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Graywar

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see when i plug in my usb 2.0 external drive it says that a high speed usb device is plugged into an non-high speed usb port. why is this?
i have xp and have downloaded sp1 and all other updates. i also downloaded the usb 2 file usb20_wxp from asus.com but what do i do with it?
 

XRdirtHead

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Jan 14, 2001
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I have to RA one of my mobos. That SMBus Writebyte failure means "send it back".
Newbie question below: (sorry)
Mobo needs to go back so does that mean clean off the cpu and heatsink and get some arctic silver? (always just use stock heatsink,fan and pad)
I read the directions and cringed so I just go with the stock stuff.
If I have to go the arctic silver route maybe I should upgrade the heatsink and fan...any suggestions....thanks
 

floccus

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You can get some thermal epoxy or another pad. 2cooltek has a nice selection of stuff so look for what you want. I usually use a thermal pad because most all thermal pastes dry out after a certain period and have to be reapplied. The thermal pad is a one time deal but for most systems I don't remove the HSF after the build so its the best solution.

If you want to *upgrade* to better cooling, then you can use the thermal epoxy to provide a nice solution that doesn't need to be redone in 6-8 months.
 

DanStp

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I am still trying to figure out my USB 2.0 scanner problems. I went out and bought a SIIG 5 port USB 2.0 controller card. I seems to install fine, but doesn't work either. I am now down to one thing..............the USB cable.......... could they have put a USB 1.1 cable in with the scanner, and could that be the reason for my problems? I will try to get one and update this tommorrow AM. Remember the scanner worked on a USB 1.1 system, but is not reconized by my ASUS board or the SIIG Scanner.
 

floccus

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Mar 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: DanStp
I am still trying to figure out my USB 2.0 scanner problems. I went out and bought a SIIG 5 port USB 2.0 controller card. I seems to install fine, but doesn't work either. I am now down to one thing..............the USB cable.......... could they have put a USB 1.1 cable in with the scanner, and could that be the reason for my problems? I will try to get one and update this tommorrow AM. Remember the scanner worked on a USB 1.1 system, but is not reconized by my ASUS board or the SIIG Scanner.

Ok, I should really stop trying to help people when I'm mad, but I have to sound off on this one, I'll try to be nice . I can't see a single thing that would make your system not work with the scanner. USB2.0 will default to the 1.1 standard if it needs to. I'm pretty darn sure the cable won't be a difference. I told you the ports were fine and buying a USB hub would be a waste of $$ (If I didn't say this then I at least thought it ). Anyway, something is probably wrong with the drivers. Not the USB interface.... Ok, I'm venting now, so this is ending...
 

Schadenfroh

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what is the differance to the differant revisions? is it worth breaking my current to get a revision 2.0
 

XRdirtHead

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If you want to *upgrade* to better cooling, then you can use the thermal epoxy to provide a nice solution that doesn't need to be redone in 6-8 months

what happens after 6 to 8 months....
 

floccus

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After 6-8 months the paste just dries out and looses its conductivity. For most poeople here, its not a problem since they fiddle with things constantly and have to re-apply the stuff. But for people who don't need to mess with the HSF ever again, a thermal pad is best since it doesn't loose its conductive properties.
 

XRdirtHead

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I think I'm going to give the Arcitic Silver a try....just hoping to get all the melted wax off the cpu and heatsink.
 

floccus

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Mar 3, 2003
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Artic Silver is good, just check it in about 6 months and if its dried out any then reapply.
 

chizow

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Jun 26, 2001
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Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
what is the differance to the differant revisions? is it worth breaking my current to get a revision 2.0
Revision 2.0, from what I've seen first-hand is laid out identically to earlier revisions. There aren't any new ICs or different IC placement on the board, however, there are newer steppings and dates on some significant components. The biggest difference of course is the SPP and MCP-T revisions. The NB is now A1 (C1) and the Southbridge is now A4 (C1). That German site I linked to is poorly translated in Google, but its very detailed and although it takes a while to get through it, its a very detailed review (I've never seen a mobo review that detailed in English). The new northbridge is basically the Crush-18D that has been in the press the last few days. It brings full 400MHz support to the nForce2 platform. This doesn't mean that older revisions won't be able to do 400MHz FSB, it just means that boards with Crush will be able to accomplish 400MHz easier, cooler, and with more headroom to go beyond 400MHz FSB.

I think they accomplished improved 400MHz FSB stability by increasing the VDD (most obvious), but it also looks like they replaced the caps with a different model from a different maker. It also looks like the beefed up the mosfets near the socket A and SPP NB. The board still uses a two-phase power supply though . The other changes are of course to the memory controllers in the NB itself. Both the NB and SB run MUCH cooler than the earlier revisions. I'm not even bothering to add additional chipset cooling this time around. The Silicon Image SATA controller is a later revision and stepping as well, which is probably a good thing considering the problems many experienced with it. I don't know if it speeds up boot times anymore than before, as I disabled it before I even installed my CPU. I didn't see anything else that was really notable other than some different names on ICs and later mfg. dates in 2003.

