Official AMD Ryzen Benchmarks, Reviews, Prices, and Discussion

[Minkoff]

B350 chipset doesn't support multi-GPU. You need X370 for that.

B350 does not support SLI but supports Crossfire.

 

[dzoni2k2]

Hype train derailed?

http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-1700x-1700-official-gaming-benchmarks-leak/

No, you just have to understand what you are looking at.

 

[lightmanek]

No, you just have to understand what you are looking at.

No, he is angry at AMD or AMD fans, so any news showing AMD in a slight deficit to Intel is a good news for him.

Everyone is entitled to his opinion and controls their wallet. Unfortunately, some of the comments here are a bit toxic for no reason other that pure fanboism.

Just one day to full reveal and hopefully back to healthy competition on CPU front which stagnated the last few years.

 

[CHADBOGA]

Wow, Kyle Bennett on stage at an AMD event:
https://youtu.be/ZVKDNeyfpAo?t=4965

Wasn't he only a few weeks ago participating vigorously in threads on his forum, suggesting that Zen was overrated and/or was quite an unbalanced design?

Now he is publicly singing the praises of Zen?

Life comes at you fast.

 

[itsmydamnation]

Wasn't he only a few weeks ago participating vigorously in threads on his forum, suggesting that Zen was overrated and/or was quite an unbalanced design?

Now he is publicly singing the praises of Zen?

Life comes at you fast.

I only remember his P10 rants, P10 isn't bad its just not awesome.

 

[vissarix]

No, you just have to understand what you are looking at.

R7 1700X 8/16 threads 3.4/3.8ghz $400
i7 6800k 6/12threads 3.4/3.6ghz $400

the i7 is winning on 7 games, the 1700x in 3...

whats hard to understand? 2 more cores and higher frequency didnt help Ryzen beat the i7...

 

[dfk7677]

R7 1700X 8/16 threads 3.4/3.8ghz $400
i7 6800k 6/12threads 3.4/3.6ghz $400

the i7 is winning on 7 games, the 1700x in 3...

whats hard to understand? 2 more cores and higher frequency didnt help Ryzen beat the i7...

6800K comes with 100+ more expensive MBs, so 500$ compared to 400$.

 

[Gideon]

R7 1700X 8/16 threads 3.4/3.8ghz $400
i7 6800k 6/12threads 3.4/3.6ghz $400

the i7 is winning on 7 games, the 1700x in 3...

whats hard to understand? 2 more cores and higher frequency didnt help Ryzen beat the i7...

Stop trolling and flat-out lying to bait people ...

1. 6800K is 434 - 441$, while 1700X is 399$
2. 6800K has exactly the same frequencies with Turbo Boost 3 (so it isn't clocke lower).
3. It's a 6/12 processor, which is currently more than enough for those games. None of them actually tax more than 6 cores AFAIK, so 6900K would score similarily as a "huge abundant failure" it is by your standards ...

And there will be a 1600X that's actually clocked higher (not like our fake claim) and will be even cheaper, which would perform a bit better in this test-suite, but by your standards i'm sure it's a huge failure as well

 

[mikk]

https://www.chiphell.com/forum-36-1.html

My i7-7700k at 4.0 Ghz does 3242 in Fritzchess 1 thread which is 21% better than Ryzen at 4.0 Ghz. Looks like Fritzchess is abnormal for Ryzen because Cinebench looks much better, although I think Intel is in a good position with Skylake-X.

 

[guskline]

Just checked Newegg pricing:
I7-6800k-$424.99
R7-1700x-$399.99

This battle of comparisons will go on and on but at least it now appears that AMD is truly in the battle.

Once I receive my R7-1800x and Asus CGH6 mb and assemble everything with 2 RX480s in CF, I'm going to do comparisons with my venerable 5960x/GTX1080. Should be fun.

 

[Zucker2k]

R7 1700X 8/16 threads 3.4/3.8ghz $400
i7 6800k 6/12threads 3.4/3.6ghz $400

the i7 is winning on 7 games, the 1700x in 3...

whats hard to understand? 2 more cores and higher frequency didnt help Ryzen beat the i7...

