98/Me.

 

[jhites]

Originally posted by: bupkus
Well, I'm on the IS7 right now and not a single burp in the post assembly install of WinXP. Of course I'm running completely at default settings but it's very stable so far.
I'll begin the process of overclocking pretty soon. What would you recommend as I stretch the performance perimeter?

Oops, I lied, the device manage declares the usb isn't configured. What's that about? The only usb drivers on the Abit website are for W98/Me.

Did you load WinXP, Chipset Inf 2.11.15.0, WinXP updates and then drivers for Lan, Sound, Video in that order?

 

[bupkus]

Originally posted by: jhites

Originally posted by: bupkus
Well, I'm on the IS7 right now and not a single burp in the post assembly install of WinXP. Of course I'm running completely at default settings but it's very stable so far.
I'll begin the process of overclocking pretty soon. What would you recommend as I stretch the performance perimeter?

Oops, I lied, the device manage declares the usb isn't configured. What's that about? The only usb drivers on the Abit website are for W98/Me.

Did you load WinXP, Chipset Inf 2.11.15.0, WinXP updates and then drivers for Lan, Sound, Video in that order?

First XP, then I used the cd that came with the IS7 (Driver version 5.00.1012), then audio, LAN, then all the "Update Windows" files, in that order.
I haven't tried USB yet so I can't disprove the Device Manager.

 

[Tom]

After you install the windows upate service pack one you need to reinstall the usb driver on thr IS7 utility disk. I was able to do it by asking Windows to look for an updated driver and Windows found it automatically.

 

[Tom]

As far as ocverclocking, I like to find out what the cpu can do first, so I use the

3:2 memory ratio
easy memory settings like 2.5,7,3,3.
All of the GAT settings on auto or disabled.
lock the agp/pci bus at 66/33
start with default vcore
bump memory voltage to 2.8
bootstrap psb800

then start increasing the fsb. If you reach a point where it's unstable increase vcore one step at a time, up to a max of 1.65, but hopefully you will reach 250-275fsb before you need that much vcore.

Then once you're happy with the cpu speed, figure out how good your memory is and use the best combination of memory ratio, and other settings to maximize memory performance. Don't be surprised if you can't use the GAT settings if your FSB is very high, although some people are able to. Remember that even if you could use them it wouldn't make much difference.