Official AMD Ryzen Benchmarks, Reviews, Prices, and Discussion

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Markfw

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I'm only a simple messenger buddy, nothing more, nothing less. I just recall others caring about Linux. Since this is a review thread, I posted a simple review link. But still, they did not review as thorough as Phoronix seems to have did.
If you commented after the link, instead of just linking it, that would have been great, and maybe I would not have commented. Just putting in my 2 cents.
 

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In order to try and minimize the number of test variables, all RAM was kept at 2133 MHz for the testing


Despite the gimping with 2133 RAM and lousy overclocks (do they even know what they are doing, or did they get bottom 5% samples?) they were fairly complimentary of Ryzen's performance. I'd just chalk it up to needing another month or two before the platform becomes truly plug and play... even for people who don't know what they're doing.
 

Rifter

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Well, first off, they gimp the Ryzen, and put faster memory in the 6700, not even the PC3200 that they put in the 6700 ! Let alone on the newer bios, you might get 3600 to run, like other benchmarks,. And they couldn't even get 4 ghz like many of our members get ? This review bites. But they still gave a few kudos to Ryzen

Yeah obvious they did not try very hard. I wish people that either dont care or dont have the technical expertise would just not do reviews. they arnt helping anyone by doing half assed reviews.
 

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-edit- Timestamp didn't work, head to 8:03 and watch until about 9:35

In theory that's timestamped to the Mafia 3 benchmark for R5 1400 vs Intel i3 7350k and i5 7400.

Why i've timestamped it is for what the reviewer says, and it either means that Intel processors have either been suddenly optimised for this game, or either the Nvidia driver or the Mafia 3 driver has nerfed Ryzen performance.
Has anyone got this game and noticed a drop in performance?
 
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Hitman928

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Why i've timestamped it is for what the reviewer says, and it either means that Intel processors have either been suddenly optimised for this game, or either the Nvidia driver or the Mafia 3 driver has nerfed Ryzen performance.
Has anyone got this game and noticed a drop in performance?


This is of course assuming it's the same benchmarking run both times.
 

Corey Vu

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What impressed me was the AotS review...if games continue utilizing more cores/threads we'll see Ryzen pull ahead as the dominant CPUs.

As for the Mafia III review, is that jump for the 7350K a matter of Mafia III optimizing for intel CPUs?
 

Crumpet

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Hmm more research needed there, as the Ryzen chips have nosedived, unless that is to do with the cache?
 

Topweasel

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I wouldn't put too much time into figuring out what happened there. He seems to do the right thing and start over and test each time he presents numbers. But isn't very technical about it. Earlier when he was doing a comparison, I forgot what he was comparing. He threw in 2 DX12 benches to see if the "Ryzen +Nvidia issue" was true. The first was Tomb Raider and had wild numbers and the second I forget the game, actually visibly could see the discrepancy that the problem generally shows. He follows it with "sorry, see there isn't a problem".

I am not saying he is a bad guy but he is exactly the type that is a problem in tech reviews these days. Small samples, non-technical testing, little analyzation of results, with canned answers.
 
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Oddzz

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I just throw this in here. I have collected the numbers of many recent gaming benchmarks (1080p, only reviews published 04/11 or later) and put them together in this database:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=15s-e_FxSbvhpR8m5JtHLBOTDm-pQHVe0gAG6lWYnfuM

Warning!
It is not that easy to read. Sorry about that. The best advice I can give is to download it and open it on your local PC. Then you can hide all the columns you don't like and mark the rows you are interested in. Also be aware that it is showing the % delta based on the sheet you have opened. For the 1600X sheet you have to read it like "1600X is slower/faster than ...".

Maybe I can make someone happy with this. There is a lot of stuff in it and you can get a rough idea which games run better/worse on DX12, which game is performing bad/good and so on.
But is also shows what is wrong in the reviewing industry where every site has its own standards :/
 

Topweasel

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I just throw this in here. I have collected the numbers of many recent gaming benchmarks (1080p, only reviews published 04/11 or later) and put them together in this database:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=15s-e_FxSbvhpR8m5JtHLBOTDm-pQHVe0gAG6lWYnfuM


Is really the most telling. Nearly across the board all the Intel 4c see improvements in benches when switching to DX12 and on nearly all the Ryzen benches, except 2 and 1 of them had a counter point, they lose performance when switching to DX12.

