*Official*Anand going to buy a Mac?! EDIT: He bought one!*Confirmed*

[Martin]

Originally posted by: mpitts

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
One of the MAJOR overlooked advantages to the Mac platform has to do with support for less-than-savvy users. No virus problems, spyware, IE exploits, homepage hijacking...

Exactly. If everyone used a Mac, I wouldn't be half as busy as I am. Removing spyware and fixing IE problems are half of my business.

If everyone used a mac, all the viruses and exploits would be written to target a mac.

 

[mpitts]

Originally posted by: arod

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
One of the MAJOR overlooked advantages to the Mac platform has to do with support for less-than-savvy users. No virus problems, spyware, IE exploits, homepage hijacking...

Yet. The day will come.

If it hasn't yet, then when will it? I mean, viruses have plagues PCs for years. IE exploits too.

 

[mpitts]

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak

Originally posted by: mpitts

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
One of the MAJOR overlooked advantages to the Mac platform has to do with support for less-than-savvy users. No virus problems, spyware, IE exploits, homepage hijacking...

Exactly. If everyone used a Mac, I wouldn't be half as busy as I am. Removing spyware and fixing IE problems are half of my business.

If everyone used a mac, all the viruses and exploits would be written to target a mac.

Sure they would.

That is why I bought a Powerbook. So I wouldn't have to deal with that crap. I deal with it enough every day.

 

[bcterps]

I've been thinking about buying a Mac for a while, just to play around with one. They are just so darn expensive. Is there anything with decent specs priced around $500-700?

 

[Skiguy411]

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak

Originally posted by: mpitts

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
One of the MAJOR overlooked advantages to the Mac platform has to do with support for less-than-savvy users. No virus problems, spyware, IE exploits, homepage hijacking...

Exactly. If everyone used a Mac, I wouldn't be half as busy as I am. Removing spyware and fixing IE problems are half of my business.

If everyone used a mac, all the viruses and exploits would be written to target a mac.

Exactly. No one wants to write exploits or viruses for mac because not alot of people use them. Its not that windows is less secure, its just that there are alot more people wanting to screw over windows more than macs because of the amount of users windows has.

 

[CraigRT]

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
What purpose does having a MAC as a second computer serve?

What can you do on it that you can't do on a PC?

duh, it's obvious, you can buy a more cosmetically appealing product for 3x the price!

 

[PowerMacG5]

Originally posted by: CraigRT

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
What purpose does having a MAC as a second computer serve?

What can you do on it that you can't do on a PC?

duh, it's obvious, you can buy a more cosmetically appealing product for 3x the price!

Uhm, for programmers, Mac offers a significant advantage. Free tools for development (gcc, and the Xcode IDE). Also for the Unix buffs, and more tech savvy people Mac OS X is great. But... Mac OS X is very good for the normal user. Mac OS X is more user friendly, and is user oriented (not program oriented like windows). Which means the user controls the experience, and nearly everything about the interface is customizable in every way.

 

[Electric Amish]

Originally posted by: Marauder911

Originally posted by: CraigRT

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
What purpose does having a MAC as a second computer serve?

What can you do on it that you can't do on a PC?

duh, it's obvious, you can buy a more cosmetically appealing product for 3x the price!

Uhm, for programmers, Mac offers a significant advantage. Free tools for development (gcc, and the Xcode IDE). Also for the Unix buffs, and more tech savvy people Mac OS X is great. But... Mac OS X is very good for the normal user. Mac OS X is more user friendly, and is user oriented (not program oriented like windows). Which means the user controls the experience, and nearly everything about the interface is customizable in every way.

You can get the same thing for a PC.

As for the IE exploits, I don't use IE so I don't need to worry about it.

 

[InlineFive]

Originally posted by: CraigRT

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
What purpose does having a MAC as a second computer serve?

What can you do on it that you can't do on a PC?

duh, it's obvious, you can buy a more cosmetically appealing product for 3x the price!

With all the people scrapping their G5s lately you might be able to get a case on eBay.

-Por

 

[Eug]

It's official - Anand HAS gotten a Mac.

I wonder what he got.

 

[sash1]

Mac owns

 

[bcterps]

Originally posted by: Eug
It's official - Anand HAS gotten a Mac. I wonder what he got.

Hmm, my guess is a Powerbook G4

 

[Eug]

Originally posted by: benchiu

Originally posted by: Eug
It's official - Anand HAS gotten a Mac. I wonder what he got.

Hmm, my guess is a Powerbook G4

I'm sure he'll tell us in his blog soon enough, but I'm thinking it may either be a PowerBook G4 or else a dual G5 Power Mac. If the latter, it's a shame the dual G5 2.4 isn't out yet. The dual G5 2.0 is kinda getting long in the tooth. My estimate is that a dual G5 2.0 performs on average like a dual Xeon 2.8 (although gaming performance would be an exception). The dual G5 2.0 was announced last June (shipping late summer/early fall 2003), so it's about time for an update.

 

[jhu]

he should get an sgi tzero. those things look aerodynamic

 

[Eug]

Originally posted by: jhu
he should get an sgi tzero. those things look aerodynamic

It's Tezro, and those things look even more fruitified than the original iMac, but in a bad way.

Anyways, if people think the Power Mac is expensive, I wonder what they'd think about the Tezro. I think they start at something like $20000 for an 800 MHz single CPU machine, and it's not as if he'd even be able to run Word on it. ie. They can't be used as personal computers. Furthermore, with CPU-intensive apps, IIRC a recent Intel or Mac desktop will wipe the floor with a Tezro. The Tezro's main benefit is its humungous bandwidth.