If you factor in the fact that these are cherry-picked games by AMD and God knows what configurations they're running those Intel systems at, then the reviews are going to show the Intel chips in an even better light. This is for gaming though, don't know how all the other tests are going to pan out. One thing I'm particularly interested in, is the power consumption of the "65W" Ryzen 7 1700 chip. Seeing how close it performs to the 1700x at stock, I think it might remain "65W" only on paper once a few benchmarks are thrown at it. I also think one of the surprises that'll emerge from the reviews tomorrow is the power consumption numbers.

 

[dzoni2k2]

R7 1700X 8/16 threads 3.4/3.8ghz $400
i7 6800k 6/12threads 3.4/3.6ghz $400

the i7 is winning on 7 games, the 1700x in 3...

whats hard to understand? 2 more cores and higher frequency didnt help Ryzen beat the i7...

Some games scale better past 4-6 cores, some worse. Most modern games will likely scale better. Clocks are the same.

But most people don't buy CPUs just for gaming you know. In other better threaded loads 6800K is no match for 1700X.

 

[beginner99]

B350 does not support SLI but supports Crossfire.

No, B350 does not support any form of multi-gpu. Only X370 does (and X300)

http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2763-amd-chipset-comparison-x370-b350-a320

EDIT:

On-topic:

Maybe it's a good idea to wait for Skylake-X to avoid potential early adopter issues and maybe get the same for lower price. Intel won't lower current HEDT prices. They will just come out with Skylake-X and lower prices then. A 8-core skylake-X can then be available for $500 as well and then 10-core will go for $1000+ as 7950X.

 

[Gideon]

Memory Latency does seem to be a problem, Ryzen 7 1800X with DDR4 3200 CL16
L2, L3 and Mem all 2x worse than Skylake
EDIT: on the other hand L2, L3 bandwith is 2x higher (and memory BW a bit better)

sauce

Skylake in comparison:

 

[PhonakV30]

No, B350 does not support any form of multi-gpu. Only X370 does (and X300)

http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2763-amd-chipset-comparison-x370-b350-a320

EDIT:

On-topic:

Maybe it's a good idea to wait for Skylake-X to avoid potential early adopter issues and maybe get the same for lower price. Intel won't lower current HEDT prices. They will just come out with Skylake-X and lower prices then. A 8-core skylake-X can then be available for $500 as well and then 10-core will go for $1000+ as 7950X.

Wrong only X370 supports SLI also both B350/X370 support CF.that article needs to be fixed.

Here Asus Prime B350 Plus
https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/PRIME-B350-PLUS/specifications/

 

[vissarix]

No, you just have to understand what you are looking at.

Stop trolling and flat-out lying to bait people ...

1. 6800K is 434 - 441$, while 1700X is 399$
2. 6800K has exactly the same frequencies with Turbo Boost 3 (so it isn't clocke lower).
3. It's a 6/12 processor, which is currently more than enough for those games. None of them actually tax more than 6 cores AFAIK, so 6900K would score similarily as a "huge abundant failure" it is by your standards ...

And there will be a 1600X that's actually clocked higher (not like our fake claim) and will be even cheaper, which would perform a bit better in this test-suite, but by your standards i'm sure it's a huge failure as well

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01F...8-32&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=i7+6800k

$409
turbo boost 3.0 doesnt make all cores run faster then base frequency...just 1 core...

Wasnt Ryzen supposed to be a deal breaker?

And stop finding excuses, the i7 7700k would be even better on gaming and you can find it as low as $299 in some cases...
http://www.microcenter.com/product/472529/Core_i7-7700K_Kaby_Lake_42_GHz_LGA_1151_Boxed_Processor

Stop the trolling, its not allowed
Markfw
Anandtech Moderator

 

[leoneazzurro]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKx81I5P77g

 

[tamz_msc]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01F...8-32&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=i7+6800k

$409
turbo boost 3.0 doesnt make all cores run faster then base frequency...just 1 core...

Wasnt Ryzen supposed to be a deal breaker?

And stop finding excuses, the i7 7700k would be even better on gaming and you can find it as low as $299 in some cases...
http://www.microcenter.com/product/472529/Core_i7-7700K_Kaby_Lake_42_GHz_LGA_1151_Boxed_Processor

Factor in the total platform cost of X99.

And why do you seem to care only about gaming?

