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RallyKid

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Thanks for the reply Giranda, yeah our systems are very alike. I find i difficult to belive that with a 500mhz memory, and watercooling I cant hit 1000 FSB. Anybody got any suggestions for me?
 

DavidHull

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K I am getting real sick of this bullsh!t. Can't get this system past 210 FSB, or 2300MHz. Tried 1:1 with raised mem and core voltage, tried underclocking mem to 333 in bios, then raised fsb and played with multipliers, and voltage, all to no avail, either hangs on boot up, or boots to desk top and freezes. This is ridiculous! SOmeone help me, suggestions on how to go about this. I am running 105 bios, and WIN XP SP2

Have you locked the PCI to 33mhz and PCI Express to 100mhz. In addition, have you set HyperTransport (HT) to x4?
 

buckZor

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For you guys blowing away your Windows installation by trying to overclock, ever heard of ERD System Commander? Its a bootable Windows XP cd. I use that to see if Im stable. No corrupt system files if I crash out. Just a suggestion.
 

Shaga

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I sent email to kingston, about their value rams and asked about optimal memory timings and all and this is what I got:

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The memory is designed to run at 200Mhz bus which makes the memory run at a
frequency of 400Mhz. The default timings are what we guarantee the memory
to run at. Anything beyond that we cannot guarantee.


PS: Please respond with e-mail history.

Best regards,
***** **********
US Technical Support
Kingston Technology

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Shaga

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Originally posted by: Shaga
Now using 240x10 at 1:1. Is that good enough? What do you think?

I tried that just at this morning and I can't make it work, perhaps I've forgotten right bios settings(memory timings to be exact I think) or something.. I've been using this lately:

Memory:
Hyper Transport Frequency 5x
Cool'n'Quiet disabled
Max Memclock -mhz- DDR400
1T/2T Memory Timing 1T
CAS# latency (Tcl) 2.5
rest auto(because I don't know how should I put them,n00b me)

Jumperfree:
CPU frequency 218mhz
PCI xpress 100Mhz
DDR Voltage 2.65v
CPU Multiplier x11
CPU Voltage 1.550v
PCI Clock Synchronization Mode 33.33Mhz

And I do oc from bios, any recommendations?
 

Shaga

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Originally posted by: Lightingguy
Hey Payto,
I'm OCing a 3200+ with cheap RAM. I get 2.63 GHz and my RAM runs at 219 MHz. Your results may vary, but here's the relationship of FSB speed, Multiplier, HT Multiplier, RAM setting, and RAM speed:

FSB x Multiplier is CPU speed (260x10=2600 MHz.)

HT multiplier takes FSB (normal is 200 MHz) and multiplies for HT speed (200x5=1000MHz is normal)

RAM setting (DDR266, DDR333, DDR400, DDR466, etc.) uses a ratio to take the FSB speed and multiply it by a fraction to set the RAM speed. Those settings are as follows: (only listing a few key ones)

DDR 400 (PC3200 RAM):1/1
DDR333 (PC2700 RAM): 5/6
DDR 266 (PC 2100 RAM): 2/3

In other words, if you set FSB at 260 and RAM at DDR400 (1/1) you get RAM speed of 260 MHz.

RAM speed is the product of FSB and the ratio determined by the RAM setting.

OK, so what do you need to do? First, make sure you have the latest BIOS. Then, you may want to try some setting that give you high CPU speed, but lower RAM speed, and keep the HT speed near 1000MHz.
What works for me is 263 FSB, x10 multiplier, 4x HT (1052 MHz HT speed), RAM at DDR333 (263x5/6=219 MHz @ 2.75v) . My CPU voltage is only around 1.46v. In addition, I have set the memory timing to 1T (that really seems to help performance).

Your possible top CPU multiplier is 11, so here are some possible combinations which may be OK:

FSB: 220 CPU Mult: 11 (2.42 GHz) HTT Mult: 5 (1100MHz) RAM: DDR400 (1/1 FSB) RAM Speed: 220MHz
FSB: 240 CPU Mult: 11 (2.64 GHz) HTT Mult: 4 (960 MHz) RAM: DDR 333 (5/6 FSB) RAM Speed: 200 MHz
FSB: 250 CPU Mult: 11 (2.75 GHz) HTT Mult: 4 (1000 MHz) RAM: DDR 333 (5/6 FSB) RAM Speed: 208 MHz

You get the picture. You can work with higher FSBs and lower multipliers, or vice-versa. The math is pretty easy - read the OC How-tos, use a good power supply, and have fun!

Very nice examples. But how about memory settings? I can do only this from your options:
FSB: 220[218] CPU Mult: 11 (2.42 GHz) HTT Mult: 5 (1100MHz) RAM: DDR400 (1/1 FSB) RAM Speed: 220MHz[218Mhz]

And I have AMD64 3500+ and is high voltage required?
 