XRdirtHead, AS3 is an excellent choice not only for its excellent thermal conductive qualities, but also because of its ease of application and removal. I'm not going to pretend like it cools any better or worse than other thermal grease out on the market, but I've yet to find anything that applies as smoothly and evenly as AS3. Removal is straightforward as well; just use Q-tips, some Acetone or Isopropyl and some distilled water. As for removing the wax-based thermal pad; its pretty simple actually. Just take a new razorblade and angle it to the heatsink at @ 45-30 degree on a corner of the pad. Slide the blade underneath the rest of the pad and you should be able to get it all off in one piece leaving a VERY minimal trace on the heatsink.

Here's the important part though; you'll need to remove all the residue from the bottom of the heatsink, as any leftovers might negatively effect heat transfer with a different thermal paste such as AS3. I prefer Goo-Gone followed by Acetone or Isopropy. As for heatsinks, I'm a big fan of the ThermalRight coolers; I'm using the SLK-800 and its a superior cooler given its price range. I got it for $29 a few months ago from SVC, but I believe its a little bit more now. They also have the newer SLK-900 which is a bolt-on solution that features a larger copper base and the ability to accept 92mm fans (the SLK-800 can as well, but the 900 is designed to fit 92mm and smaller). I used a Alpha Pal8045 for nearly 2 years before that, which was also an excellent cooler, but I needed to get a clip-on heatsink b/c I got real tired of having to remove my mobo every time I wanted to get to my CPU. Anyways, point is, its worth it to invest in a good cooler now if you plan to OC; it'll last you as long as you have a Socket A mobo and CPU.

For those with USB 2.0 problems, graywar mentioned the fix that worked for me when my USB ports were acting funny a few months ago. I've found that the USB 2.0 drivers are either not included in the standard UDA, or they aren't installed when the rest of the chipset drivers are installed. The workaround is to manually install the drivers for the "standard enhanced PCI to USB Controller" in Device Manager under the Universal Serial Bus Controllers header. You could also remove the device and reboot and let XP detect the drivers. Also, it seems the there's a new version of the USB 2.0 drivers on the Asus site, so don't forget to download and install those if you hare having USB 2.0 problems. I had to use PS/2 converters for my KB and mouse b/c the USB driver wasn't properly installed. As soon as I manually updated, my USB hubs came to life and everything that wasn't detected before came alive.

Chiz
 

XRdirtHead

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Looks like the SLK-900 won't fit on this board LINK

This is at the end of the article
Editor's Note: After additional testing, we found that the SLK-900 would fit a number of different AMD motherboards, but it requires the enduser to bend a few capacitors out of the way so that they do not come into contact with the fins of the SLK-900, thus allowing proper seating of the heatsink.
This procedure is not for the novice, but for more experienced users and remember, you do so at your own risk. Bending them too much can cause damage to your motherboard
 

nippyjun

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Oct 10, 1999
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I'm leaning toward getting the A7N8X Deluxe: For 400 support is there a jumper on the board. I downloaded the manual from asus but it only shows the jumper that allows you to choose betwee 333/266 or 200.

Thanks.
 

FingerDemon

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Apr 7, 2003
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I'm a motherboard newbie, but I am thinking of getting this board for myself for my birthday. (Which is today, I might add. ) However, in my shopping I have one component that is really eluding me. It seems clear what kind of decisions to make before buying a CPU or RAM, etc. But what kind of case, should I be looking at? I wouldn't mind something that looks a little cooler than beige, but I don't need lighting kits or clear panels. Just big enough, well laid out with good vents and either a good Power supply or lower price so I can buy my own PS. Is there any clear leader in this area? I was looking at Antec Lanboy or the Performance 1080 that Tom's gave a good review to, but it seems like I am paying for a lot of stuff I don't really need.

Any thoughts, would be appreciated. And, if this is off topic, I apologize, but I am particularly interested in a case for this motherboard.

Thanks,

FingerDemon
 

floccus

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Mar 3, 2003
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I'm leaning toward getting the A7N8X Deluxe: For 400 support is there a jumper on the board. I downloaded the manual from asus but it only shows the jumper that allows you to choose betwee 333/266 or 200.

The settings are in the BIOS and aren't jumpers for one. I don't want to get into to the stupid details about FSB settings and all, but you can currently manually move the FSB up to 200Mhz, which is actually a 400Mhz DDR bus. With BIOS updates you'll probably have a regualr setting for 200Mhz instead of having to push it up manually, but yeah, "400Mhz" FSB is supported.

