Official AMD Ryzen Benchmarks, Reviews, Prices, and Discussion

[Magic Hate Ball]

Well 6900K @ 3.7Ghz scores 153pts, you do the math at what clock it ran in order to score 162.

My i7-4770K running @ 4.3ghz only hits 165 ST in Cinbench R15. That's somehow tied with the presented 4.4ghz "baseline OC" 165 points ST of their example 4770K.

So if the Ryzen can hit 162 @ 4.0ghz (or even 4.1ghz XFR) then the IPC is higher than Haswell for sure.

 

[Doom2pro]

The only disappointing thing is that XFR only boosts 100mhz.
Everything else is just phenomenal!

I don't know if that is confirmed yet, technically it's supposed to be infinite depending on cooling... Maybe the stock cooler only allows about 100Mhz but that doesn't mean better cooling wont offer more.

 

[Shivansps]

I don't know if that is confirmed yet, technically it's supposed to be infinite depending on cooling... Maybe the stock cooler only allows about 100Mhz but that doesn't mean better cooling wont offer more.

It cant be infinite, but im petty sure 100mhz dont worth the hassle of developing and adding it.

 

[malitze]

I don't know if that is confirmed yet, technically it's supposed to be infinite depending on cooling... Maybe the stock cooler only allows about 100Mhz but that doesn't mean better cooling wont offer more.

That would mean that voltage must also be increase "infinitely", which I doubt tbh.

 

[Doom2pro]

That would mean that voltage must also be increase "infinitely", which I doubt tbh.

Up to a point the voltage wont go any higher for sure and of course clocks are not truly infinite, not sure how they do it, but clearly they are monitoring power and thermals.

I mean I don't see why you can't up voltage manually, throw on LN2 and watch XFR go as high as it can.

 

[sirmo]

Ok so you can totally OC just one core.. this is awesome.

 

[krumme]

The only disappointing thing is that XFR only boosts 100mhz.
Everything else is just phenomenal!

Its phenomenal compared to what?
As said the sb 4c was 216mm2 on 32nm.
A zen is 193mm2.
And they are selling it for 500usd. Hardly bad business but goes to show Intel could have developed the desktop market instead of actively killing it by offering nothing while posting 4b a year into mobile. 4.000.000.000.000 usd a year down the drain.
All while a amd team of 300 people was designing the zen cpu core. Its a damn disgrace - or perhaps funny...
The most self-destructive strategy. Now exposed.

 

[krumme]

Ok so you can totally OC just one core.. this is awesome.

Screeaaaming. I was hoping for excactly this. Like the new amd gpu oc ui. Total awesomeness.

 

[Insomniator]

Its phenomenal compared to what?
As said the sb 4c was 216mm2 on 32nm.
A zen is 193mm2.
And they are selling it for 500usd. Hardly bad business but goes to show Intel could have developed the desktop market instead of actively killing it by offering nothing while posting 4b a year into mobile. 4.000.000.000.000 usd a year down the drain.
All while a amd team of 300 people was designing the zen cpu core. Its a damn disgrace - or perhaps funny...
The most self-destructive strategy. Now exposed.

You think lack of performance is killing the desktop? Mobile is the growing segment. Who buys PC's anymore... every day this board has threads about 6-7 year old Sandy Bridge chips being good enough still. Nobody cares about some enthusiasts spending 500 dollars on gaming PC CPU's.

AMD needs to attack the server market with these chips.

 

[Glo.]

You think lack of performance is killing the desktop? Mobile is the growing segment. Who buys PC's anymore... every day this board has threads about 6-7 year old Sandy Bridge chips being good enough still. Nobody cares about some enthusiasts spending 500 dollars on gaming PC CPU's.

AMD needs to attack the server market with these chips.

Future of desktop is Small Form Factor, and efficiency. That is the area that every company will focus. AMD is first to do so.

 

[krumme]

You think lack of performance is killing the desktop? Mobile is the growing segment. Who buys PC's anymore... every day this board has threads about 6-7 year old Sandy Bridge chips being good enough still. Nobody cares about some enthusiasts spending 500 dollars on gaming PC CPU's.

AMD needs to attack the server market with these chips.

