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Noid

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I found another memory timing sweet spot using timing cas 2.0 11 3 2

This gave me +31mb/s in memtest86 giving me 1656Mb/s
Although I tried 11 2 2 ,, , memtest86 produced an error and W2k wouldnt load.

11 3 3 gave me less than I had at 8 3 3 which was 1625Mb/s

this gave me a 18 point increase in Sandra also - 3350 / 3131

Dunno why this gives more,,, maybe someone can enlightn us. (me)
 

Megatomic

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11-2-2-2.0 worked for me on both my 8RDA+ and my NF7-S at 200MHz FSB.

THIS might explain why TRAS of 11 increases performance so dramatically for some people (including me).
 

Actaeon

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I have a question regarding cooling the Northbridge and Southbridge on the NF7-S V2.

I read Abit didn't do a really good job with the thermal paste (uneven, or too little) on the Northbridge. Should I take the HSF off, clean off all there goop, and apply a thin later of AS3?

The southbridge isn't cooled. Does it get hot enough that I should buy a passive heatsink, and slap it on there? Your opinions please?

Thanks

EDIT: Oh, another question...

I want to use my HD on the SATA converter thing it comes with. Can I just setup the SATA converter, my HD, and plug it in, and it'll work? I know it comes with a floppy disk for the SATA, so I'm curious...

Thanks again...
 

Noid

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Well ,,, I ALWAYS look under the HSF units on a new MB. (Learned from experience)
The NF7-S's have 'enough'. The paste put on by the manufactures usually consist of a small drop of paste, and it's never spread over the entire chip.

So, yes it's worth the effort, and you'll have satifaction that your getting the best performance with the cooling you have.
(and if your going to OC, you'll get more)

The SB gets hot, but shoud be OK, unless you do a volt mod.
I put a small 'low-rise' HSF unit from one of my old vid cards on mine.

Can't help you with SATA (not usin it)
 

Richdog

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Originally posted by: Megatomic
11-2-2-2.0 worked for me on both my 8RDA+ and my NF7-S at 200MHz FSB.

THIS might explain why TRAS of 11 increases performance so dramatically for some people (including me).


That is the most useful guide i've read in AGES, cheers for that! :beer:

EDIT i just went from 8-3-3 to 11-3-3 and my memory bench went up! is 11 the sweet spot do you think, or would raising it even further improve my scores even more?
 

Noid

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Richdog,,,,
No way to tell except by benching.... all systms are unique
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I just lower my fsb to 215 today (hot in game room (Q3A froze)) ,,, and upped my multiplierto 10.5 ,,, also went 11 3 2 Cas 2.0
(and turned my A/C back on ... lol)

And .... tahhhh Dahhhhh ! ---- new high score 3dMark01 and 03 records for me.

Was I suprized to see higher scores,,, Cuz,,, my mem bandwidth went down... and only up 50Mhz on CPU.

I'm just allil pissed I didnt listen to others telling me to backoff to 215, and tighten timings...
(I couldnt post 220 using 11 2 2 so,,, I just assumed...)
 

Megatomic

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I was happy when I found that myself, I'm glad it helped you too. My own testing and observations have shown me that anything above 11 wasn't helpful. I got my best scores at 11, 5, and 8 and my system stability was the best at 11. I have decided to stay at 11. (surprise surprise )
 

Noid

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Yea ,,, real nice ,,, and at 215 I can run lower voltage to Chipset also....

I just dropped my mem voltage also to 2.8

Going to start my in-human torture test now,,, gonna see if it turns BLUE on me ....
 

Megatomic

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Hooray! My new BIOS chip fixed my dead board. I'm now back and I'm packing a Radeon 9600 Pro too.
 

Krueger81

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I should have this board by the end of next week. So hopefully I'll be up and running just like you guys.

Looking to overclock this barton to a 3200+ with one gig of PC3200 and a 9800 Pro

Phil
 

MTDEW

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I just got the Abit NF7 S and a Barton 2500.