 

[leoneazzurro]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01F...8-32&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=i7+6800k

$409
turbo boost 3.0 doesnt make all cores run faster then base frequency...just 1 core...

Wasnt Ryzen supposed to be a deal breaker?

And stop finding excuses, the i7 7700k would be even better on gaming and you can find it as low as $299 in some cases...
http://www.microcenter.com/product/472529/Core_i7-7700K_Kaby_Lake_42_GHz_LGA_1151_Boxed_Processor

It will perform better in poorly threaded games (older/DX11). In other it will perform equal (when GPU is the bottleneck) or even better (new titles with more threads).
In the meanwhile in every MT application out there it will perform much worse.

 

[Glo.]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01F...8-32&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=i7+6800k

$409
turbo boost 3.0 doesnt make all cores run faster then base frequency...just 1 core...

Wasnt Ryzen supposed to be a deal breaker?

And stop finding excuses, the i7 7700k would be even better on gaming and you can find it as low as $299 in some cases...
http://www.microcenter.com/product/472529/Core_i7-7700K_Kaby_Lake_42_GHz_LGA_1151_Boxed_Processor

So let me get this straight. Because the CPU performs as it should be performing, and what we have thought it will perform, in games that are not scaling well with higher amount of cores, the CPU is a let down?

Your posts are rendered as trolling my friend.

 

[Atari2600]

Memory Latency does seem to be a problem, Ryzen 7 1800X with DDR4 3200 CL16
L2, L3 and Mem all 2x worse than Skylake
EDIT: on the other hand L2, L3 bandwith is 2x higher (and memory BW a bit better)

Hmmm - I wonder what the end effect of this will be.

 

[flash-gordon]

Memory Latency does seem to be a problem, Ryzen 7 1800X with DDR4 3200 CL16
L2, L3 and Mem all 2x worse than Skylake

Intel CPUs does seem to have a problem with bandwidth...

See, you/we can't separate right now what is a problem from what is a design choice.

Ryzen will reign in bandwidth, and it does while having much more interconnects for Infinity Fabric.

 

[Gideon]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01F...8-32&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=i7+6800k

$409
turbo boost 3.0 doesnt make all cores run faster then base frequency...just 1 core...

Wasnt Ryzen supposed to be a deal breaker?

And stop finding excuses, the i7 7700k would be even better on gaming and you can find it as low as $299 in some cases...
http://www.microcenter.com/product/472529/Core_i7-7700K_Kaby_Lake_42_GHz_LGA_1151_Boxed_Processor

And on how many cores does the 1700X clock to max turbo frequency?
Here is a hint (1800X all-core turbo is 3.7):

And about it being a "dealbreaker" in games? Who said that? I'm yet to see one such claim from anyone, except misguided fanboys, especially against 6-cores.
Rather it's stated, nearly universally mind you, that it should be competitive in lightly threaded workloads (subjective of course) and faster in heavily threaded ones for a similar price.

Now show me a lightly threaded game where a 1700X will presumably bottleneck you with those scores? In a sense that you have to lower some significant settings vs, say, a 7700K?

8 core Ryzen being a "dealbreaker" in games ... nice strawman you've built there to battle against.
Obviously it's being overhyped at this point of time, but don't be ridiculous.

 

[Zucker2k]

No, B350 does not support any form of multi-gpu. Only X370 does (and X300)

http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2763-amd-chipset-comparison-x370-b350-a320

EDIT:

On-topic:

Maybe it's a good idea to wait for Skylake-X to avoid potential early adopter issues and maybe get the same for lower price. Intel won't lower current HEDT prices. They will just come out with Skylake-X and lower prices then. A 8-core skylake-X can then be available for $500 as well and then 10-core will go for $1000+ as 7950X.

As a consumer, I would rather wait for SKL-X anyhow than to go Intel HEDT at this time. The current HEDT lineup is a bit unattractive, not only from a price/performance perspective. The not so stellar overclocking from the 68xx hexacore lineup and a generous consumption of power (though, I'll have to see how much power the Ryzen chips consume), all add to a quite unattractive, niche platform. SKL-X on 1151 or a new beefy but leaner gaming oriented platform catering to 6-core and 8-core chips should do nicely.

 

[zinfamous]

Why I am getting 1600x. Upgrade to an improved 8 core later.

this. 1600X until Zen++ or so.