I'd have liked to see more 6900 tests. Only one of them acts like a Ryzen (though It would ignore the one with a 40% increase as that site seems a crazy outlier for that benchmark). Computerbase did have some 720p tests with the 6900 that had the same performance characteristics as Ryzen almost across the board.
 
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Oddzz

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Is really the most telling. Nearly across the board all the Intel 4c see improvements in benches when switching to DX12 and on nearly all the Ryzen benches, except 2 and 1 of them had a counter point, they lose performance when switching to DX12.

I'd have liked to see more 6900 tests. Only one of them acts like a Ryzen (though It would ignore the one with a 40% increase as that site seems a crazy outlier for that benchmark). Computerbase did have some 720p tests with the 6900 that had the same performance characteristics as Ryzen almost across the board.

Too bad there are not that many sites doing the API test more often. What I've learnt so far - If a reviewer is only showing a broken DX12 benchmark like Rise of the Tomb Raider then I can't take him seriously anymore.
 

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Well, so far the best I have gotten to via Aida 5.90.4200 is 81.9ns on the memory latency bench. 2933mhz @14-15-15 timings. 1600 non-x @ 3500mhz. I'm running G-Skill 3000+ Hynix ram.




The averages are different overall but I cracked into the very low 80's for once.

Anyone able to get in the 70ns area?
 

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Is really the most telling. Nearly across the board all the Intel 4c see improvements in benches when switching to DX12 and on nearly all the Ryzen benches, except 2 and 1 of them had a counter point, they lose performance when switching to DX12.
You forgot to mention that all those tests are using an Nvidia GPU.
 

Topweasel

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You forgot to mention that all those tests are using an Nvidia GPU.
Well I didn't think I needed to point that out because it was pretty much exactly what Oddzz was collecting the information for. But yes all of them appear to be using a 1080 or higher.
 
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Guys, I received the following email from ASRock regarding Taichi availability.

"Thank you for your interest of ASRock MB. The next ETA to Newegg is 4/27 or 4/28 but due to quantity is vey limited so suggest you sing up auto notify. Thanks"
 

IEC

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Well, so far the best I have gotten to via Aida 5.90.4200 is 81.9ns on the memory latency bench. 2933mhz @14-15-15 timings. 1600 non-x @ 3500mhz. I'm running G-Skill 3000+ Hynix ram.
The averages are different overall but I cracked into the very low 80's for once.

Anyone able to get in the 70ns area?

Sounds about right for 2933.

I can get in the low 70s with DDR4-3200 CL14 on AGESA 1004a, multiple boards. This one takes the cake though, 4 DIMMs of 8GB Samsung B-Die at 3200 CL14 timings on Gigabyte K7:


Highly YMMV on running 4 DIMMs @ 3200+ though, at least until future AGESA and EFI updates arrive.
 

Oddzz

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Good to see Ryzen selling well .

https://mybroadband.co.za/news/hardware/207708-amd-catching-up-to-intel-in-south-africa.html

I hope AMD can get to 20-25% desktop / notebook market share over the next few years. The key is going to be AMD's execution with Raven Ridge, Pinnacle Ridge and a timely launch of 7nm products in 2019.
German retailer Mindfactory is showing how many processors they have sold and it basically confirms what the article is saying - 1700 is the most popular (with the 1700X) atm but the 1600 is catching up fast.
 

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someone attempted to compare "real world" usage of 1600 vs 6600K

only compares 2 games , uses stock clocks, and uses low speed RAM though
 

Markfw

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someone attempted to compare "real world" usage of 1600 vs 6600K

only compares 2 games , uses stock clocks, and uses low speed RAM though
The low ram speed alone almost invalidates the testing, but he still did say, even handicapped like that it did better.

I would love to see the same type of test with 3200 cas14 memory.
 
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