Even though I have 2 other Nforce2 setups using the Epox 8RDA+,
some of the bios settings for the Abit had me a bit stumped as to what to set them at.

So i went off and did some searching to find out the meanings of some of the settings.

Ive been through this thread, and see other people new to the Abit NF7 S asking the same questions i was trying to get answers to.

The answers are here, but it still takes a good bit of searching to find out what ya wanna know.

So heres what i have so far...

NOTE: These are copy and pasted from other various forums.
I DO NOT wish to take credit for other peoples work!


This is just intended to help others new to the board get setup and running.

Most of this info was collected from the AMD.com under the ABIT MOTHERBOARDS section.
I would give credit for each individual bit of info, but i copy/pasted into a readme.txt for my own reference and never kept track of who supplied what info.

1) What exactly does "CPU Interface" do? (explanation meaningless: "if you choose enabled the system will use overclocked cpu/fsb parameters"... what does it mean)
1. enabling CPU-Interface will increase memory bandwith and reduce memory access latency.
So you should definately turn it on if it does not cause instability to your system.
some poeple report better o/c's with interface enabled, other better with it disabled, find what works for you.
Performance should be increased with it enabled but at the cost of some stability.



2) What exactly does "Enhance PCI performance" do? (totally absent on user's guide)
2. Enhance PCI Performance is for RAID/IDE performance it should give a boost in performance. This should be in the book.



3) FSB spread spectrum??
3. holds back overclocking by restricting emi, disable it if overclocking
Speed Spectrum is a way to offset EMI (electro magnet interference) created by the clock quartz crstal. By adjusting the value (higher) you can flatten the waves of the clock signal and thus gain stability that is if your system was having problems.

If you are O/C you will want to disable this feature as this can cause stability problems on a O/C system.



4) AGP spread spectrum?? (same as above)
4. as above


5) CPU FSB/DRAM ratio??? (explanation meaningless: "for example, the setting is 4/6, the memory clock will be the processor fsb clock divided by 4 and times 6" it doesn't mean anything!)
5. not meaningless, this enables you to run a variety of memory speeds asynchronous to fsb (133 / 4 x 6 = fsb 133, ram 200, or ddr 400)
any of the settings where the numbers are the same allow for synchronous operation

6) Ext P2P's discard time??? (totally absent on user's guide)
6. this was brought in in bios 1.4, to prevent sata corruption, default is 30us, if this fails to prevent corruption, drop setting to 1us

Disable cpu disconnect?? what is it? Will it slow down my cpu?
CPU disconnect is what you're talking about, and BTW it has absolutely no impact on performance. It simply helps cool the CPU by issuing a halt command when the CPU is idle.

CPU throttling is when the CPU is throttled back in the event of severe overheating. The threshold for CPU throttling is also adjustable in BIOS. Your CPU will not be throttled back unless the temp goes over that threshold.


CPU FSB / DRAM Ratio what to set it at? 3/3, 4/4, 5/5 etc

regardless of the fsb, these settings will keep the ram at the same setting as the fsb


Then why have all this different settings (3/3, 4/4, 5/5 and 6/6) if they ALL do the SAME thing?
good question......we've all been trying to work that out for months........

i done some benchies a little while ago, and although small, the lower ratios SEEMED to make a slight improvement in bandwidth on my rig, furthermore, i couldnt boot into windows with a 6/6 dram ratio, go figure

however, not everyone could reproduce my results, and the difference it made was small (around 5 mb/s)

they seem to affect stability, so just pick one that works and stick with it, 6/6 may be stable for some
4/4 may be stable for another etc... etc..
 

Mustanggt

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Anyone breaking 120 MB/S with Atto in raid 0 with 2 raptors ?? I have one Raptor that wont break 50 MB/S
 

Megatomic

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I wish I HAD a Raptor to try out. Maybe I'll get one of the new 72GB models when they come out.
 

pelikan

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I just installed a Raptor last week. Anyone know if I can get rid of the boot screen that asks for raid drivers? It slows the boot process a bit.
Also, I must say that I am happy with the performance increase of the Raptor over my WD SE drive. Games load slightly faster, but the main difference is in installing software, defragging, virus scans, regcleaner and the like.
 