Yes. Intel and ms is killing the desktop. With nv sidelining and protecting and dragging their feet with dx11. Its all typical monopolistic behavior.
The core i7 920 was 263mm2. Its like 8 or 9 years ago.
Amd could give us 12 cores for that today. And in a size that wouldnt cost more than 70usd to make.
You need to develop a market for it to grow.
What would be the situation if 8c was the norm today and had been since ivy bridge?
You cant even imagine what would have happened with eg gaming and media.

 

[Mechanical Man]

You think lack of performance is killing the desktop? Mobile is the growing segment. Who buys PC's anymore... every day this board has threads about 6-7 year old Sandy Bridge chips being good enough still. Nobody cares about some enthusiasts spending 500 dollars on gaming PC CPU's.

AMD needs to attack the server market with these chips.

im pretty sure, all of ppl with some brains can see how good of a server cpu this actually is. They are offering a lot better performance per watt than intel does.

 

[Ryzenenthusiast]

So +5 Ghz with 2/4 via new OC Tool for games like WOW, LOL etc. Totally a 7350k killer. LOL RIP Intel...

 

[Face2Face]

Stock voltage @ 1.35V?

 

[The Stilt]

Eight from the CPU, then?

All PCIe lanes are in the CPU.
The external FCH is merely a demuxer (n Gen 3 to 2 x n Gen 2). Of course the hardware found in the FCH consumes some links as well.

 

[thepaleobiker]

too much informatoin in this thread!

Agreed! I'm unable to focus at work. Well, this is my AMD fix for now !

 

[Erithan13]

So here's the really important question that seems to have been missed:

Is it pronounced 'risen' or 'rye-zen'? I defaulted to the former but Lisa Su seems to disagree and I don't want to be making a fool out of myself in public (in the imaginary world where I have friends that actually care about the cpu market anyway).

 

[Dresdenboy]

Disappointing to see they gimped the Intel systems by only going dual-channel.

How much would that gain in the shown tests?

 

[richierich1212]

Is it pronounced 'risen' or 'rye-zen'? I defaulted to the former but Lisa Su seems to disagree

Seems? She's the CEO lol.

 

[Crono]

So here's the really important question that seems to have been missed:

Is it pronounced 'risen' or 'rye-zen'? I defaulted to the former but Lisa Su seems to disagree and I don't want to be making a fool out of myself in public (in the imaginary world where I have friends that actually care about the cpu market anyway).

As far as I know it's rye-zen. I don't think I've heard anyone from AMD in interviews pronounce it "risen", and in all the hardware site videos/podcasts I've seen they pronounce it rye-zen.

 

[IEC]

How much would that gain in the shown tests?

Zero or within margin of error in the tests shown, so if we want to be pedantic there was no gimping going on.

That still leaves separate the question of whether or not quad channel memory would make a difference for any other applications people might care about.

For me, probably not.

 

[Topweasel]

Stupid question -- these don't support DDR3 right? I have 32GB.....

Also, anyone know when mATX boards are being released?

On Newegg I think MSI had a launch mATX board. When the 5 series launches I hope they have iTX boards to launch with.

 

[Glo.]

The OC tool is called Ryzen Master.

I laughed my ass off!

 

[Dresdenboy]

Ok so you can totally OC just one core.. this is awesome.

AMD RyZen Master ...

Edit: Oh no, Glo. beat me by a minute! Had to tweet that first, hehe.

 

[sirmo]

Something I've been thinking about and haven't seen anyone address really.

Recently some material has been leaked from the AMD's ISSCC presentation: https://videocardz.com/65774/more-details-about-amd-zen-cpu-core-revealed-at-isscc

The curious tidbit is this:

The material claims that AMD has a local LDO voltage regulator. LDOs are typically linear but in other article I've seen a mention of the term "digital LDO", it's kind of a weird name but anyways I think this is a switching regulator.. as linear regulators would make no sense (they waste too much power).

Why am I bringing this up? Well anyone who's worked with electronics can tell you that voltage regulators/LDOs or whatnot have a dropout voltage. I think one of the reasons we've been seeing higher than usual voltages in various screenshots (1.87v in that 5.2Ghz LN2 OC and 1.35v in that Ryzen Master screenshot for 3900Mhz) is because of the dropout voltage needed to compensate for this LDO.

The voltage being reported is the voltage at the Vin or at the VRM.. but the cores need a certain margin to compensate for the dropout in each LDO regulator.

So this is something to keep in mind when thinking of voltages.