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bjt2

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Not sure about Ryzen, but for example past AMD CPUs such as Phenom II had CPUNB set to 2 GHz when 3 GHz (50% increase) was possible on air, close to 5 ghz (150%) possible on LN2. Of course, the CPU clock did not scale that well, so I think greater than linear scaling compared to AMD's baseline is possible.

If the DRAM multiplier was 24x or 26x here (DDR4-3400 or 3700) as well with drastically improved bandwidth / latency (overclockers are hitting DDR4-4000 CL10 on Intel platforms vs. DDR4-2400 CL15) that would also be a higher increase proportional to the CPU clock increase.

They upped the bus to 140. Even supposing they left NB and CPU at default multiplier, maybe the ram does not support a 40% OC and was set to a lower multiplier, so not all is scaled, but the ram matters little in CB as we seen that there is almost no difference between dual and quad channel. Anyway theoretically the scaling can't be linear because the RAM probabily was set near stock clocks...
 

bjt2

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Nope, when i said its throttling down i mean it doesnt keep Turbo clocks. But it also doesnt keep running at 3.6GHz constant for the duration of the benchmark.
3.6GHz constant is worst case for my point. If it clocks higher during CB, the needed clock for 2449 is proportionally higher.
 
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Despoiler

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Agreed, they entered a "new" market ($300 and up) that Intel has 100% of market share the last 6-7 years. They had to make a big splash, they had to disrupt the market

Don't forget that Ryzen is also part of their GPU strategy. They just haven't explicitly said it. AMD GPUs are built for multi-thread, highly parallel operations. In order for that design to pay off they needed Mantle, Vulkan, and DX12 to exist. They accomplished that. The next piece of the plan is to increase the average user's CPU core count, which in turn increases next gen API use, that will push what game development will try to accomplish, which ultimately helps the performance of their GPUs. Ryzen is disruptive across the board in computing. Glorious!
 

Face2Face

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If this is true, then the 1700 is the bang for your buck king, and deserves a moment of silence...

 

unseenmorbidity

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Another guy said he struggled to get to 4ghz, and could only manage it the motherboards with the best VRMs.
 

tamz_msc

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So a 1-1.1 GHz overclock over the base clock for a 65W TDP 8C/16T chip? Not bad at all.
 

Magic Hate Ball

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If their OC software works as intended and can automatically adjust clocks depending on the workload, then with the 1700 I'd just set 4 cores to 4GHz and call it a day. No need to run 4GHz on all cores and have power consumption go through-the roof.

You can also identify your most efficient cores. I've noticed on almost all of my chips over the last 5 years (875k, 4770K, others) that at least half the cores run cooler than the other half... and sometimes there's one stand out that's 4-5 degrees cooler with a full 100% stress test from something like Prime95.

Pick those for your higher clocks and keep the rest where they can manage.
 

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Phynaz

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They've been wrong many times before (most of the times), but I'll say, they've been pretty spot on for RYZEN leaks. Too bad their comment section is just... embarrassing to the community. A trolls paradise, if you will.

If i throw a thousand darts a few are bound to hit the board.
 

CentroX

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Someone posted benches on userbenchmark with the 1700X (albeit it claims turbo was disabled). Interestingly, the floating point and integer scores favor Intel (15-20ish %). Here's some comparisons to Ivy Bridge E and Haswell E:

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/In ... 2580vs3915

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/In ... 1976vs3915

Is this due to the Ryzen having turbo disabled or could it be a design oversight that could cause Ryzen to underperform?
or maybe just the benchmark program? The multicore integer shouldn't be this low on ryzen.
 
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unseenmorbidity

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So a 1-1.1 GHz overclock over the base clock for a 65W TDP 8C/16T chip? Not bad at all.
It's only at those specs, because they underclocked it to create segmentation. I would be shocked if there was more than a 7% difference in OC clocks between 1700 and 1800x on average.
 
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looncraz

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It's only at those specs, because they underclocked it to create segmentation. I would be shocked if there was more than a 7% difference in OC clocks between 1700 and 1800x on average.

1800X is definitely more limited in availability than the 1700X or 1700. It sold out first (I'm like #2 in line at Amazon - I kept reloading the page until the contents changed and ordered it right away, then went looking for the motherboard ).

The point of that, of course, is that it suggests that the CPUs that qualify as an 1800X are more limited. AMD would be assured of being able to sell pretty much as many as they could make if they could all hit those clocks with the needed efficiency.
 
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