GoingUp

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what voltages do you have your processors at?

My 2500+ is at 1.9 and I cant get it past 2.3.......

I have a AQXEA 0329MPMW chip....

Edit: Well I give up. The sweet spot for me seems to be 216x10.5= 2.27 so I am just going to leave it alone and not screw with it. System is rock solid and fast as hell I cant wait to encode some DVDs so I can compare the performance against the 1.4 Tbred I upgraded from
 

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Hi, I recently bought an NF7-S rev2.0, AXP 2500+, and Logitech Z640s. The CPU is OCed to 2200 (11x200) @ 1.7Vcore, everything else default. Everything is fine, except the speakers. I got them a few weeks after the rest of the system, and before that I was using some old speakers, which worked fine, but were really weak. These new ones are great, except I can't get any sound from the rear satellites. I messed with all the options in the nforce control panel, and managed to get them to work, but on the wrong channel (sound test said "Center" from them.) I checked, and everything is connected according to the instructions in the speakers' manual and mobo manual. So, I tried reinstalling the soundstorm drivers from the same CD I installed 'em from before. The installation process seemed to go fine, I restarted, and tried to get to the control panel. I got this error message: "Failed to initialize the NVIDIA audio driver! Please install and try again." I repeated the installation several times, always the same thing. I'm tired, so maybe I missed something? Ideas???
 

Spike

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make sure you run that annoying speaker setup wizard. One of the questions it asks is if you have one plug for all your speakers or if they have multiple plugs. I have the logitech Z-560's and had the same problem with this board. When I finally got the speakers in the right plugs (I can't read the manual worth beans) I ran the wizard and it found all the speakers, now they work awesome.

-spike

I have a question myself... how do you run the ram in dual channel? I have 2 sticks of PC-2100 Crucial (yes, I will upgrade sometime) installed in those two slots that are closest to the CPU (and each-other) Will it automatically run in dual channel or is there a Bios Setting? Thanks

 

Spike

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whoa, sorry, I did not see you say that you get audio driver problems... This happened to me when I tried to but the NF7-S in without reinstalling XP, this caused my sound drivers to fail, even with the latest ones from nVidia. I reinstalled XP and now everything works fine (after I ran that dumb speaker setup wizard)
 

pelikan

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Originally posted by: Spike
make sure you run that annoying speaker setup wizard. One of the questions it asks is if you have one plug for all your speakers or if they have multiple plugs. I have the logitech Z-560's and had the same problem with this board. When I finally got the speakers in the right plugs (I can't read the manual worth beans) I ran the wizard and it found all the speakers, now they work awesome.

-spike

I have a question myself... how do you run the ram in dual channel? I have 2 sticks of PC-2100 Crucial (yes, I will upgrade sometime) installed in those two slots that are closest to the CPU (and each-other) Will it automatically run in dual channel or is there a Bios Setting? Thanks

Dual channel is slot 1&3 or 2&3, slot 1 being the closest one to the cpu.
 

Spike

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Dual channel is slot 1&3 or 2&3, slot 1 being the closest one to the cpu.

thanks for that, I will switch them around next time I shutdown

-spike
 

Ant001

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alright, I got the drivers working again. Went to the device manager and it detected it as not working. Repaired it through windows (installation seemed exactly the same) and now it is back where I started.


But, the rear speakers still don't work. I plugged my GC into 'em using the adaptor and everything was fine, so the speakers are working properly. I have the connectors from the center plugged into the same color on the mobo. I ran the speakers set up wizard: 6spkrs-->analog connection (only)-->one or more inputs (?)--> didn't select either of the boxes. Now, when I use the test tone, I hear the surround voice from the subwoofer. I tried switching to surround mode, but didn't work. Is this right?
 
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