Official Astros vs. Cardinals NLCS thread!

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SaltBoy

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Great... the official thread of the NLCS has turned into an S&M lovefest. :roll:
 
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Originally posted by: SaltBoy
Great... the official thread of the NLCS has turned into an S&M lovefest. :roll:

I have a couple of nipple restrainers and a pair of assless leather chaps with your name on 'em if you are ready to join in

j/k

GO STROS!!!!!
 

ElFenix

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astros are the only NL team to win its season series against the cards.
 

SP33Demon

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Go Stros! Stros vs Red Sox would be a sensational WS! Think of the matchups: Schilling vs Rocket, Oswalt vs Pedro! Both have big bats in their lineups!
 

SaltBoy

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Go Stros! Stros vs Red Sox would be a sensational WS! Think of the matchups: Schilling vs Rocket, Oswalt vs Pedro! Both have big bats in their lineups!
You know what sucks is that Pettitte is out. Just think - Schilling vs. Rocket, Pettitte vs. Pedro. Heck it'd be the BoSox vs. Yankees all over again! LOL

 

cmdavid

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Go Pujols!!!
i dont know about the astros, they're going to have to step it up to beat the consistent cardinals...
 

Ilmater

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
astros are the only NL team to win its season series against the cards.
And I hope they're happy with their regular season wins. That won't happen again in the post-season.

More importantly, I'm wondering why people seem so blinded by team loyalty that they totally disregard the flaws of their team. I don't care if the Astros POUND the Cards and win in 4 games, you still won't convince me they're a better team than the Cardinals. It's like last weekend with the Seahawks game. Yeah, we won, but the people that were on the Rams' message board proclaiming how good we were before that game and how we were going to beat them are just stupid. We were travelling to Seattle against a team that has DOMINATED both sides of the football this season, and there were guys on the message boards talking about how terribly the headlines were going to rip on the Seahawks Monday morning.

You can call them Nostradamus, but I'll call them lucky and ignorant.

Similarly, I will refrain from telling everyone how badly we're going to destroy the Astros and just let you Astro fans know that we are clearly the better team and will prove that throughout the next week.
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: Ilmater
Originally posted by: ElFenix
astros are the only NL team to win its season series against the cards.
And I hope they're happy with their regular season wins. That won't happen again in the post-season.

More importantly, I'm wondering why people seem so blinded by team loyalty that they totally disregard the flaws of their team. I don't care if the Astros POUND the Cards and win in 4 games, you still won't convince me they're a better team than the Cardinals. It's like last weekend with the Seahawks game. Yeah, we won, but the people that were on the Rams' message board proclaiming how good we were before that game and how we were going to beat them are just stupid. We were travelling to Seattle against a team that has DOMINATED both sides of the football this season, and there were guys on the message boards talking about how terribly the headlines were going to rip on the Seahawks Monday morning.

You can call them Nostradamus, but I'll call them lucky and ignorant.

Similarly, I will refrain from telling everyone how badly we're going to destroy the Astros and just let you Astro fans know that we are clearly the better team and will prove that throughout the next week.
Do you deny that Clemens/Oswalt are a better one two punch than Williams/Marquis? This is a huge advantage for Houston, the only good news for St.L is that they won't see Clemens/Oswalt for the first two game b/c of the long series with ATL. So on paper, chalk up starting pitchers to Houston. Both teams have big bats, so that's a wash. Houston's closer Lidge is 10X better than anyone except Gagne and Wagner in the NL, so chalk that one up for the Stros. Overall bullpen slight edge goes to St.L. About the only other things St.L has is home field and a better defense. So chalk up 3 advantages to 2. Either way, good pitching should beat good hitting so I give Houston the edge. Should be a great series nonetheless.
 
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Originally posted by: Ilmater
Originally posted by: ElFenix
astros are the only NL team to win its season series against the cards.
And I hope they're happy with their regular season wins. That won't happen again in the post-season.

More importantly, I'm wondering why people seem so blinded by team loyalty that they totally disregard the flaws of their team. I don't care if the Astros POUND the Cards and win in 4 games, you still won't convince me they're a better team than the Cardinals. It's like last weekend with the Seahawks game. Yeah, we won, but the people that were on the Rams' message board proclaiming how good we were before that game and how we were going to beat them are just stupid. We were travelling to Seattle against a team that has DOMINATED both sides of the football this season, and there were guys on the message boards talking about how terribly the headlines were going to rip on the Seahawks Monday morning.

