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saechaka

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IS7 OWNERS. DOES THIS MOTHERBOARD SUPPORT 48 BIT ADDRESSING. I JUST A 200GIGER AND NEED TO KNOW BEFORE I OPEN THIS PRODUCT. THANK YOU AND I WILL NOW GO BACK TO LOWER CASE. thank you
 

mastertech01

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Im having serious issues with the IS7-E I just bought off the forsale forums. I cant overclock even one MHZ using Kingston HyperX PC3500.

First off ever since getting it, no matter what it posts the the processor setting is unusable. Sure you can get rid of that by checking off stop on NO errors, but that is only masking the problem. And no matter what it wont let me change ram settings from the SPD or OC in any manner and still boot up... if anything it just resets everything to default 2.8GHZ, 200/200 everytime..

What I finally realized today is that the CORE voltage readings, either in BIOS, MBM5, CPUZ or Hardware Doctor ALWAYS shows about 1.44-1.49V. Even if I set it up for 1.90V! I let it run for half the day at 1.90V, which should have cooked the processor or at least made it run VERY HOT, but it was running a cool 42C when I got home.

I have a new Antec 550W True Control PSU and a dual redundant 420 PSU and still no change.

What the HELL?
 

SeraphsSati

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I need some help with this IS7.

I'm planning on purchasing a 2.6c 800, I need to know what is the best 256mb ram to use in dual channel? I'm not planning to overclock at all. Thanks
 

orion7144

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Originally posted by: mastertech01
Im having serious issues with the IS7-E I just bought off the forsale forums. I cant overclock even one MHZ using Kingston HyperX PC3500.

First off ever since getting it, no matter what it posts the the processor setting is unusable. Sure you can get rid of that by checking off stop on NO errors, but that is only masking the problem. And no matter what it wont let me change ram settings from the SPD or OC in any manner and still boot up... if anything it just resets everything to default 2.8GHZ, 200/200 everytime..

What I finally realized today is that the CORE voltage readings, either in BIOS, MBM5, CPUZ or Hardware Doctor ALWAYS shows about 1.44-1.49V. Even if I set it up for 1.90V! I let it run for half the day at 1.90V, which should have cooked the processor or at least made it run VERY HOT, but it was running a cool 42C when I got home.

I have a new Antec 550W True Control PSU and a dual redundant 420 PSU and still no change.

What the HELL?

Sounds like the voltage redulator may be bad if you are reading a constant voltage. Has the board been updated to the newest BIOS? Do you know if it has the new style NB HSF? If not you can describe it and I can tell. Also have you tried the Abit sites forums?

Also the HyperX has been know to not like to OC on the 865/875 boards.
 

mastertech01

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Originally posted by: orion7144
Originally posted by: mastertech01
Im having serious issues with the IS7-E I just bought off the forsale forums. I cant overclock even one MHZ using Kingston HyperX PC3500.

First off ever since getting it, no matter what it posts the the processor setting is unusable. Sure you can get rid of that by checking off stop on NO errors, but that is only masking the problem. And no matter what it wont let me change ram settings from the SPD or OC in any manner and still boot up... if anything it just resets everything to default 2.8GHZ, 200/200 everytime..

What I finally realized today is that the CORE voltage readings, either in BIOS, MBM5, CPUZ or Hardware Doctor ALWAYS shows about 1.44-1.49V. Even if I set it up for 1.90V! I let it run for half the day at 1.90V, which should have cooked the processor or at least made it run VERY HOT, but it was running a cool 42C when I got home.

I have a new Antec 550W True Control PSU and a dual redundant 420 PSU and still no change.

What the HELL?

Sounds like the voltage redulator may be bad if you are reading a constant voltage. Has the board been updated to the newest BIOS? Do you know if it has the new style NB HSF? If not you can describe it and I can tell. Also have you tried the Abit sites forums?

Also the HyperX has been know to not like to OC on the 865/875 boards.


Well crap, I thought reading thru these threads that the HyperX was OK for this board. Man I have had nothing but trouble with P4 2.8C processors, on both this and ASUS boards, with this ram and Mushkin. Ive litterally tried 500.00 worth of used hardware and still dont have a completely working setup exept at default on this board. The SPD reads 2.5,8,3,3 on this board, but read 2,6,2,2 on the Epox I was using. Sigh...

