This is what I am curious about if that is accurate. You would think that the ghz achieved MT would be the same as ST. MT performance is good regardless, but that is rather curious.
This is what I am curious about if that is accurate. You would think that the ghz achieved MT would be the same as ST. MT performance is good regardless, but that is rather curious.anyone else confused why some of the stuff have the cpu at 3.7ghz with xfr but single has it at 4.1ghz?
Nope. ST boost is 4Ghz and 4.1Ghz is XFR is active. All core Turbo boost is active and is 3.7Ghz IF XFR is active, otherwise chip runs at its base clock of 3.6Ghz. Later is the case if there is >1 thread loaded on the chip. Former is only 1T scenario, hence higher clock(XFR or not).anyone else confused why some of the stuff have the cpu at 3.7ghz with xfr but single has it at 4.1ghz?
The point is Ryzen kicks ass. Latency or what is reported by apps like this means nothing in practice when you have performance like this.all cores vs 1 core.
2133C15 has lower latency than 2400C17...
do you think its possible the ST loss is caus of no intel style AVX?Nope. ST boost is 4Ghz and 4.1Ghz is XFR is active. All core Turbo boost is active and is 3.7Ghz IF XFR is active, otherwise chip runs at its base clock of 3.6Ghz. Later is the case if there is >1 thread loaded on the chip. Former is only 1T scenario, hence higher clock(XFR or not).
Er nope, inf64 explained it clearly.anyone else confused why some of the stuff have the cpu at 3.7ghz with xfr but single has it at 4.1ghz?
I doubt that. ST is right there with intel latest chips, it is 7-8% lower per clock than Skylake or BDW-E. That is peanuts difference, remember that AMD was a staggering 55-60% behind those scores with Excavator.do you think its possible the ST loss is caus of no intel style AVX?
Er nope, inf64 explained it clearly.
Some tests are ST so 4ghz precision boost PLUS 100mhz xfr.
MT test put 1800x at 3.6 precision boost AC PLUS 100mhz xfr.
^ Let's not even talked about the dick punch called the Celeron 300A that came out just a few months after and OCed to 450MHz past both of them
I thought it is about 2% slower vs BWE? Margin of error stuff, if integer rocks your boat its considerably faster.I doubt that. ST is right there with intel latest chips, it is 7-8% lower per clock than Skylake or BDW-E. That is peanuts difference, remember that AMD was a staggering 55-60% behind those scores with Excavator.
Nah, it is new PhenomCorrect, its the new Hammer
Well, i am looking at those Prime numbers and Physics results and keep thinking latency mattersThe point is Ryzen kicks ass. Latency or what is reported by apps like this means nothing in practice when you have performance like this.
possible not on all benchmarks ofcourse.I thought it is about 2% slower vs BWE? Margin of error stuff, if integer rocks your boat its considerably faster.
SMT à la Hyper Threading.This is what I am curious about if that is accurate. You would think that the ghz achieved MT would be the same as ST. MT performance is good regardless, but that is rather curious.
Or memory BW mattersNah, it is new Phenom
Well, i am looking at those Prime numbers and Physics results and keep thinking latency matters
we have firestrike physics that paints a good picture, all other benchmarks show good results so unless you use it for scientific algorithms or something it should be good.Nah, it is new Phenom
Well, i am looking at those Prime numbers and Physics results and keep thinking latency matters
Y no both, go quad channel 3200C11!Or memory BW matters
Ironically, that's sort of what i was planning to use it for.we have firestrike physics that paints a good picture, all other benchmarks show good results so unless you use it for scientific algorithms or something it should be good.
Then waste no time, buy BDW-E and be done with it.Y no both, go quad channel 3200C11!
Ironically, that's sort of what i was planning to use it for.
I was not planning to spend my money until summer anyways. Early adoption issues and all that. By then we will probably have a word on Skylake-X, so i will have a choice for once on my tight budget of ~$600.Then waste no time, buy BDW-E and be done with it.
For that intel will sell you a "intel inside" T shirt and a 4k screen saver.I was not planning to spend my money until summer anyways. Early adoption issues and all that. By then we will probably have a word on Skylake-X, so i will have a choice for once on my tight budget of ~$600.
he said the exact same thingall cores vs 1 core.
2133C15 has lower latency than 2400C17...
Does anyone find it odd how there are continuously consistent goalposts in this anti-"anti-Ryzen narrative" narrative?Does anyone find it odd how there are continuously shifting goalposts in this anti-Ryzen narrative?
Cite same person saying that. You can start with me.1. It won't clock past 3.0GHz, good luck getting 3.5GHz --> It won't clock past 4.0GHz, good luck getting 4.5GHz
See above.2. It will have Sandy Bridge IPC levels or worse --> Oh it has BDW-E IPC? It's still worse than Kaby Lake
Well, "lol latency" came way earlier before "good luck getting 3000Mhz", so you are straight wrong here.3. It won't work with DDR4 >2667MHz, good luck getting 3000MHz --> AMD posts 3GHz confirmed. Oh, it works with 3000MHz, but lol latency!
Shhh, we have not seen power consumption yet.4. Perf/W is everything that matters! --> Oh it's competitive in Perf/W? We'll stop mentioning that...
Yes, Intel quads 5Ghz, that's why comparing 1700 to it is straight marketing blunder.5. Gaming performance/ST performance will suck! --> Oh, it's within 10% of Intel quads? But Intel quads 5GHz! You don't need more than 4 cores!
I'll be satisfied even with 3.7Ghz overclock, as long as it consumes less than 100 watts and memory latency is comparable to Intel's, bandwidth be damned.Frankly I'll be satisfied with 4.0GHz all-core overclock. Any more is icing on the cake (that happened to cost 1/2 of the BDW-E equivalent). I'm sure I'll be very sad that I got 85%-95% of the performance at 50% of the price.
For that i could buy 5820k+that x99 itx board like... today . Granted, cooling that would require a separate purchase and modding of the case, but whatever.For that intel will sell you a "intel inside" T shirt and a 4k screen saver.
Yes, but i meant that 2133C15 has LITERALLY lower latency than 2400C17. He meant that Ryzen posts a notably better latency result here. On which i can only note that it is done with that MSI X370 XPOWER or something board. Can't get much better than that.he said the exact same thing
It was always March 2, 28th Feb was some rumor conflating it with the other AMD event.I thought the review embargo was up today. Has that changed to March 2?