I'm a motherboard newbie, but I am thinking of getting this board for myself for my birthday. (Which is today, I might add. ) However, in my shopping I have one component that is really eluding me. It seems clear what kind of decisions to make before buying a CPU or RAM, etc. But what kind of case, should I be looking at? I wouldn't mind something that looks a little cooler than beige, but I don't need lighting kits or clear panels. Just big enough, well laid out with good vents and either a good Power supply or lower price so I can buy my own PS. Is there any clear leader in this area? I was looking at Antec Lanboy or the Performance 1080 that Tom's gave a good review to, but it seems like I am paying for a lot of stuff I don't really need.

Any thoughts, would be appreciated. And, if this is off topic, I apologize, but I am particularly interested in a case for this motherboard.

Thanks,

FingerDemon

Any case will pretty much work as long as its full ATX compatible. I actually stuck this board in an old server case from a Gateway with a little help from my trusy dremel . I would say Antec's cases are a good choice, you know you're getting a good PSU then. Personally I would just buy whichever case has the look and setup I want and buy the PSU I need. Ask the case forum and they'll give you a ton of great ideas.
 

nippyjun

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Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: floccus
I'm leaning toward getting the A7N8X Deluxe: For 400 support is there a jumper on the board. I downloaded the manual from asus but it only shows the jumper that allows you to choose betwee 333/266 or 200.

The settings are in the BIOS and aren't jumpers for one. I don't want to get into to the stupid details about FSB settings and all, but you can currently manually move the FSB up to 200Mhz, which is actually a 400Mhz DDR bus. With BIOS updates you'll probably have a regualr setting for 200Mhz instead of having to push it up manually, but yeah, "400Mhz" FSB is supported.

So, I would leave the jumber on the 333/266 setting, but then in the bios change the fsb to 200 for a 400bus chip?

 

floccus

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Mar 3, 2003
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Ok, I just rummaged around and re-read what the manual says. Setting the jumper for 200Mhz locks you into 2 X 100Mhz. Keep the setting on 266/333 and use the BIOS to change the FSB to what you want. I forgot about that jumper actually, mainly because it locks you on a 100Mhz DDR FSB so no one would really need that except for older Athlons and possibly Durons.
 

nippyjun

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Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: snidy1
Are the 400 fsb cpu's out yet?

Not yet. Hopefully soon. Although it sounds like a lot of people are running existing chips at the 400fsb speed using a lower multiplyer.

 

DanStp

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Well I am narrowing down my scanner problems. Apparently this scanner will be reconized on USB 1.1 systems but not USB 2.0 systems I had an extra 40 GIG drive laying around, I did a clean install of XP SP1 on it, and loaded all the Nvidia Nforce drivers. It was still not reconized, I went out to the ASUS site and downloaded the lated USB updates. No effect.

One thing I noticed is that when I installed the USB 2.0 update, it said I had newer files on my computer, than those that were being installed. Off tommorrow accross town to get another scanner.

Thanks for the help guys, the thing that really threw me on this one was that the scanner worked find on an XP USB 1.1 system, an old ABIT board I was getting ready to give away. My XP install is a reinstall off an old SOYO Dragon + board, so I thought that might be part of the problem but a clean install to the old drive proves it is not.

Well I went out and got the new scanner, same model and brand, and this one works fine. So the Visoneer 9020 USB scanner works fine on the A7N8X board. Thanks for the help again
 

Soulo

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Sep 5, 2002
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Originally posted by: XRdirtHead
Looks like the SLK-900 won't fit on this board LINK

This is at the end of the article
Editor's Note: After additional testing, we found that the SLK-900 would fit a number of different AMD motherboards, but it requires the enduser to bend a few capacitors out of the way so that they do not come into contact with the fins of the SLK-900, thus allowing proper seating of the heatsink.
This procedure is not for the novice, but for more experienced users and remember, you do so at your own risk. Bending them too much can cause damage to your motherboard

A safer way is to cut-out parts of the copper on the SLK-900 that is touching the capacitors and the chipset's heatsink. I've done this to my SLK-900. It fits and is working properly.
 

Mark

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Oct 9, 1999
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I am getting random BSODs and my comp has rebooted by itself a few times ever since I got this board bout 4 days ago. Here are my specs if anyone can help


Antec 430w TruPower PS
XP TB 2400
512 PC2700 Kingston ValueRam running at 266
ATI Radeon 9500
Soundblaster Live Value
Linksys 10/100 ethernet card
WD 20.5GB hard drive
Liteon 16X DVD drive
Liteon 24/10/40 CDRW
 

chizow

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Jun 26, 2001
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I'd say its a RAM or driver issue. I'd also pull the SBLive!, as its now dated and unsupported by Creative with a long history of problems. Plus, the onboard sound is better than the Live! anyways. Make sure you have the latest drivers for all of your components, particularly your video card. Also disable any options in the BIOS under integrated peripherals that you are not using.

Chiz
 
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