Official AMD Polaris Review Thread: Radeon RX 480, RX 470, and RX 460

[96Firebird]

No its a polaris thread.

That's where the 33 FPS came from...

Oh, wait, you were trying to be funny.

 

[coercitiv]

Oh, wait, you were trying to be funny.

He actually made a very good joke. It's a bit sad you can't enjoy it, but that's how humor works: not everybody gets it.

 

[Bacon1]

That's where the 33 FPS came from...

Oh, wait, you were trying to be funny.

Its ok, enjoy your outdated technology

From your buddy's favorite benchmark site no less.

 

[96Firebird]

Wow, are you guys trolling or is it something... else?

Here, read the slide. Read it carefully, you have to want to understand!

 

[coercitiv]

Wow, are you guys trolling or is it something... else?

I'm not trolling, I really believe it was a simple joke. I actually cheered for it because it's miles better than the constant clashes, bickering and FUD people tend to throw around at both chips, depending on favorite brand.

As for the slide, it's weak sauce marketing parading 4K results to make the FPS gain more valuable, as previously stated:

Showing 1080p numbers would make the gains less important as the base numbers would already be past 60 FPS. When base numbers are in the 30-40FPS territory, any 10-20% increase is needed. Buy now!

 

[Bacon1]

Wow, are you guys trolling or is it something... else?

Here, read the slide. Read it carefully, you have to want to understand!

Yes, they were comparing it @ 4k in opengl and showing that its now 18% faster than reference. Moving on to Vulkan and you can easily hit 40+ fps @ 4k and the 1060 is still @ low 30s.

Its ok though we won't judge you for missing the joke

 

[96Firebird]

I'm glad you finally understand, took a bit but I knew you'd get there!

Do you think 20% will be average improvements across the board?

 

[nurturedhate]

I'm glad you finally understand, took a bit but I knew you'd get there!

Do you think 20% will be average improvements across the board?

Still here with the callouts by insinuating people are ignorant and obtuse I see. Good job. You get a cookie.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Its a mindgame

AMD launch reference 480 with boostclock @ 1266mhz (even throttle down sometimes)

Nvidia adjust their own performance for the 1060 to be a tiny bit above the 480

Nvidia launch reference + AIB 1060 which is ~ +5% faster in dx11, and -5% slower in dx12. (maximum overclock is ~ +10%)

AMD launch AIB 480 with boostclock all the way upto 1450mhz. (unknown how much overclock is possible)

End result: 480 AIB beat 1060 AIB/reference in pure performance, even in dx 11.

1450/1266= ~14.5%

Link to these 1450MHz RX 480s?

 

[LTC8K6]

Wow, are you guys trolling or is it something... else?

Here, read the slide. Read it carefully, you have to want to understand!

If those are average frame rates, are the minimums unplayable?

And why Win7?

 

[LTC8K6]

http://videocardz.com/62454/xfx-reveals-radeon-rx-480-black-edition-performance

XFX Black Edition

 

[Det0x]

Link to these 1450MHz RX 480s?

http://en.yibada.com/articles/14263...0-devil-custom-card-factory-overclocked-1.htm

Closest i found after a 3 second of Google search ()

Think i saw someone linking a other model with 1450mhz boostclock, but ofcourse i cant remember where.

So we only have to make use of the 1400mhz boostclock version for now.. But my point still stands. (Even though it was mostly made as a joke)

 

[sze5003]

The more leaks of AIB I see the more I think we will be waiting until August. If they were going to release anything soon why wouldn't there be at least a date.

 

[swilli89]

The more leaks of AIB I see the more I think we will be waiting until August. If they were going to release anything soon why wouldn't there be at least a date.

From what I've read both retailers and AMD underestimated the huge demand for 480 chips so AIBs were left waiting a little longer than they originally expected. Soon stock will start to catch up to demand, just another week or two.

 

[Layer8]

If they were going to release anything soon why wouldn't there be at least a date.

http://www.powercolor.com/event/A_New_Devil_is_Born/index.htm

THE NEW DEVIL IS COMING TO GET YOU ON
JULY 21th

(And yes, as of now, its on the 21th.)

