Official AMD Ryzen Benchmarks, Reviews, Prices, and Discussion

[CentroX]

Meaning you jumped the gun and took it out of context, no one mentioned sending anything back, just annoyance at new updates and retests.

Saying 'I hope not' is not jumping any gun at all.

 

[CentroX]

It looks like AMD is issuing last minute BIOS updates to fix issues relating to memory performance (maybe latency or other issues). I feel for the reviewers having to redo their tests in the last minute. Not the best approach from AMD. AMD should have fixed their firmware issues earlier or maybe pushed their launch date a couple of weeks. The PC community has waited for 5 years for competition, so whats another 2 weeks.

AMD wants to get out of the gate as soon as possible. They know that intel is going to work hard again.

 

[looncraz]

Those look more like two solder pads that haven't soldered themselves together in the middle.

I don't see two dies, looking at the underfill.

I think it's more likely somebody cracked the die ;-)

 

[Doom2pro]

About the Major Considerations tweet, it was in reply to Jays2Cents about AMD last minute emails... It looks good, possibly BIOS/Memory related performance increases and that is what GamersNexus was elaborating on.

Sucks for reviewers as they have to rerun all their tests, but the end results must be significant enough to warrant tedious last minute reruns.

 

[lolfail9001]

I think it's more likely somebody cracked the die ;-)

Eh, dunno, die looked intact, and i trust Roman to distinguish cracked die from intact one after 2 failed attempts.

 

[Allio]

It looks like AMD is issuing last minute BIOS updates to fix issues relating to memory performance (maybe latency or other issues). I feel for the reviewers having to redo their tests in the last minute. Not the best approach from AMD. AMD should have fixed their firmware issues earlier or maybe pushed their launch date a couple of weeks. The PC community has waited for 5 years for competition, so whats another 2 weeks.

Can you imagine the carnage in this thread if AMD made a last-minute decision to push the NDA lift date back two weeks?

 

[krumme]

AMD wants to get out of the gate as soon as possible. They know that intel is going to work hard again.

Amd is moving at an extreme pace now.

There is tons of passion and a sense of alertness at the same time. A creative burning platform. A result from beeing nearly extint, getting new competent and passioned management, and beeing time constrained because time to market matters a lot when there is not unlimited funds.

Its not toyota product we get but so what?
My kd ratio in bf1 sucks but i win. I hate snipers and campers and love when people push w and take out the tanks.

I expect and demand much in the next years.

 

[tulx]

Can you imagine the carnage in this thread if AMD made a last-minute decision to push the NDA lift date back two weeks?

I would die.

 

[Magic Hate Ball]

Can you imagine the carnage in this thread if AMD made a last-minute decision to push the NDA lift date back two weeks?

But my chip has already hit Fedex...

 

[Enigma-]

The PC community has waited for 5 years for competition, so whats another 2 weeks.

That would be all people's nails going from short to gone.

 

[raghu78]

Centrox whatever Intel has in the pipeline for the next 2-3 years will not change irrespective of how Ryzen performs. A modern CPU core takes 4-5 years from design to validation to tapeout to engineering samples to production. In fact the design of the next tock Icelake on 10nm is probably finalized at this point in time. Intel is more waiting on the 10nm process yield improvement and process maturity to launch Icelake in late 2018/early 2019. Whatever AMD does today will only affect Intel CPUs beyond 2020. Obviously a competitive AMD will push Intel to innovate faster. But the results of that will only be seen in the next decade.

 

[dzoni2k2]

Amd is moving at an extreme pace now.

There is tons of passion and a sense of alertness at the same time. A creative burning platform. A result from beeing nearly extint, getting new competent and passioned management, and beeing time constrained because time to market matters a lot when there is not unlimited funds.

Its not toyota product we get but so what?
My kd ratio in bf1 sucks but i win. I hate snipers and campers and love when people push w and take out the tanks.

I expect and demand much in the next years.

That was very inspiring. Almost DrDisrespect level of inspiring.

 

[dnavas]

Very likely reviewers are being told to test with 3200 CL14 memory instead of the provided 3000 kits.

