Meaningless unless one is getting touchy about semantics like a see a lot of people doing here. Ryzen is generating a lot of well-deserved interest, but I think it's best to be calm and not read bad intentions into relatively innocuous statements.
Meaningless unless one is getting touchy about semantics like a see a lot of people doing here. Ryzen is generating a lot of well-deserved interest, but I think it's best to be calm and not read bad intentions into relatively innocuous statements.I think the only one you can really try and claim that is the 1700 and that's assuming that it cant clock as high as 1700x or 1800x because it would be a chip that wasn't good enough for server from a clocking/power perspective and wasn't good enough for high clocks. Otherwise every chip that isn't a 7700k, 6950k or 2699 is a reject and at that point the word is kind of meaningless.
Can you just cut the crap? honestly? /Sebastian Vettle, The chips that we the highend desktop like are actually different to the chips Server market want.
We want the high clocking high leakage 4.5ghz + capable chips. 32 core Server wants the low leakage, low power in 2-3ghz target range.
So no not server rejects, your just wrong.
First time in a decade I am excited about an AMD CPU launch. I can't wait for tomorrow to see what they have been working on for the past 5 years.
Will AT actually have a review up? Or will their head story tomorrow morning be a review of a new budget cell phone released in India?
I case anyone hasn't been following r/amd https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5x04ll/ryzen_1700x_cpuz_more_tests_coming/
Wow. 1700X @ stock, air cooled, beating my 6700K in ST performance on CPU-Z. Is this real life?
Will AT actually have a review up? Or will their head story tomorrow morning be a review of a new budget cell phone released in India?
what if we want 500+ fps? https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5x04ll/ryzen_1700x_cpuz_more_tests_coming/I can't believe there are persons expecting AMD to overtake Intel on full performance. That's some wacky expectations. To truly go from basically the last in many things to the highest in one Gen with AMD's budget is quite the unrealistic expectation is it not?
AMD will end up truly competitive, NOT performance leader. Why do people keep raising the performance bar to the top?
When it comes to price/performance, then yes, AMD will be on the high end of that list. NOT outright performance king though.
I hope I'm wrong on even performance king, but I think I'm not. Especially the clock speed AMD's cpu's are shipping at.
If you simply need over 200-300fps @ 720p then buy Intel.
If you want to game with good frames, but still want to encode, broadcast, twitch, and whatever your gaming situation, in real-time at the same time, you may want to consider Ryzen.
Not only passmarks, that's the point. Every single latency measurement out there sits far behind. I mean, sure, a certain folks could be right and that's just software failing to detect it properly. But then they better bring evidence of memory performance in operations per second.What words have i eaten, we dont know enough about Zen latency yet, Passmark reports my ivb random latency as 74ns. Passmarks latency single click test reports latency as only twice my L3 latency (20 something), AIDA reports it @ 50 something ( at work so i cant look). if i was to guess i would say the core or the L2 perfetcher is matching passmarks read pattern wouldn't you?
AMD does not particularly care about WATTS per mm on consumer SKUs, just look at the clocks. So i guess those are the server rejects, after all.Looks like you haven't been keeping up with issues in silicon production, WATTS per mm, power hot spots, etc
Does not stop either AMD or Intel from cutting those from same basic design. Evidence? GMI links taking half the die and Broadwell-E being literally a server reject.The chips that we the highend desktop like are actually different to the chips Server market want.
Looks like Ian is hard at work...
https://twitter.com/IanCutress?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author
Scroll down that twitter feed and there is a curious toy Intel is giving out to the visitors in MWC.
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http://technabob.com/blog/2011/10/26/peas-usb-hub/Scroll down that twitter feed and there is a curious toy Intel is giving out to the visitors in MWC.
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Can someone explain the "Likes Received" thing to me? I see people with thousands of messages an only a few hundred likes, then there are people like me with nearly equal counts... does the counter reset for one and not the other? Or were all the "Likes" reset at some point and everyone started over?
There's this "rent a like" thread in off topic section of the forums, anyone partaking gets a free likeCan someone explain the "Likes Received" thing to me? I see people with thousands of messages and only a few hundred likes, then there are people like me with nearly equal counts... does the counter reset for one and not the other? Or were all the "Likes" reset at some point and everyone started over?
The Likes system started with the move to Xenforo. You'll see some users with a lot of likes because the system is easily gamed (there's one or two free likes threads in Off Topic), but it's also rather easy to garnish likes in the other forums, too.
It's rather meaningless, but it's also harmless. I guess it's more useful in the technical forums since a good answer to a question gets more likes.
The users with few likes either haven't been active lately or are active in threads where likes aren't that active. Or they don't post comments that are easily likable. Probably a combination. It's definitely easier to post pithy, witty replies and get likes.
There's this "rent a like" thread in off topic section of the forums, anyone partaking gets a free like