Official AMD Ryzen Benchmarks, Reviews, Prices, and Discussion

[nathanddrews]

"Wait a second... AMD didn't annihilate Intel on every single benchmark by at least 40% IPC? Screw that, I guess I'll pay $600 for a 4-core rig instead."
/the last 5 pages of this thread

Seems to me that the following has happened:
1. AMD is competitive in single threaded
2. AMD is better in multi threaded
3. AMD is better in memory bandwidth
4. AMD is significantly cheaper

Isn't this the day we have all been waiting for? AMD fanboys can claim some victories and Intel fanboys can pay less for stuff they were going to buy anyway.

 

[USER8000]

Kinda boggles my mind why anyone would be an Intel fanboy. Fanboy of what exactly, extortion pricing? For what reason? Are they jealous that 8 cores are becoming mainstream and not just for elite few?

You are forgetting second-hand prices will start to crash if Intel and AMD start dropping prices for 8C and 6C parts. For everybody else the renewed competition is what is needed.

Intel is charging daft money for a tiny 122.4MM2 chip.

Intel sold the much larger 14NM Broadwell Core i7 5775C for roughly the same price,which was a multi-chip module.

In the UK the Core i7 7700K is £330+ and since the leaked Ryzen pricing appears to be correct,the best 4C/8T Ryzen will be more like £200.

£130 is the difference between a GTX1060 or RX480 and a GTX1070.

 

[richierich1212]

The hate towards Ryzen is absolutely hilarious. They must have been hypnotized by the tick-tock-tick-tock-tick-tick-tick of Intel's grandfather clock

 

[PotatoWithEarsOnSide]

Intel fanboys can pay less for stuff they were going to buy anyway.

Perhaps they can convince the bank of mum and dad that they really do need that 1080ti with the money that they've saved them... ;p

IMO, the only way that gamers buy into Ryzen is if the YT streamers give it stellar reviews. Given the nature of those activities, you might expect that to actually happen.

 

[USER8000]

^It's absolutely hilarious. They must have been hypnotized by the tick-tock-tick-tock-tick-tick-tick of Intel's grandfather clock

It gets better - do people remember the Xeon E3 range?? In the UK they were the cheapest path to a Core i7 and were as low as £175,and you could get a cheap £50 to £60 motherboard and run them fine.

What did Intel do?? They made a "new" chipset called C232 and locked them to that chipset artificially and the motherboards were more expensive especially smaller ones. It uses the same 1151 socket.

 

[lobz]

Hype train derailed?

http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-1700x-1700-official-gaming-benchmarks-leak/

Numbers and math are not your thing, I assume. It doesn't make you less of a man, it just makes me wonder what drives you to post nonsense here? Clearly this forum has knowledgeable ppl from both sides as well as many neutral and objective ppl, why would you present some numbers and state the exact opposite of what they mean??

 

[PotatoWithEarsOnSide]

What did Intel do?? They made a "new" chipset called C232 and locked them to that chipset artificially and the motherboards were more expensive especially smaller ones. It uses the same 1151 socket.

Nothing like a bit of artificial price manipulation to screw your customers over. Apple do it every day. I hate Apple.

 

[vissarix]

Since you guys do not understand, or maybe you do it on purpose i will try to explain what those benchmarks means...

Ryzen does NOT have Broadwell IPC, actually it is quite slower...Why you may ask? If Ryzen had Broadwell IPC it wouldnt lose 4 games out of 6 vs the i7 6800k while having same IPC as broadwell, higher frequency, 2 more cores...

R15 Cinebench ST test points out around Haswell IPC
R11.5 Cinebench ST test points out around Sandy Bridge IPC

This looks like Buldozer all over again...

Remember that the FX 8150 would also be quite faster then an i5 2500k in multithreaded benchmarks, but it got stomped on gaming...and i remember some comments saying yes but wait till it gets fully utilised, Buldozer will kill Intel cpu's...6 years later and nothing has changed...

