* Official ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe (nForce4) Thread *

gorman70 · Jan 25, 2005

Originally posted by: ajmiles
EDIT: Or, make sure you have Cool and Quiet turned off. If this is enabled your processor will drop from 2.0/2.2/2.4 GHz to 1.0, probably being the cause of your half bandwidth. So disable that first, then default the bios settings after you've checked.

Yes, it was Cool and Quiet.

Now it's reporting this data:

SiSoftware Sandra

Benchmark Results
RAM Bandwidth Int Buff'd iSSE2 : 4824 MB/s
RAM Bandwidth Float Buff'd iSSE2 : 4827 MB/s

Int Buff'd iSSE2 (Integer STREAM) Results Breakdown
Assignment : 4683MB/s
Scaling : 4662MB/s
Addition : 4968MB/s
Triad : 4985MB/s
Data Item Size : 16 byte(s)
Buffering Used : Yes
Offset Displacement Used : Yes
Bandwidth Efficiency : 75% (estimated)

Float Buff'd iSSE2 (Float STREAM) Results Breakdown
Assignment : 4679MB/s
Scaling : 4664MB/s
Addition : 4977MB/s
Triad : 4989MB/s
Data Item Size : 16 byte(s)
Buffering Used : Yes
Offset Displacement Used : Yes
Bandwidth Efficiency : 75% (estimated)

Performance Test Status
Run ID : LASHER on martedì 25 gennaio 2005 at 16.42.03
Memory Used by Test : 512MB
NUMA Support : No
SMP Test : No
Total Test Threads : 1
SMT Test : No
Dynamic MP/MT Load Balance : No
Processor Affinity : P0
Page Size : 4kB
Use Large Memory Pages : No

Chipset 1
Model : Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) Athlon 64 / Opteron HyperTransport Technology Configuration
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 1005MHz (2010MHz data rate)
In/Out Width : 16-bit / 16-bit
Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 8040MB/s (estimated)

Logical/Chipset 1 Memory Banks
Bank 0 : 512MB DDR-SDRAM 2.0-2-2-2CL 2CMD
Bank 1 : 512MB DDR-SDRAM 2.0-2-2-2CL 2CMD
Bank 2 : 512MB DDR-SDRAM 2.0-2-2-2CL 2CMD
Bank 3 : 512MB DDR-SDRAM 2.0-2-2-2CL 2CMD
Channels : 1
Bank Interleave : 4-way
Speed : 2x 201MHz (402MHz data rate)
Width : 128-bit
Maximum Memory Bus Bandwidth : 6432MB/s (estimated)

The overall performance hasn't change though. And what baffles me is the fact that it states Channels: 1. While CPU-Z reports my 2 gigabytes of RAM as Channels #: Dual.

Is Sandra wrong? Is that Channels entry for a whole different thing? Are my results so bad for non OC memory with those timings in Dual Channel?

cownipples · Jan 25, 2005

Hi Everyone, After I installed the 1003 final bios my system has been running real stable passing all test and bench marks here is my informatio for referance:
I also posted memory bandwidth at the bottom

SiSoftware Sandra

System
Host Name : GAMERSDREAM
User : Cownipples
Domain : WORKGROUP

Processor
Model : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+
Speed : 2.70GHz
Model Number : 3500 (estimated)
Performance Rating : PR4052 (estimated)
Type : Standard
L2 On-board Cache : 512kB ECC Synchronous, Write-Back, 16-way set, 64 byte line size

Mainboard
Bus(es) : PCI PCIe USB FireWire/1394
MP Support : 1 CPU(s)
MP APIC : No
System BIOS : Phoenix Technologies, LTD ASUS A8N-SLI DELUXE ACPI BIOS Revision 1003
System : System manufacturer System name
Mainboard : ASUSTeK Computer INC. A8N-SLI DELUXE
Total Memory : 1GB DDR-SDRAM

Chipset 1
Model : Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) Athlon 64 / Opteron HyperTransport Technology Configuration
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 1080MHz (2160MHz data rate)
Total Memory : 1GB DDR-SDRAM
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 270MHz (540MHz data rate)

Video System
Monitor/Panel : ViewSonic A90f+
Adapter : NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT Series GPU
Adapter : NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT Series GPU