Shaga

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with 2-3-4-11-4 memory timings, 2.8ddr voltage, vcore of 1.6 and 1:1 10x/240mhz(4xHT=960mhz fsb) I can ntune as well. pifast gives -0.2 difference to my previous. Hope my posts helps someone and someone can guide me as well

ADD: Anyone tested new bios update? should I update...
 

govern1

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Fumunda, my Maxtor DiamondMax 10 (16 meg) hd is intermittently detected by the Nvidia onboard sata controller as well, but only when plugged into controller #2 (sata 3 or 4). If I have it connected to sata 1 or 2, it is detected just fine (with NCQ disabled). I have not tested the SI sata ports, though.

Shawn
 

ajmiles

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I turned off my machine just 30 minutes ago while using the 1003.006 BIOS and again lost my Diamondmax10 from the BIOS. It disappeared for 2-3 reboots, then without me touching anything, it reappeared again. During the missing Maxtor, I couldn't boot from my Raptor. Now when it came back I still couldn't boot from either drive, but, on a second attempt the Raptor booted, showing the Maxtor in Windows.

As much as I like trying out the new Beta BIOSes, it isn't good for my health when 300gb hard drives go walkies.

I've also get a very similar system to a few people posting recently, and I've not been able to make much headway past 230FSB.

AMD A64 3500 Winchester 90nm
OCZ Platinum Rev2 1GB
and of course the A8N SLI Deluxe.
also then graphics card is the Leadtek 6800GT, which has decided to run the fan 100% of the time again. Why won't it shut up!? It ran quietly after the .006 BIOS reflash, then within a few hours it was loud again.
 

imported_Fumunda

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Originally posted by: govern1
Fumunda, my Maxtor DiamondMax 10 (16 meg) hd is intermittently detected by the Nvidia onboard sata controller as well, but only when plugged into controller #2 (sata 3 or 4). If I have it connected to sata 1 or 2, it is detected just fine (with NCQ disabled). I have not tested the SI sata ports, though.

Shawn


Thanks for your help Shawn,

My drive was OEM so i didnt get any documentation with it. I've checked maxtors site and cant find out how to disable the NCQ. I am connecting it to SATA1. The weird thing about the new bios is that in the main screen in no longer lists SATA1 controller1, and when you go to the drives screen it only shows "removable card" in the disk drive list. Im going to go pick up a 1.44 today and try flashing it back to see if that helps.

*Edit looks like atleast 1 other person is having the same problem. Ajames do you have NCQ disabled?

once again thanks for the help
 

JMag

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Originally posted by: RallyKid
Thanks for the reply Giranda, yeah our systems are very alike. I find i difficult to belive that with a 500mhz memory, and watercooling I cant hit 1000 FSB. Anybody got any suggestions for me?

Why do you care if your HT speed is 1000?

If you can show me any performance increase form HT @ 600mhz vs HT @ 1000mhz I would be shocked...

Essentially there is no difference between the two. Just worry about getitng your processor clocked higher (well higher ram speed is always nice too)
 

RallyKid

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Thats essentially what I want JMag, higher mem speed, and as long as I have memory that is rated at 500MHZ, why not hit that atleast, right. Instead I cant even hit anything above a FSB of 210. i hope this is just an issue with the bios, and settings.

When I tried overclocking it past 210, and it actually did not freeze, the scren freeze for a second, then go black, and refresh and it would be fine, and it did that every 2minutes or so. Anybody get this.

Also sometimes in SLI mode i get just the top half of the screen that appears, and the bottom does not, as if the other car was not working.
 

ajmiles

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Yes, I do have NCQ disabled.

But at the moment I can't remember where I turned it on (before it corrupted my drive) to know where to turn it off.
 

Shaga

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Originally posted by: ajmiles
Yes, I do have NCQ disabled.

But at the moment I can't remember where I turned it on (before it corrupted my drive) to know where to turn it off.

Set your power saving options from control panel to home/office-use instead of minium power usage and/or just disable it from bios settings.
 

imported_Rohan

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Originally posted by: RallyKid
Thats essentially what I want JMag, higher mem speed, and as long as I have memory that is rated at 500MHZ, why not hit that atleast, right. Instead I cant even hit anything above a FSB of 210. i hope this is just an issue with the bios, and settings.

When I tried overclocking it past 210, and it actually did not freeze, the scren freeze for a second, then go black, and refresh and it would be fine, and it did that every 2minutes or so. Anybody get this.

Also sometimes in SLI mode i get just the top half of the screen that appears, and the bottom does not, as if the other car was not working.

I had that screen flickering problem too when I was overclocking, I couldn't get much higher than 210Mhz either. After a while, my windows install was corrupted. What BIOS file are you using? Also which SATA port? I went back to the 1002 BIOS, and used SATA port 1 instead of 4, and now I'm reaching 290Mhz FSB easily. Also I'm using 2T instead of 1T on the RAM.
 

ajmiles

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OK, bit of a new problem with the 1003.006 BIOS that I may let ASUS know if it affects other people.