You can call them Nostradamus, but I'll call them lucky and ignorant.

Similarly, I will refrain from telling everyone how badly we're going to destroy the Astros and just let you Astro fans know that we are clearly the better team and will prove that throughout the next week.

I'm not sure that it is blind loyalty. The Astros faults are obvious. Bullpen depth is lacking, and the starting rotation is torn up.

Having said that, the Cards are missing Carpenter, and Scott Rolen has done nothing in the postseason.

It should be a great series. The best team will win a 7 game series. The best team always does. To deny that would betray your own blind loyalty and ignorance.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: Ilmater
Originally posted by: ElFenix
astros are the only NL team to win its season series against the cards.
And I hope they're happy with their regular season wins. That won't happen again in the post-season.

More importantly, I'm wondering why people seem so blinded by team loyalty that they totally disregard the flaws of their team. I don't care if the Astros POUND the Cards and win in 4 games, you still won't convince me they're a better team than the Cardinals. It's like last weekend with the Seahawks game. Yeah, we won, but the people that were on the Rams' message board proclaiming how good we were before that game and how we were going to beat them are just stupid. We were travelling to Seattle against a team that has DOMINATED both sides of the football this season, and there were guys on the message boards talking about how terribly the headlines were going to rip on the Seahawks Monday morning.

You can call them Nostradamus, but I'll call them lucky and ignorant.

Similarly, I will refrain from telling everyone how badly we're going to destroy the Astros and just let you Astro fans know that we are clearly the better team and will prove that throughout the next week.

i post a fact and get a big diatribe in response. nice.
 
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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Ilmater
Originally posted by: ElFenix
astros are the only NL team to win its season series against the cards.
And I hope they're happy with their regular season wins. That won't happen again in the post-season.

More importantly, I'm wondering why people seem so blinded by team loyalty that they totally disregard the flaws of their team. I don't care if the Astros POUND the Cards and win in 4 games, you still won't convince me they're a better team than the Cardinals. It's like last weekend with the Seahawks game. Yeah, we won, but the people that were on the Rams' message board proclaiming how good we were before that game and how we were going to beat them are just stupid. We were travelling to Seattle against a team that has DOMINATED both sides of the football this season, and there were guys on the message boards talking about how terribly the headlines were going to rip on the Seahawks Monday morning.

You can call them Nostradamus, but I'll call them lucky and ignorant.

Similarly, I will refrain from telling everyone how badly we're going to destroy the Astros and just let you Astro fans know that we are clearly the better team and will prove that throughout the next week.

i post a fact and get a big diatribe in response. nice.

I also appreciate how he is "refraining from telling everyone how badly we're going to be the Astros" :roll:

The post in and of it self does that. If you are going to troll, troll... just be honest about it.
 

jm0ris0n

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Ok, I am thinking about spending ~90 bucks on a pair of tickets via ebay for saturday's game...Anyway I am newer to following baseball and the fact that the Astros might make the World Seies can not be overlooked.

Anyway anyone have an 'educated' guess or past experience with how much a ticket in the upper level (4xx level seats) would set me back ?

The NLDS was $15 a ticket, NLCS was $30 a ticket. Should I count on this doubling trend to continue, or will they be around 40-50 ? I need to know cause I don'thave 200+ bucks to spend on two games !
 

SmoochyTX

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Kent just hit a 2-run homer for the Astros in the top of the 4th - Astros 4, Cards, 2

Go Stros!
 

ToBeMe

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I live in St. Louis and IMHO, Cards better come back down to earth........they are to busy deciding who'll be tougher to beat.............Sox or Yanks and have already looked past the Stros..................that was evident yesterday when they asked about the last series sweep.....................Larussa rightly answered....."but wasn't the Central division already decided on the 18th?" but still..........they looked VERY flat against the Dodgers..........................
 

ToBeMe

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Of course I could be wrong and they could be right I guess.............

It's going to be a short series if Edmonds, Rolen, Renteria start hitting again.......

Their both great teams but that Card line up...if healthy & hitting is lethal and the Astros pen has got to be tired..............
 
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