To answer your questions it has bios version 17, the heatsink fan is green with a round plastic housing that has 4 nodes protruding around its perimeter. Ive tried the Abit forums and tried dozens of different things. I wonder if a bad processor can prevent the voltage from changing? Both of these I have tried were Compaq pulls bought off the forum from the same seller. Maybe thats my whole problem, everything I buy is used from this forum and I just dont know what is good or bad in the whole damned lot.
 

orion7144

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Originally posted by: mastertech01
Originally posted by: orion7144
Originally posted by: mastertech01
Im having serious issues with the IS7-E I just bought off the forsale forums. I cant overclock even one MHZ using Kingston HyperX PC3500.

First off ever since getting it, no matter what it posts the the processor setting is unusable. Sure you can get rid of that by checking off stop on NO errors, but that is only masking the problem. And no matter what it wont let me change ram settings from the SPD or OC in any manner and still boot up... if anything it just resets everything to default 2.8GHZ, 200/200 everytime..

What I finally realized today is that the CORE voltage readings, either in BIOS, MBM5, CPUZ or Hardware Doctor ALWAYS shows about 1.44-1.49V. Even if I set it up for 1.90V! I let it run for half the day at 1.90V, which should have cooked the processor or at least made it run VERY HOT, but it was running a cool 42C when I got home.

I have a new Antec 550W True Control PSU and a dual redundant 420 PSU and still no change.

What the HELL?

Sounds like the voltage redulator may be bad if you are reading a constant voltage. Has the board been updated to the newest BIOS? Do you know if it has the new style NB HSF? If not you can describe it and I can tell. Also have you tried the Abit sites forums?

Also the HyperX has been know to not like to OC on the 865/875 boards.


Well crap, I thought reading thru these threads that the HyperX was OK for this board. Man I have had nothing but trouble with P4 2.8C processors, on both this and ASUS boards, with this ram and Mushkin. Ive litterally tried 500.00 worth of used hardware and still dont have a completely working setup exept at default on this board. The SPD reads 2.5,8,3,3 on this board, but read 2,6,2,2 on the Epox I was using. Sigh...

To answer your questions it has bios version 17, the heatsink fan is green with a round plastic housing that has 4 nodes protruding around its perimeter. Ive tried the Abit forums and tried dozens of different things. I wonder if a bad processor can prevent the voltage from changing? Both of these I have tried were Compaq pulls bought off the forum from the same seller. Maybe thats my whole problem, everything I buy is used from this forum and I just dont know what is good or bad in the whole damned lot.

That NB cooler is the original version (Early production)... My suggestion (You may not like it) is to get a 2.4C and throw it in that board and see what happens. If the seller has the original reciept for the MB an RMA may be in order as well. I would also contact the seller as well (Did they have goo heat). One of the things you have is defective (obviously) and it it pointing to the CPU. The mushkin should work ok as well as the Kingston however with the kingston you may run into problems when using the multipliers, it all depends on whether or not they have the BH or CH ships on them.

If you would like a second opinion on the processor I have 4 PC's running 2.4C's you can send it my way and I can test it for you..

 

mastertech01

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Originally posted by: orion7144
Originally posted by: mastertech01
Originally posted by: orion7144
Originally posted by: mastertech01
Im having serious issues with the IS7-E I just bought off the forsale forums. I cant overclock even one MHZ using Kingston HyperX PC3500.

First off ever since getting it, no matter what it posts the the processor setting is unusable. Sure you can get rid of that by checking off stop on NO errors, but that is only masking the problem. And no matter what it wont let me change ram settings from the SPD or OC in any manner and still boot up... if anything it just resets everything to default 2.8GHZ, 200/200 everytime..

What I finally realized today is that the CORE voltage readings, either in BIOS, MBM5, CPUZ or Hardware Doctor ALWAYS shows about 1.44-1.49V. Even if I set it up for 1.90V! I let it run for half the day at 1.90V, which should have cooked the processor or at least made it run VERY HOT, but it was running a cool 42C when I got home.

I have a new Antec 550W True Control PSU and a dual redundant 420 PSU and still no change.

What the HELL?

Sounds like the voltage redulator may be bad if you are reading a constant voltage. Has the board been updated to the newest BIOS? Do you know if it has the new style NB HSF? If not you can describe it and I can tell. Also have you tried the Abit sites forums?

Also the HyperX has been know to not like to OC on the 865/875 boards.


Well crap, I thought reading thru these threads that the HyperX was OK for this board. Man I have had nothing but trouble with P4 2.8C processors, on both this and ASUS boards, with this ram and Mushkin. Ive litterally tried 500.00 worth of used hardware and still dont have a completely working setup exept at default on this board. The SPD reads 2.5,8,3,3 on this board, but read 2,6,2,2 on the Epox I was using. Sigh...

