Look at this CPU-Z and tell me with straight face it is real.1700x vs 7700k
1700x is winning by a mile!
A 1700 that isn't even OC'd!? lol Get real...
1700x vs 7700k
1700x is winning by a mile!
EDIT: Probably fake, actually.
So Ryzen at about 9.4/GHz. The data I have show 4790 @ 10.4/GHz in 64-bit and 10.2/GHz in 32-bit. Both with gcc 5.2 and -O3 (IIRC). Not exactly the same compiler revision and not the same flag, but I don't expect more than 10% difference.
I hope someone will make a fair Intel vs AMD comparison with the same compiler and the same set of flags!
https://youtu.be/3mJIP0-1xDoCould you post a link to the actual video instead of a screenshot
What is it based on? Speculation on userbench with unknown clocks?
Also, QS is retail silicon bar naming.Still, it's done on a qualification sample, not retail silicon.
Source?
Also, QS is retail silicon bar naming.
The point being is that it does have pretense of having proper AM4 mobo and proper AM4 chip in it. Pretense, not evidence.He says he's using the Crosshair VI Hero. It's next to its box
It looks like QS 1700X, though, not 1700. I did not listen to video whether they downclocked it though.It makes sense for it to post those numbers, it's 3GHz base
Not sure about Ryzen, but for example past AMD CPUs such as Phenom II had CPUNB set to 2 GHz when 3 GHz (50% increase) was possible on air, close to 5 ghz (150%) possible on LN2. Of course, the CPU clock did not scale that well, so I think greater than linear scaling compared to AMD's baseline is possible.To have linearity in score, all clocks must scale linearly: CPU, RAM and NB. This is the case, probabily, with the record.
Any clock not increased causes underlinear behaviour.
They already performed the best case. In reality, raising only CPU clock gives diminished returns, namely you need even higher CPU clock to score a certain value.
I'm comparing the R7 1800x with the R7 1800x though. The only way that result can be explained, using simple maths, is that Ryzen SMT improves as you increase the clock; i.e. SMT gets better the more you OC it.
I don't know whether that is a viable conclusion.
"There are many fine justifications for more cores but Google Chrome"
As someone who can have 100 tabs open at one time.. you'd be surprised how sluggish google chrome can become on weak systems. Many sites can be javascript heavy and a bunch of intensive tabs open can eat up a good amount of resources.
http://www.sweclockers.com/forum/post/16680954Source?
Please post source or where you got it from every time you find a benchmark like this.
He says he's using the Crosshair VI Hero. It's next to its box
Right. Excellent then
But you are suggesting it throttles below base clock. Otherwise your input is irrelevant.
I actually laughed when I saw Gibbo's results. To actually be limited by VRM's... That wall is amazing.Cinebench versions were different, so you can calm down for now.
Anyways, looks like Zen is actually VRM limited O_O. Or it has voltage/freq so extreme that VRMs give up.
Voltage Regulator Modulewhat does VRM stand for anyway?
my crappy 8gb i5whatsit Windows 8 machine at work is constantly running out of memory for Chrome. I have to keep 3 windows upon (because of various email accounts), and usually about 20 or so tabs across all the windows. ...and I don't think that is a lot of tabs.
ok, and the asus prime pro has crappy VRM?Voltage Regulator Module.
So against some older competition and Broadwell-E the 7700K was fastest in 2 games out of 14 and all were at stock clockspeeds (which should be a bonus on 7700K side). This pretty much tells us that lower clockspeed and more cores is the way to go even today.
Any idea how much the massive L3 cache helps Broadwell-E in games?
That doesnt change the fact that this segment is low volume and will not increase AMDs x86 market share vs Intel.
But it will have at least a positive impact on the Q1 and more on the Q2 (R5 release as well) 2017 financial results.
ok, and the asus prime pro has crappy VRM?
The screen at the start says 6 core for ryzen, so it is not a 1700X, but still impressive.A 1700 that isn't even OC'd!? lol Get real...
1700x vs 7700k
1700x is winning by a mile!
Right now it's as much about mind share as it is anything else. Everyone is infected by Ryzen fever. An octocore + SMT with Haswell/Broadwell IPC and clocks up to 4.2+ GHz for $499? Unbelievable! Yet they did it.
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