Memory tests
SiSoftware Sandra

Benchmark Results
RAM Bandwidth Int Buff'd iSSE2 : 6391 MB/s
RAM Bandwidth Float Buff'd iSSE2 : 6384 MB/s

Int Buff'd iSSE2 (Integer STREAM) Results Breakdown
Assignment : 6199MB/s
Scaling : 6189MB/s
Addition : 6604MB/s
Triad : 6574MB/s
Data Item Size : 16 byte(s)
Buffering Used : Yes
Offset Displacement Used : Yes
Bandwidth Efficiency : 74% (estimated)

Float Buff'd iSSE2 (Float STREAM) Results Breakdown
Assignment : 6186MB/s
Scaling : 6181MB/s
Addition : 6604MB/s
Triad : 6567MB/s
Data Item Size : 16 byte(s)
Buffering Used : Yes
Offset Displacement Used : Yes
Bandwidth Efficiency : 74% (estimated)

Performance Test Status
Run ID : GAMERSDREAM on Monday, January 24, 2005 at 9:25:21 AM
Memory Used by Test : 512MB
NUMA Support : No
SMP Test : No
Total Test Threads : 1
SMT Test : No
Dynamic MP/MT Load Balance : No
Processor Affinity : P0
Page Size : 4kB
Use Large Memory Pages : No

Chipset 1
Model : Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) Athlon 64 / Opteron HyperTransport Technology Configuration
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 1080MHz (2160MHz data rate)
In/Out Width : 16-bit / 16-bit
Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 8640MB/s (estimated)

Logical/Chipset 1 Memory Banks
Bank 0 : 512MB DDR-SDRAM 3.0-5-5-5CL 2CMD
Bank 1 : 512MB DDR-SDRAM 3.0-5-5-5CL 2CMD
Channels : 1
Bank Interleave : 2-way
Speed : 2x 270MHz (540MHz data rate)
Width : 128-bit
Maximum Memory Bus Bandwidth : 8640MB/s (estimated)

SiSoftware Sandra Memory tests

Benchmark Results
RAM Bandwidth Int Buff'd iSSE2 : 6391 MB/s
RAM Bandwidth Float Buff'd iSSE2 : 6384 MB/s

Int Buff'd iSSE2 (Integer STREAM) Results Breakdown
Assignment : 6199MB/s
Scaling : 6189MB/s
Addition : 6604MB/s
Triad : 6574MB/s
Data Item Size : 16 byte(s)
Buffering Used : Yes
Offset Displacement Used : Yes
Bandwidth Efficiency : 74% (estimated)

Float Buff'd iSSE2 (Float STREAM) Results Breakdown
Assignment : 6186MB/s
Scaling : 6181MB/s
Addition : 6604MB/s
Triad : 6567MB/s
Data Item Size : 16 byte(s)
Buffering Used : Yes
Offset Displacement Used : Yes
Bandwidth Efficiency : 74% (estimated)

Jayded · Jan 25, 2005

Hi I am currently running the A8N-SLI Deluxe with an Athlon64 3000+, 512x2MB of OCZ 4400 Gold, 1 Geforce 6600GT running in x16 mode, an Enermax Noisetaker 475AX-VE-SFMA and my system drive is a 74GB Raptor II and I have two other drives, a 300GB Maxtor 16MB cache and a 250 maxtor 8MB cache, all SATA all running on the NForce SATA controller. I have turned NCQ off for all drives. What is strange about my system is that I can overclock to about 277 or so running 1:1 with 2T, 2.5,4,4,10, but after a long time (or even sometimes a short time) I get either IRQL_NOT_LESS_THAN_OR_EQUAL or PAGEFAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA or sometimes even just a STOP 0x000000024 Ntfs.sys error.

I know its not my voltage, because all my rails are completely stable and just above their expected values... 12 is 12.03v, etc. I don't think it has anything to do with heating, because I have lots of cooling and it doesn't seem to be related to system performance. Last night I turned my timings down to 2.5,6,6,11 and ran 3dmark05 20 times in a row and it finished them just fine, but sometime afterwards I was just reading the internet with firefox and I got the 0x000000024 ntfs.sys error. I am beginning to think that it is my hard drives, but I am not sure what about them it would be. I have a fan blowing on them and they are seperated enough they shouldn't really be heating each other... and I have S.M.A.R.T. on and it doesn't detect anything. Oh one other note I have run MemTest86+ in the overclocked setting for like 10 hours with no errors at all. Do you guys think its my raptor? or maybe just the NForce SATA controller? I don't have any spare IDE drives lying around to test with right now, but I have tried reformatting the Raptor with no success.