To answer your questions it has bios version 17, the heatsink fan is green with a round plastic housing that has 4 nodes protruding around its perimeter. Ive tried the Abit forums and tried dozens of different things. I wonder if a bad processor can prevent the voltage from changing? Both of these I have tried were Compaq pulls bought off the forum from the same seller. Maybe thats my whole problem, everything I buy is used from this forum and I just dont know what is good or bad in the whole damned lot.

That NB cooler is the original version (Early production)... My suggestion (You may not like it) is to get a 2.4C and throw it in that board and see what happens. If the seller has the original reciept for the MB an RMA may be in order as well. I would also contact the seller as well (Did they have goo heat). One of the things you have is defective (obviously) and it it pointing to the CPU. The mushkin should work ok as well as the Kingston however with the kingston you may run into problems when using the multipliers, it all depends on whether or not they have the BH or CH ships on them.

If you would like a second opinion on the processor I have 4 PC's running 2.4C's you can send it my way and I can test it for you..


Processor is definitely my next item to replace since it seems I have had problems on every board with even the best ram, Mushkin. So I will aquire a new processor soon and if you dont mind I will send this one to you for testing. It will run default but nothing else, and if it is the cause of the voltage problem then the best thing I can do with it is run it at default and build a box for my daughter. Im getting to my wits end just to try to get ONE performance system working right for the past 3 months and Ive replaced everything at least once. Good grief.
 

bwanaaa

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To all of you who have successfully updated your bios, what did it do for you?

I am at v 1.3 Running 2.4c at 3ghz. 250 fsb, 512 m ram, corsair xms 3200 ll 2.5,3,3,7@ 5:4


Is the boot fasater? better o/c ? stabler?

I wonder if it's worth the trouble?

Tnx.
 

orion7144

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Originally posted by: bwanaaa
To all of you who have successfully updated your bios, what did it do for you?

I am at v 1.3 Running 2.4c at 3ghz. 250 fsb, 512 m ram, corsair xms 3200 ll 2.5,3,3,7@ 5:4


Is the boot fasater? better o/c ? stabler?

I wonder if it's worth the trouble?

Tnx.

It is worth the trouble to goto the latests since you are so far behind.

 

orion7144

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Originally posted by: Urinal Mint
OK, who can look at this error code pic and tell me what the hell is wrong? When I boot, sometimes it'll spit this thing out after the POST, and other times it'll go to the 2second long beep without any POST.

Click on this sucker to see what I mean

I'd post that on the Abit forums.

In all my years as a system builder i have never seen a Trap error.
 

Tullphan

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What's a good replacement for a noisy newer version northbridge cooler? Something easily installed, please? hehe
 

orion7144

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Originally posted by: Tullphan
What's a good replacement for a noisy newer version northbridge cooler? Something easily installed, please? hehe

As mentioned earlier in this thread the ThermalTake Tiger 1 that you can find pretty cheap at newegg is the best solution.
 

BigSteve

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I've an IS7 using RAID (mirror) with 2 80G SATA drives.
Got XP loaded, booted up for the last time and got a RAID error DEGRADED
disk 0 indicated error, disk 1 was fine.
Culprit was faulty cable.

Question is how to rebuild the disk.

Documentation is not real good, online resources told me to delete RAID,
or make disks non-raid or some such path (primrose).
All seemed to point to descruction of data (as per text on the screen)
as I tested my options.

Well, I've destroyed the data, & now started over, but I'd still like
to understand how to reconstruct data if (when) it happens again.

Thanks
steve
 

BigSteve

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IS7 RAID rebuild solved.
Well, I guess if I would have loaded all the softeware on the ABIT CD, it would have been
automatic, well pretty much so.
I just assumed that you should be able to rebuild the disk from the BIOS.

Silly me.
You need to load the
"Intel Application Accelerator RAID"
and all is managed from within (at least) Windows XP PRO.
All's well that ends well.
 

orion7144

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Originally posted by: BigSteve
IS7 RAID rebuild solved.
Well, I guess if I would have loaded all the softeware on the ABIT CD, it would have been
automatic, well pretty much so.
I just assumed that you should be able to rebuild the disk from the BIOS.

Silly me.
You need to load the
"Intel Application Accelerator RAID"
and all is managed from within (at least) Windows XP PRO.
All's well that ends well.

