whats interesting is that the lower FPS is not due to a CPU, as the CPU utilization on Ryzen was nowhere near 100% on any given thread. As suggested, the games are not optimized.
I'm just going of CB15 where my kaby gets just over 5 MC ratio and Zen get just under 10 with twice the cores. Any way Zen is half baked right now. Once it's ready for release we'll see how it does.It has SMT that's superior in throughput in most cases to Skylake SMT. For some reason however, it kills performance in games specifically.
Watching the games actually being played makes the differences seem much less important. Seeing those difference on charts in the form of mins and averages makes it LOOK far, far worse that it ends up being in the real world. One thing to note is when turning details to low, it can remove some CPU load due to less details being processed. Not to nitpick, but I would have left the details cranked and dropped the AA and used the 720p like he did. Still though, this is a good showing for the 1700. I say clock the thing to 4ghz, throw in some 3200+ ram and watch it go. For $330, that chip is pretty ridiculous considering it matches a 6900K in other metrics. I feel like my head is going to explode.
More specifically I was intending to convey that equal loading on the threads as being a determinate of "good threading."
It gets consistently 10, or above, while Intel HEDT are all below 10, sometimes Ryzen will go above 11 with little effort ~I'm just going of CB15 where my kaby gets just over 5 MC ratio and Zen get just under 10 with twice the cores. Any way Zen is half baked right now. Once it's ready for release we'll see how it does.
HEDT is not Skylake yet. Skylake X eight core will be ~10, but with a Skylake ST score. It will come at a price though. Under $1000 I'd bet.It gets consistently 10, or above, while Intel HEDT are all below 10, sometimes Ryzen will go above 11 with little effort ~
has anyone seen any report if the Ryzen chips overclock higher on 6c12t (by disabling two cores from Bios, if that is at all possible.)
Base on the Stilts results, 3.5 Ghz is the sweet spot for 8 core, but I am hoping that will improve with less core in the equation.
Why is Linus only testing 4K?
We don't know that yet, but I wouldn't bet against that possibility, the point is AMD's SMT seems to be working better than Intel (not every program though) just on their first try.HEDT is not Skylake yet. Skylake X will be ~10, but with a Skylake ST score. It will come at a price though. Under $1000 I'd bet.
Didn't you see the memo AMD sent to reviewers?Why is Linus only testing 4K?
From the reports of BIOS updates bringing huge perf gains in games its clear that AMD rushed this launch to meet the Q1 commitment to the market/investors. Its quite embarassing that a company which spends 4+ years in rigorously developing a clean sheet design CPU architecture rushes it at the last step and makes a fool of itself and hurts its own cause in inital benchmarks. Hopefully by the time Ryzen 5 launches the BIOS updates and Windows updates are all in place and the platform is more robust. Oh AMD why won't you ever learn.
Not sure if this was posted already
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/746710-ryzens-high-cache-latency-probably-explained/
AMD hadn't sent us a Ryzen before launch. As soon as we can get one, we will fix the L2+L3 benchmarks.
Just took the liberty of using AT slides to showcase what ZEN could do in servers
At one third of the price and half the TDP vs Core i7 6900K
or
At the same price and same TDP vs Core i7 6700
No words, only pictures are enough
And all that at 1/10 of Intels R&D, that is amazing.
What is more amazing is that Intel didnt managed the same even using a smaller node going from 22nm (8-core Haswell-E) to 14nm (8-Core Broadwell-E).
In regards to gaming ASUS in particular, and MSI to some extent. It explains why reviewers such as Joker, Crit, UFDiciple, and TechDeals had far better gaming performance.
Golem.de in Germany had this to say in regards to their MSI motherboard.
https://translate.google.co.uk/tran...ndlich-zurueck-1703-125996-4.html&prev=search
Watching the games actually being played makes the differences seem much less important. Seeing those difference on charts in the form of mins and averages makes it LOOK far, far worse than it ends up being in the real world. One thing to note is when turning details to low, it can remove some CPU load due to less details being processed. Not to nitpick, but I would have left the details cranked and dropped the AA and used the 720p like he did. Still though, this is a good showing for the 1700. I say clock the thing to 4ghz, throw in some 3200+ ram and watch it go. For $330, that chip is pretty ridiculous considering it matches a 6900K in other metrics. I feel like my head is going to explode.
This has happened to Intel as well. Clean sheet designs and new platforms ALWAYS have growing pains.