Oh, and one more thing, I have had similar problems on the 1002 bios and all the beta bios's that I have tried, including 1003 beta final which I am currently running.

Thanks for any help you can give,
--Jayded

JimKiler · Jan 25, 2005

System Host Name : GAMERSDREAM User : Cownipples Domain : WORKGROUP

Cownipples? I don't even want to know.

cownipples · Jan 25, 2005

I played ut99 as an atomic war cow and used the name cownipples everyone thought it was funny so I use it as my email address to cownipples@hotmail.com (Did you really think I had cownipples, Thats a bad visual) LOL

andvruss · Jan 25, 2005

Can someone help me? The onboard sound for this motherboard is very echoey on my headset, and it is really annoying me, especially in Quake 3 engine games. It is RealTek AC'97. It didn't happen for the 2 weeks before I got my Evga 6600GT PCI-e. I reformatted, installed everything in correct procedure, and the audio is very tinny in my headset. Thanks. I have the drivers for everything from the CDs, none from the Internet, because I had the normal drivers on the Nforce 4 CD before my new vid card/reformat and it was fine.

Thorsson · Jan 25, 2005

Originally posted by: atom519
Bah, ok so after putting in a simple pci fan card I'm starting to have problems with computer POSTing again. It wouldn't post the first time I tried to turn it back on, same problem I had 2 weeks ago after I re-arranged my cables. I'm using the 1003-05 beta bios, and saw that alot of people had the same problem with computer not posting after a reboot.

Well it's up and running right now, but I guarantee that if I reboot I will have problems. Sometimes it doesn't post, sometimes it freezes and BSOD at detecting devices, etc. Other times it goes through just fine, and I can run 3dmark, prime all day. WTF?

Only version I see with Asus auto-update util is 1003-06 beta dated newer then my current. Should I take the link off these forums for the 1003-final build, or go with the 06 version? I really want to iron out this problem and won't reboot untl I update. Thanks!

1003-007 and -008 are making people happy. 1004-002 is on the german FTP.

The board seems very sensitive to changes in power consumption. I found that if you follow the Clear RTC RAM procedure in the manual this solved my problems.

jdogg707 · Jan 25, 2005

cownipples, it seems to me like you are running 2T command rate if you are running 1:1. I get higher memory benches and my memory is running at DDR433 2-3-3-10 1T. Has anyone been able to overclock at 1T past 240 yet?

atom519 · Jan 25, 2005

Ok, thinking about flashing to 1004 bios and was wondering the consensus on it. Anyone tested it? I'm still getting the wierd post problems after completely powering down with the 1003-007 version.

FxSoap · Jan 25, 2005

Ah Atom...I've read all your posts since the beginning of this thread.
Curious, where did you get the 1004? Asus only has 1003 final?

Tripp17 · Jan 25, 2005

Originally posted by: jdogg707
cownipples, it seems to me like you are running 2T command rate if you are running 1:1. I get higher memory benches and my memory is running at DDR433 2-3-3-10 1T. Has anyone been able to overclock at 1T past 240 yet?

I am at 245 fsb with my mem at 1:1 and im really stable...i was at 246, but every now and then i get a random reboot....im talking after hours aof game playing and sometimes itd be fine but i find that 245 is like a rock. I was on the site today and saw an official bios release, it is the 1003 and its NOT abeta. I have it in my comp, but havent tried anything more on the fsb yet, ill post back with my findings.

note: my timings are 2.5-3-3-10

FxSoap · Jan 25, 2005

Also now after reading all the 60 pages of posts I'd like to ask the best, brightest and obviously most devoted.

From what my setup shows in my signature, what do you guys recommend doing step by step to get the best overclock and not mess anything up permanently?