But, as someone who picked up 3000cl14 on sale two weeks ago, that makes me nervous. Something wrong with 3000?
[Although, looking at cl14 RAM prices on newegg right now, holy jehosaphat! Those prices are insane right now.]

 

[formulav8]

Not bad news as much as early adoption mess.

Didn't x99 have their own issues that required progressive bios updates, especially for ram? I'm sure the same is going on for AMD. A lot of work involved in a new uArch and platform for sure.

 

[unseenmorbidity]

It looks like AMD is issuing last minute BIOS updates to fix issues relating to memory performance (maybe latency or other issues). I feel for the reviewers having to redo their tests in the last minute. Not the best approach from AMD. AMD should have fixed their firmware issues earlier or maybe pushed their launch date a couple of weeks. The PC community has waited for 5 years for competition, so whats another 2 weeks.

Yah, those poor tech reviewers and all their free hardware. Let me go get a tiny violin and play it.

Didn't x99 have their own issues that required progressive bios updates, especially for ram? I'm sure the same is going on for AMD. A lot of work involved in a new uArch and platform for sure.

Yes. Any new architecture will have issues at release.

 

[looncraz]

Hmm a new "cheat" BIOS popped up on "others" OS selection (FR) page for Crosshair VI.
https://www.asus.com/fr/Motherboards/ROG-CROSSHAIR-VI-HERO/HelpDesk_Download/

CPC HW calls it a "cheat" BIOS for some reason. It is supplied at the last minute by Asus and AMD. Likely rYzes the scores hence CPC calls it "cheat". They are so salty it is crazy

edit: Performance bias option

Zut alors! Le fichier de chipset AMD... c'est 1.3GB!

EDIT: Sorry, didn't realize I wrote that in French.

Dannn! The AMD chipset file... it's 1.3GB!

 

[VenomXTF]

But, as someone who picked up 3000cl14 on sale two weeks ago, that makes me nervous. Something wrong with 3000?
[Although, looking at cl14 RAM prices on newegg right now, holy jehosaphat! Those prices are insane right now.]

No, you should be fine. 3200 CL14 is probably the fastest while being stable without pushing the IMC too hard (requiring more voltage). I only heard of there possibly being an issue with odd timings (example CL13/CL15). Find out tomorrow for sure...

 

[Mockingbird]

Can you imagine the carnage in this thread if AMD made a last-minute decision to push the NDA lift date back two weeks?

It would be incredibility stupid because any Joe Blow who had pre-ordered Ryzen would be able to write a review despite never running a benchmark before in his life.

His review would them be read by millions of people because nothing better would be out there for another two weeks.

 

[lobz]

Say what now?!?

seriously... why do you bother?

 

[Justinbaileyman]

Really?? are we all back on this memory issue again? I am pretty sure everyone has already seen the video on youtube showing 4 sticks of DDR4 3400 running just fine.Not sure if the video got pulled down or not but if its still up maybe someone should link it to this thread. because everyone is going back and forth and its confusing the you know what out of me and many others.So are we safe with 4 sticks up to 3600 now or not? or do we have to wait till tomorrow to find out for sure?

 

[inf64]

Looks like a bios update:
https://www.reddit.com/user/onotech

Yeah, it's been rough on my end.

I finally finished testing my 1800X & 1700 (1700X video coming later because of time restraints) and I just got an email about a bios update. Gonna be a long night

It cannot be a bad thing regarding performance or else AMD wouldn't have bothered putting all of these people thru additional labor.

 

[looncraz]

wow new Bios just dropped for the crosshair hero. It says Beta bios also.

Now if only I could get the manual...

 

[IEC]

Now if only I could get the manual...

I want the board... 1800X is literally on its way to me but not a peep from Newegg on the Asus C6H. Except release date listed as... Mar 9

 

[hotstocks]

The question is not going to be running 3200 or 3400 the question is at what timings will be 100% stable?

 

[thepaleobiker]

[QUOTE="unseenmorbidity] Yah, those poor tech reviewers and all their free hardware. Let me go get a tiny violin and play it.[/QUOTE]

I chuckled hard reading that