Now the advantage for Intel chips seems to be quite smaller, but it is still there...

Stop the trolling, its not allowed
Markfw
Anandtech Moderator

 

[coercitiv]

This looks like Buldozer all over again...

Hey, it's your rep on the forum. That's the beauty of it, you can spend it all just like that.

 

[LTC8K6]

Since you guys do not understand, or maybe you do it on purpose i will try to explain what those benchmarks means...

Ryzen does NOT have Broadwell IPC, actually it is quite slower...Why you may ask? If Ryzen had Broadwell IPC it wouldnt lose 7 games out of 11 vs the i7 6800k while having same IPC as broadwell, higher frequency, 2 more cores...

R15 Cinebench ST test points out around Haswell IPC
R11.5 Cinebench ST test points out around Sandy Bridge IPC

This looks like Buldozer all over again...

Remember that the FX 8150 would also be quite faster then an i5 2500k in multithreaded benchmarks, but it got stomped on gaming...and i remember some comments saying yes but wait till it gets fully utilised, Buldozer will kill Intel cpu's...6 years later and nothing has changed...

Now the advantage for Intel chips seems to be quite smaller, but it is still there...

I'm an Intel fan and I don't see RyZen as Bulldozer all over again...
We only have one more day for the official evaluations, anyway.
Why not wait and see?

 

[TemjinGold]

Since you guys do not understand, or maybe you do it on purpose i will try to explain what those benchmarks means...

Ryzen does NOT have Broadwell IPC, actually it is quite slower...Why you may ask? If Ryzen had Broadwell IPC it wouldnt lose 4 games out of 6 vs the i7 6800k while having same IPC as broadwell, higher frequency, 2 more cores...

R15 Cinebench ST test points out around Haswell IPC
R11.5 Cinebench ST test points out around Sandy Bridge IPC

This looks like Buldozer all over again...

Remember that the FX 8150 would also be quite faster then an i5 2500k in multithreaded benchmarks, but it got stomped on gaming...and i remember some comments saying yes but wait till it gets fully utilised, Buldozer will kill Intel cpu's...6 years later and nothing has changed...

Now the advantage for Intel chips seems to be quite smaller, but it is still there...

Holy crap it's Bulldozer all over again. Guess I better cancel all of my pre-orders...

 

[LTC8K6]

Holy crap it's Bulldozer all over again. Guess I better cancel all of my pre-orders...

Fly your new 370 board off a cliff like a Frisbee...

 

[coercitiv]

We only have one more day for the official evaluations, anyway.

One more day and everyone who is disappointed by Zen can talk with hard numbers from many independent sources, testing everything inside out.

 

[richierich1212]

Since you guys do not understand, or maybe you do it on purpose i will try to explain what those benchmarks means...

Oh why don't you go post in the Intel forum...oh wait a moment...never mind.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Since you guys do not understand, or maybe you do it on purpose i will try to explain what those benchmarks means...

Ryzen does NOT have Broadwell IPC, actually it is quite slower...Why you may ask? If Ryzen had Broadwell IPC it wouldnt lose 4 games out of 6 vs the i7 6800k while having same IPC as broadwell, higher frequency, 2 more cores...

R15 Cinebench ST test points out around Haswell IPC
R11.5 Cinebench ST test points out around Sandy Bridge IPC

This looks like Buldozer all over again...

Remember that the FX 8150 would also be quite faster then an i5 2500k in multithreaded benchmarks, but it got stomped on gaming...and i remember some comments saying yes but wait till it gets fully utilised, Buldozer will kill Intel cpu's...6 years later and nothing has changed...

Now the advantage for Intel chips seems to be quite smaller, but it is still there...

So it's not really Bulldozer, but more Phenom II vs Lynnfield.

 

[vissarix]

Glad to see you guys has nothing to back up your claims, no facts, just trolling...make sure to report my posts as some of you always do...but this time am afraid it wont work

Stop the trolling, its not allowed
Markfw
Anandtech Moderator

 

[imported_jjj]

Since you guys do not understand, or maybe you do it on purpose i will try to explain what those benchmarks means...