 

[RGN]

Originally posted by: Marauder911

Originally posted by: RGN
Good for him. I've got a 12" TiBook that is just awesome. There are two things that amaze me about it:

1) When I close the lid, it goes to sleep. When I open the lid it almost instantly wakes up. Everytime.
2) The built-in wireless support of 10.3 is awesome. I roam from my house to the unsecure work network, to the LEAP encrypted internal net and never have issues. It is nearly transparent, prompting me only for my LEAP password. Never screws up, just works.


I also have a custom built G4. It is a good machine, but I like the PC as a desktop. Software compatibility is a must, even for those of use that try not to live in a MS world.

Little pet peeve. The only TiBook was the 15 inch, and they stopped making those around September. A lot of people go, oh I got a 12" TiBook, or 17" TiBook. !2 and 17 inch only come in Aluminum, never in Titanium.

Yeah, I know. Get over it. The correct name for the whole line is PowerBook.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Originally posted by: mpitts

Originally posted by: arod

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
One of the MAJOR overlooked advantages to the Mac platform has to do with support for less-than-savvy users. No virus problems, spyware, IE exploits, homepage hijacking...

Yet. The day will come.

If it hasn't yet, then when will it? I mean, viruses have plagues PCs for years. IE exploits too.

The moment more than 10 people start using a Mac.

 

[mpitts]

Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1

Originally posted by: mpitts

Originally posted by: arod

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
One of the MAJOR overlooked advantages to the Mac platform has to do with support for less-than-savvy users. No virus problems, spyware, IE exploits, homepage hijacking...

Yet. The day will come.

If it hasn't yet, then when will it? I mean, viruses have plagues PCs for years. IE exploits too.

The moment more than 10 people start using a Mac.

Right.

 

[Ornery]

"... I'm looking at the Dual G5 2GHz and throwing some additional DDR400 in it..."

That means it will be a desktop. I can save Anand the trouble of buying it and dicking around with it for a month. It will be rated 1 star out of 5 on bang for the buck, but be VERY pretty doing it. So, what else is new?

 

[Eug]

Originally posted by: Ornery
"... I'm looking at the Dual G5 2GHz and throwing some additional DDR400 in it..."

That means it will be a desktop. I can save Anand the trouble of buying it and dicking around with it for a month. It will be rated 1 star out of 5 on bang for the buck, but be VERY pretty doing it. So, what else is new?

If you're looking for a gaming machine then the Power Mac is not for you.

If you're looking for a beautiful end user machine, then a Mac may be for you.

If you're looking for *nix machine with lots of floating point speed, then the Power Mac may be for you too.

eg. Pixar's Renderman seems to like the Power Mac quite a bit in benches (shorter is better):

Xeon 2.8 with ICC - 4 mins 5 seconds
G5 2.0 with GCC - 3 mins 36 seconds

But of course that's just one test. From what I've seen, on average a single G5 2.0 performs like a P4 2.8, esp. when you're talking about scientific *nix apps. And if you want the feature set of the G5 Power Mac, dual Xeons don't come cheap.

By the way, Anand hasn't officially told us what he got yet. Hmm...

 

[Eug]

He got the dual G5 Power Mac.

 

[manly]

Originally posted by: Ornery
"... I'm looking at the Dual G5 2GHz and throwing some additional DDR400 in it..."

That means it will be a desktop. I can save Anand the trouble of buying it and dicking around with it for a month. It will be rated 1 star out of 5 on bang for the buck, but be VERY pretty doing it. So, what else is new?

That's ironic coming from the Sony DSC-F717 + Memory Stick Pro fanboy.

As Eug suggested, it's not insignficant to build your own Xeon workstation, not to mention value-added such as iLife '04 or Xcode.

 

[Adul]

Originally posted by: mpitts

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak

Originally posted by: mpitts

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
One of the MAJOR overlooked advantages to the Mac platform has to do with support for less-than-savvy users. No virus problems, spyware, IE exploits, homepage hijacking...

Exactly. If everyone used a Mac, I wouldn't be half as busy as I am. Removing spyware and fixing IE problems are half of my business.

If everyone used a mac, all the viruses and exploits would be written to target a mac.

Sure they would.

That is why I bought a Powerbook. So I wouldn't have to deal with that crap. I deal with it enough every day.

My solution was easier then that.

I stop using IE and outlook all together.

Thunderbird + Firefox

 

[JoeKing]

Final Cut Pro.....puts all PC video editing software (even Avid) to shame.

Just with I could afford a decent mac laptop....$2999 WTF!!

 

[Ornery]

Originally posted by: manly

Originally posted by: Ornery
"... I'm looking at the Dual G5 2GHz and throwing some additional DDR400 in it..."

That means it will be a desktop. I can save Anand the trouble of buying it and dicking around with it for a month. It will be rated 1 star out of 5 on bang for the buck, but be VERY pretty doing it. So, what else is new?

That's ironic coming from the Sony DSC-F717 + Memory Stick Pro fanboy.

As Eug suggested, it's not insignficant to build your own Xeon workstation, not to mention value-added such as iLife '04 or Xcode.

Don't be so fvckin' retarded. Last month, with the $100.00 rebate, the F717 was the best bang for the buck, prosumer camera out there, BAR NONE! I NEVER suggested buying any GD memory stick pro, that's ludicrous. The 256MB memory sticks are a paltry 16% more expensive than a CF card, and download from the camera to any PC via USB cable with no driver or software install, and no need for a memory card reader.


The damage on Apple's top of the line system? $2999. Luckily, with a student discount it's down to $2699. But there's no getting around the fact that this is one expensive system.

In the usual Apple style, the fit and finish of the packaging is superb - but for a ~$3K computer these days you'd expect that. - Text


Yeah, the F717's got style, the fit and finish of the packaging is superb so I guess it's worth a big chunk of extra cash anyway! I'm all about style, fit and finish you know.