Basically, after a couple of reboots with the 006 BIOS, my Marvel Gigabit Adapter disappeared from Windows. Not just one instance of windows, but other ones too on other drives. It wasn't a driver problem, because it was working, and then it disappeared. It was 100% definitely enabled in the BIOS, even default settings (where it is enabled) didn't work.

Then while overclocking it locked up and I lost the Maxtor (surprise surprise), so I reflashed to 1002, and presto, the Marvel Adapter is back again. All I really need is one more person to have the same problem and I'll try and let Asus know.

We really could do with a good BIOS for this board soon.

ajmiles
 

r00tcause

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Originally posted by: DavidHull
Problem: setting CPU voltage to 1.5625 or lower gives 1.46v to cpu. 1.575 bumps it to 1.585. Newest BIOS. Tried resetting with clockgen, but no results (ASUS Probe and CPUID show no change, and the temps stay same, they always rise when overvolt any CPUs). Need a setting that gives me proper 1.52-1.55v. 1.585 takes CPU over 50C, and 1.46 doesn't run stress tests at 2.7GHz.

Yes, it is a problem with the board/BIOS. Mine does the same thing and it is a pain heatwise.

everything is fine except when I try to run at 250 x 10 4HT, it wouldn't work my RAM is 3-4-4-8 DDR 500 ram and i figured that i can run 250 x 10... but system wont POST... any ideas?

There is definitely a problem with this board when trying run memory much over 240 mhz, even if the RAM is rated for a higher speed. Run it at 240 mhz, run memtest, then leave it there until Asus, hopefuly, releases a fix. At least, that is what I'm doing, but if they haven't fixed it by the time DFI releases their board, then some lucky bastard on Ebay is going to get a hell of a deal on a barely used A8N SLI Deluxe.


I run mine at 250x11 4xHTTT at 2.750MHZ with no problems provided I keep my cpu above -10C

I am switching from Winchester to Newcastle because I have a prommy and the Winchester shuts down around -10C.

What this board really needs is smaller HTT increments. I'd like to use an X3.5HTT but I can only choose X3 or X4 fo rmy purposes and X3 yields a less than ideal total HTT speed.

I should also note that this 250X11 is at 2-2-2-5 1T!!



 

Moklonus

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Valion-

I have a question about the A8N-SLI (as well as all NF4 SLI boards, most like): Can I use the two 16X PCI-E slots for two completely different video cards, and simply use both of them in non-SLI mode? I'm in the middle of buying a new computer, and I've been waiting for the new set of motherboards and video cards to come out. I was previously set on getting an NF4 Ultra board, but if could buy an A8N-SLI now along with a cheap PCI-E video card, then add an X800XL later when they're out, there's no reason for me to wait. I don't have much interest in the actual SLI feature, but just being able to use two video cards would be great.


This is the only article I've seen using the A8N-SLI with two different video cards:

Tom's Hardware Guide

ATI X800 & a GeForce 6800

Hope it helps
 

RallyKid

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SATA port 1 & 2 in RAID 0. Bios 1005. How could it be the SATA ports? As far as the bios, I belive I treid going back to 002 or was it 003 with no better results in OC'ing.
 

iscsidude

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Just curious.
After following this thread for a month, do any of you have successful implementations without overclocking. I'm just considering this Mobo for things like MS Office and my daughters occasional games.

Also, does anyone have a resolution for the 8K RPM fan on the NF4 chip?
Loud will not work in my home/office.

I'm currently using a PC Power and Cooling Supply. It has never failed after 5 years, however, the noise is something I can do without.

Thanks for any input.
 

imported_nitrus

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I have this problem with the IDE channel 1 and 2. seagate 300GB master and slave 200GB hitachi 7k250. when running anything from the hitachi drive the computer reboots. switched to 2nd channel and computer fails to boot. I've used and alternative OS ( Bart PE which is windows based ) to no avail. when i split off the drive and use two channels they work fine. any one else have this problem?
 

Shaga

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Originally posted by: iscsidude
Just curious.
After following this thread for a month, do any of you have successful implementations without overclocking. I'm just considering this Mobo for things like MS Office and my daughters occasional games.

Also, does anyone have a resolution for the 8K RPM fan on the NF4 chip?
Loud will not work in my home/office.

I'm currently using a PC Power and Cooling Supply. It has never failed after 5 years, however, the noise is something I can do without.

Thanks for any input.

This mainboard is awesome, I can get nice overclockings with stock cooling and without overclocking, there's been zero problems for me.
 

harvgill

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Are you using a Sound Blaster by any chance. I cannot use the beta bios at all while I have the SB installed. If I'm lucky enough to get into windows, the Marvell does dissapear.
 

ajmiles

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Originally posted by: harvgill
Are you using a Sound Blaster by any chance. I cannot use the beta bios at all while I have the SB installed. If I'm lucky enough to get into windows, the Marvell does dissapear.

You Marvell disappears with which beta BIOS? 006?
 
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