 

[sze5003]

http://www.powercolor.com/event/A_New_Devil_is_Born/index.htm



(And yes, as of now, its on the 21th.)

I signed up for that contest too. Either they need to correct that typo or Mike Tyson developed their coming soon page.

 

[therealnickdanger]

If those are average frame rates, are the minimums unplayable?

And why Win7?

Yeah... what? Showing off DX11 numbers in one of the few DX12 games? Still, almost 20% free performance, well probably not free. LOL

 

[torlen11cc]

Yes, they were comparing it @ 4k in opengl and showing that its now 18% faster than reference. Moving on to Vulkan and you can easily hit 40+ fps @ 4k and the 1060 is still @ low 30s.

Its ok though we won't judge you for missing the joke

How do you know that they have run the test using the API of the OpenGL and not the vulkans API instead?"
And if OpenGL API was used instead of a Vulkan one, how does it affect the differences we see between RX480 Refrence and RX480 Strix?

It seems like the RX480 has been limited by it's reference cooler, hence we have not yet been exposed to it's full performance.

 

[Bacon1]

How do you know that they have run the test using the API of the OpenGL and not the vulkans API instead?"
And if OpenGL API was used instead of a Vulkan one, how does it affect the differences we see between RX480 Refrence and RX480 Strix?

It seems like the RX480 has been limited by it's reference cooler, hence we have not yet been exposed to it's full performance.

Because I posted vulkan results that show reference running @ 40+ fps @ 4k.

http://pclab.pl/zdjecia/artykuly/chaostheory/2016/07/gfx_geforce_gtx1060/charts/doom_4k_2.png

I didn't mean that the strix was doing opengl vs vulkan testing.

 

[sirmo]

Its a mindgame

AMD launch reference 480 with boostclock @ 1266mhz (even throttle down sometimes)

Nvidia adjust their own performance for the 1060 to be a tiny bit above the 480

Nvidia launch reference + AIB 1060 which is ~ +5% faster in dx11, and -5% slower in dx12. (maximum overclock is ~ +10%)

AMD launch AIB 480 with boostclock all the way upto 1450mhz. (unknown how much overclock is possible)

End result: 480 AIB beat 1060 AIB/reference in pure performance, even in dx 11.

1450/1266= ~14.5%

They don't even need the 1450Mhz.. because most reference rx480s are power throttled. They all on average run under 1200Mhz out of the box (unless undervolted) in most every game.

1350Mhz clock with no power throttling and similar memory clock bump will make the card on par with the 1060.

And that's highly achievable.. my rx480 with a custom cooler hits 1380Mhz on stock voltages, stable.

 

[tonyfreak215]

They don't even need the 1450Mhz.. because most reference rx480s are power throttled. They all on average run under 1200Mhz out of the box (unless undervolted) in most every game.

1350Mhz clock with no power throttling and similar memory clock bump will make the card on par with the 1060.

And that's highly achievable.. my rx480 with a custom cooler hits 1380Mhz on stock voltages, stable.

Thank you for that post. I keep wanting to pull the trigger on a used 290x/390x, but then I see posts like yours that help me wait for the AIB 480s.

 

[sirmo]

Thank you for that post. I keep wanting to pull the trigger on a used 290x/390x, but then I see posts like yours that help me wait for the AIB 480s.

cheers!

 

[sze5003]

Thank you for that post. I keep wanting to pull the trigger on a used 290x/390x, but then I see posts like yours that help me wait for the AIB 480s.

At least wait until tomorrow or the 22nd.. maybe next week. If we don't see the nitro or powercolor out by then I'm going to end up buying a new monitor and probably a 1070/fury/980ti whichever I can find.

 

[Thala]

1350Mhz clock with no power throttling and similar memory clock bump will make the card on par with the 1060.

Actually 1266MHz without power throttling makes it already overtake 1060. If you read the very same computerbase article further they show that just by removing the power limit the card performance 8% faster.

 

[Yakk]

Looks like some people have their 480 Strix cards in hand already!

https://mobile.twitter.com/tinytomlogan/status/755753290336534528