Thanks,
Sterling

AnimalAsteroid · Jan 25, 2005

Just installed BIOS v1004-001. Seems OK so far. Still have problems with video shimmering/halo effects running games in SLI mode, non-SLI mode works great.

FxSoap · Jan 25, 2005

Where is the 1004 bios?

DavidHull · Jan 26, 2005

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="ftp://ftp.asuscom.de/pub/ASUSCOM/BIOS/Socket_939/NVIDIA_Chipset/nForce4_SLI/A8N-SLI_Deluxe/">ftp://ftp.asuscom.de/pub/AS......LI/A8N-SLI_Deluxe/</a>

It adds new warnings for CPU and CHA1 fan speeds, but nothing else that I can tell because I can't read German. It reduces the FAN speed at strange times, though, when under load, causing an annoying resonance. I'm back at 1003 due to that and my memory still won't run above 240 1:1 with 1T.

DavidHull · Jan 26, 2005

Oh, by the way. One good thing is that my system is Prime95 stable at 270 HTT with the HT at 4x, giving 1080 mhz. This is faster than the BUS would run with my nForce3 chipset. Not that this makes much of a real world difference, but it's fun to have.

NetCop · Jan 26, 2005

Since 1003 Final BIOS (and all 1003 betas) didn't resolve my problem with dissapearing Maxtor NCQ HDD, i'm still with 1002 final.
Did anyone with the same problem try 1004-001 ? What changes are made in this BIOS ?

QicRic · Jan 26, 2005

Hi

Reading through the thread I haven't seen anyone say "Hey! NCQ works now!".

Has anyone tried this with the new bios (1004)

Cheers peeps

Rich

ajmiles · Jan 26, 2005

People are reluctant to test NCQ until ASUS have confirmed it is working. Enabling it then finding it still doesn't work means a corrupted and often irreperable (?) operating system. I for one won't enable NCQ until the 1004 final comes out and says it's fixed.

QicRic · Jan 26, 2005

Thanks ajmiles!

Yeah, I've read lots of harrowing tales of multiple re-installs etc. (Yuk!)

Can you tell me where I can watch out for the latest news from Asus on this please? It'd be nice (Although I'm sure you can almost guarantee they are) to know that Asus are working on the NCQ / general drive issues. So any Asus announcement pages etc would be cool.

Has this issue been firmly planted on Asus or do we think Maxtor could still be in the frame?

Thx in advance

Rich

byMaX · Jan 26, 2005

With 1003 final and 1004-001 beta, I can now run 2T, 1:1 at 310 with no problem (3-4-4-8). Still, 250 is max with 1T, but I think we're getting there!

infekted · Jan 26, 2005

Hi guys!

Been avidly reading this forum, however it would appear not well enough! I've recently purchased a a8n-sli deluxe board, however for some reason I assumed I could run a ATI card through it :/

I am using a x800-xl card through thr PCI-e slot, the system powers up, all case fans and even the fan on the board are working. However I am getting no signal to the monitor at all. Is there a incompoatibility issue with the nForce4 and ATI cards, or is it another issue ?

Thanks for your time!

Edit; Please note I am not trying to run a SLI setup.

SticknClutch · Jan 26, 2005

Infekted have you tried reseting the cmos? Unplug the computer, take out the CMOS battery, switch the jumper to pins 2+3 for about 10 secs, reinstall the battery and power up.

davidos · Jan 26, 2005

infekted.... where did you get your x800xl? If you have a PCI vid card try putting that in and getting to bios and setting the Init Display First to PCIE (not PCI)

Also, I think that anyone and everyone should let Asus know about the Maxtor NCQ problems...!

silverghost · Jan 26, 2005

Originally posted by: infekted
Hi guys!

Been avidly reading this forum, however it would appear not well enough! I've recently purchased a a8n-sli deluxe board, however for some reason I assumed I could run a ATI card through it :/

I am using a x800-xl card through thr PCI-e slot, the system powers up, all case fans and even the fan on the board are working. However I am getting no signal to the monitor at all. Is there a incompoatibility issue with the nForce4 and ATI cards, or is it another issue ?

Thanks for your time!

Edit; Please note I am not trying to run a SLI setup.

I'm running a X800XT with no problems. Only issue I had is that I had the Memory installed wrong at first when I set the board up...rest was user error lol

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