If it's not good enough buy Intel. Maybe the price will come down at least? That wouldn't be bad. Would it?
FWIW you seem to be in the minority. 12 people liked my post. I'm assuming that's because they agree. But you can still buy Intel.
If it's not good enough buy Intel. Maybe the price will come down at least? That wouldn't be bad. Would it?Yes, im expecting a brand new 1700X that has superior clock, equal or higher IPC, 2 extra cores, maybe better SMT to beat a 6800K across the board at gaming, Whats wrong with it? its not half the price and its not a high performance 4C 7700K that may work better at games that does not escale very well.
Thanks ,That has confused the hell out of me, also its a 1070 vs 1080 in both slides ? Odd from Amd.according to reddit,
AVG FPS Ryzen 1700 i7 7700k Var
GTA V 139 145 -4.14%
Alien: Isolation 163 165 -1.21%
Battlefield 4 94 93 1.08%
Ashes of the Singularity 41 44 -6.82%
Civilization VI 53 73 -27.40%
Doom 101 98 3.06%
AVG FPS Ryzen 1700x i7 6800k Var
GTA V 167 190 -12.11%
Alien: Isolation 193 200 -3.50%
Battlefield 4 111 115 -3.48%
Ashes of the Singularity 55 56 -1.79%
Civilization VI 67 79 -15.19%
Doom 127 123 3.25%
Marketing Forum Ryzen was pretty good.with the event in SFO last week.AMD's marketing team always seems to amaze at just how incompetent they are.
That event was absolutely awful.
Wonder why civ vi is an outlier
Marketing Forum Ryzen was pretty good.with the event in SFO last week.
One.also has to keep in mind that yesterday was a game developers conference and not a consumer one - so everybody that hoped to see Vega specs and comparisons did forget about that.
The probability that behind closed doors game devs saw Vega is very high, just we didn't get to see it
Ryzen already has that IPC gain from this slide if ZEN+ includedOnly official slide I've seen yet on Zen+ (Anandtech):
That was back in May, 2015
3. Both if the above is possible and AMD just plays quite to avoide hype in either directionThey said that the demos and everything were running and would be available to those at the event.
One of two things will be true with Vega:
1. AMD is seriously sandbagging - and nVidia knows it.
2. Vega 'sucks' and nVidia is trying to rub AMD's nose in it.
I'm leaning towards #1, though I certainly wouldn't discount #2.
IF Amd has a competitive product to the 1080ti then they really missed a trick here, to not show anything at all when they were happy to show comparisons in December is puzzling.They said that the demos and everything were running and would be available to those at the event.
One of two things will be true with Vega:
1. AMD is seriously sandbagging - and nVidia knows it.
2. Vega 'sucks' and nVidia is trying to rub AMD's nose in it.
I'm leaning towards #1, though I certainly wouldn't discount #2.
Nothing like live TV.Stuff happens sometimes. When Intel demoed IBR, it froze and the guy kept on acting like he was playing when it wasn't. Its embarrassing but nothing is perfect.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3155...hitecture-is-expected-to-last-four-years.htmlAMD has never said anything to that effect.
When asked how long Zen would last, compared to Intel’s two-year tick-tock cadence, Papermaster confirmed the four-year lifespan and tapped the table in front of him: “We’re not going tick-tock,” he said. “Zen is going to be tock, tock, tock.”
IF Amd has a competitive product to the 1080ti then they really missed a trick here, to not show anything at all when they were happy to show comparisons in December is puzzling.
Well, I doubt AMD was surprised by nVidia's move - they probably have a pretty good idea as to what nVidia was going to do (with some uncertainty planned in). AMD may have chosen to hide their cards (literally) so their showcased performance or other details weren't made to look bad immediately after they were demonstrated (which is why nVidia chose the same day for their event).
This might explain some of the hum-drum nature of the presentation - they had to change it up rather late in the game.
I wouldn't be surprised if we see some ... leaks ... regarding the demos at the event before 1080ti launches.
we have two data points to compare, vega was shown to be about 10% faster than a 1080 in December time, 1080ti is likely to be 25% faster than that.Well, I doubt AMD was surprised by nVidia's move - they probably have a pretty good idea as to what nVidia was going to do (with some uncertainty planned in). AMD may have chosen to hide their cards (literally) so their showcased performance or other details weren't made to look bad immediately after they were demonstrated (which is why nVidia chose the same day for their event).
This might explain some of the hum-drum nature of the presentation - they had to change it up rather late in the game.
I wouldn't be surprised if we see some ... leaks ... regarding the demos at the event before 1080ti launches.
What?? R1700 looks outstanding vs the more expensive and higher clocked 7700k, people said it would get no where near, when both are overclocked to 4ghz and 5ghz i expect the tables will turn.
Hooray.
These are 1440p Ultra benches on 1080. Most of them are GPU limited, except those that display any disrepancy.Not in the least - this is REALLY good. We're comparing CPUs with > 500Mhz clock speed differences and not seeing that much of a difference...
Not in the least - this is REALLY good. We're comparing CPUs with > 500Mhz clock speed differences and not seeing that much of a difference...
That's a bit of a blanket statement though, since it depends solely on the game. Say you're a Deus Ex fan and you're playing Mankind Divided a lot. You will probably struggle to keep the min fps above 60. And v-synced 120Hz? Forget it.A GTX1080 is insane overkill for 1080p Ultra.
Someone can tell my WHY Asrock is in dumb mode? they made some great AM4 boards, in the AB350s they connected the 2nd PCI-E 16x at the PCI-E 4X 3.0 coming from the CPU reserved for the 1st M2 Slot, as a result you need to choose either put a secondary GPU or a PCI-E M2, this could be great for only 1 thing, a cheap Crossfire board, as the 2nd PCI-E is 4x 3.0 and goes directly to the CPU, BUT they dont not support Crossfire!!!!! on neither of the 3 boards! one of them is a Fatality! :facepalm:
Add insult to injury, they added too many PCI-E 1x slots from the chipset, as a result the secondary M2 slot is Sata only, they could have done 2 pci-e 1x and x2 secondary M2...
What a wasted oportunity!