Ryzen does NOT have Broadwell IPC, actually it is quite slower...Why you may ask? If Ryzen had Broadwell IPC it wouldnt lose 4 games out of 6 vs the i7 6800k while having same IPC as broadwell, higher frequency, 2 more cores...

R15 Cinebench ST test points out around Haswell IPC
R11.5 Cinebench ST test points out around Sandy Bridge IPC

This looks like Buldozer all over again...

Remember that the FX 8150 would also be quite faster then an i5 2500k in multithreaded benchmarks, but it got stomped on gaming...and i remember some comments saying yes but wait till it gets fully utilised, Buldozer will kill Intel cpu's...6 years later and nothing has changed...

Now the advantage for Intel chips seems to be quite smaller, but it is still there...

You are not familiar with frequencies for Intel and Ryzen.
There is a 100MHz ST clock difference in both Cinebench and this gaming test but that it is
Ryzen has always been a bit behind Broadwell but the gaming results here are likely not about IPC at all.
Considering the expected power consumption in actual apps and not peak, as well as area and process, Ryzen is better than Intel's core, by a lot.
They are half a node behind , the L3 is high density SRAM )1:1:1) and the leaked power numbers are great- again not talking about peak.
I get it that the press has been pushing for ST perf so hard,mostly because Apple's dual cores, that we still talk about ST perf in 2017 but tomorrow nobody will care about it anymore and that's due to Ryzen allowing us to buy more cores.

 

[USER8000]

Holy crap it's Bulldozer all over again. Guess I better cancel all of my pre-orders...

So he is saying Ryzen has worse IPC than Excavator?? Wut??

 

[PotatoWithEarsOnSide]

I don't think that ay of us have Ryzen CPUs in our possession to be able to post facts about, though i f we did then we'd be under NDA.
Wait until tomorrow, and if you can't wait, go troll on WCCFTECH.

 

[tamz_msc]

Glad to see you guys has nothing to back up your claims, no facts, just trolling...make sure to report my posts as some of you always do...but this time am afraid it wont work

It seems you aren't up to date with your numbers. Either that or just alternative facts.

From AMD slides 1800X 162 ST with Precision Boost vs the same for the 6900K with Turbo Boost 3 and hence both running at 4GHz on SCT.

 

[richierich1212]

So he is saying Ryzen has worse IPC than Excavator?? Wut??

He said Ryzen has sandybridge IPC. juangra, is that you?

 

[imported_jjj]

And lets not pretend that there are no 6 and 4 cores. There Ryzen will have more memory bandwidth per core and run against lower clocked Intel products, it will be more interesting for folks that seem to only need 1 core.This way they can pay under 200$ for a nice quad core with 8 threads and pair it with a 500$ GTX 1080, instead of buying a 7700k and a GTX 1070.

 

[Arachnotronic]

He said Ryzen has sandybridge IPC. juangra, is that you?

I don't know why you are making fun of anybody who said that Ryzen had Sandy Bridge IPC. Based on AMD's 40% claim, that's where it would have landed. There is no way for anybody who was making predictions before these announcements to know that AMD was sandbagging and actually got 52%.

 

[USER8000]

I don't know why you are making fun of anybody who said that Ryzen had Sandy Bridge IPC. Based on AMD's 40% claim, that's where it would have landed. There is no way for anybody who was making predictions before these announcements to know that AMD was sandbagging and actually got 52%.

Nope,but he said it was Bulldozer again - Bulldozer regressed in IPC.

 

[vissarix]

It seems you aren't up to date with your numbers. Either that or just alternative facts.

From AMD slides 1800X 162 ST with Precision Boost vs the same for the 6900K with Turbo Boost 3 and hence both running at 4GHz on SCT.

yeah right...from Amd slides...how do you know they both were running at 4ghz?

As i said in my previous post if Ryzen has same IPC as broadwell why does it loses on games? It is also running at higher frequency..