YOu should be able to rebuild on boot up when the Raid screen is detecting drives. I think it is CNTRL F or H to get to the options there is a option to rebuild array. (Only for RAID 1)
 

Reliant

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I'm thinking of getting a Raptor but I was wondering about the SATA connection itself. Do you need a special power connector or what? Also, I'd want to keep my current 2 IDE drives for storage, would I be able to tell the mobo to boot from SATA? I haven't seen that option, so that's why I ask.
 

computer

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I don't have the mobo now, but going from memory you can boot from any HD. It may not say "SATA", it may be called something else. Hold off as long as you can and get the new Raptor, it's very expensive now. Both the old and new have conventional molex power connectors, plus the special SATA power connectors.....only one can be used so if you don't have a power supply with SATA power, use the molex.
 

Reliant

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Originally posted by: computer
I don't have the mobo now, but going from memory you can boot from any HD. It may not say "SATA", it may be called something else. Hold off as long as you can and get the new Raptor, it's very expensive now. Both the old and new have conventional molex power connectors, plus the special SATA power connectors.....only one can be used so if you don't have a power supply with SATA power, use the molex.

I was thinking about the 36gb to be honest, I only have a 40gb OS drive anyways.
 

orion7144

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Originally posted by: Reliant
Originally posted by: computer
I don't have the mobo now, but going from memory you can boot from any HD. It may not say "SATA", it may be called something else. Hold off as long as you can and get the new Raptor, it's very expensive now. Both the old and new have conventional molex power connectors, plus the special SATA power connectors.....only one can be used so if you don't have a power supply with SATA power, use the molex.

I was thinking about the 36gb to be honest, I only have a 40gb OS drive anyways.


There should have been an adapter in the box with your MB. It is a molex to SATA pwr. Yes you can tell it to boot to SATA (It might say SATA/RAID). You have to enable the SATA in the BIOS first.
 

computer

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I should have said the difference between the old and new Raptor isn't size alone. I just deleted the Anandtech link last night on the difference. I don't recall any of them now, but the new one had 4 more features. The search function at Anand is screwed up like the search function at these message boards; it won't find what you search for. I tried to search and only found two review links and it was for the old Raptor. The page I had was not a review link, but a small paragraph stating what the new Raptor had over the old. (Wow, looking at one of those links, the Raptor SUCKS, it's REALLY SLOW!!) I wonder if that's because it was a Beta unit??? That goes against all the other Raptor reviews I saw. On my P4C800-E Deluxe I tested my old Raptor against the 80gb & 120gb Seagate, and 80gb Maxtor all IDE 7200rpm w/8mb cache & the Raptor beat them in HDtach, and Sandra; on the ICH5R controller, the Promise controller, and a Promise controller card (for the IDE HD's). I just now tested the Raptor against the Seagate 120gb, both on the Promise controller using a new (to me) benchmark called "PerformanceTest". The Raptor beat it out, but BARELY.

Ah, I read the second review which was for the RELEASE version of the Raptor, it beats them ALL out in ALL tests except one, and in that one loses only to SCSI drives. New Review. Old Review.
 

orion7144

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Originally posted by: computer
I should have said the difference between the old and new Raptor isn't size alone. I just deleted the Anandtech link last night on the difference. I don't recall any of them now, but the new one had 4 more features. The search function at Anand is screwed up like the search function at these message boards; it won't find what you search for. I tried to search and only found two review links and it was for the old Raptor. The page I had was not a review link, but a small paragraph stating what the new Raptor had over the old. (Wow, looking at one of those links, the Raptor SUCKS, it's REALLY SLOW!!) I wonder if that's because it was a Beta unit??? That goes against all the other Raptor reviews I saw. On my P4C800-E Deluxe I tested my old Raptor against the 80gb & 120gb Seagate, and 80gb Maxtor all IDE 7200rpm w/8mb cache & the Raptor beat them in HDtach, and Sandra; on the ICH5R controller, the Promise controller, and a Promise controller card (for the IDE HD's). I just now tested the Raptor against the Seagate 120gb, both on the Promise controller using a new (to me) benchmark called "PerformanceTest". The Raptor beat it out, but BARELY.

Ah, I read the second review which was for the RELEASE version of the Raptor, it beats them ALL out in ALL tests except one, and in that one loses only to SCSI drives. New Review. Old Review.


And those are the more expensive SCSI drives. Up against your ordinary everyday Joe's SCSI it will be ahead. You just can't beat the Raptor's cost compared to the SCSI solutions.
 

computer

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Yeah, it's impressive in those tests. I just ran some file copying tests and it beat the Seagate I mentioned below (or above depending on how your layout is of this thread). It was close. It was about 2-3 seconds faster when copying about a 400mb file on ITSELF (right click and "copy here").
 
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