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steamnputer

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I agree with MLC also clock back or even enable Q&C I preffer that mode now, as I have not a single program other then p95 that even come close to using all of the avaliable bandwith of the cpu. OC is at best unstable with this board, and the bios is getting locked down tighter with each update it seems. I see they knocked the voltage down on winnes like mine.
I run the Nvidia port as it is native and seems(or one would assume) to run better due to direct support. I find it odd that ASUS chooses to put a marvel port onboard also, or is there some ethernet thing I don't know about here.
About the only change I noticed before I left on vacation was that the nvdia firewall was even less forgiving and did not work at all even in anti-hacking mixed with windows firewall. I have not had much time to monkey with it since I updated so I just shut it off entirely.

Of course that could be me since I installed(against my better judgement) the free norton software as had no other at the moment. I wonder if the nforce chipset is offloading and locking up causing the mobo reset? Isnt that an option in acitve armor?


---Also I just thought about this intially I did get the occasional restart, esp after I had my hands in the case or the even just opened it. For the first couple days, I wrote it off as a burn in thing, only happened after I booted and windows loaded(within 20 seconds). Has since stopped to my knowledge(wifea nd kids never said anything) although my reboots have been minimal in the meantime.

The only other things I can think of too is the confilicting sound driver/card/software. I installed nvidias software for the sound board and that was a big mistake. I do remember that it hung up the system something fierce, but not rebooting.

AND or is your harddrive on the IDE or SATA(and if so which). Some of the SATA ports are also locked, refer to the OC guide as i specifes(i think 1&2 are on the NV) I don't have my puter infront of too look.

steamnputer
 

jose

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Well now my mobo won't boot . This is before I try any oc'ing. I just flashed to 1.04 and rebooted fine.
Then I turned off stuff I don't need. ie. sound, marvel lan rebooted fine.
Then I added scsi cntrl & sblive, then nothing , no post message or video.
So I cleared cmos and took everything out and tried 6 times, nothing.
Tried w/ just cpu installed & out of case, againg nothing but the fans spin..

Tired of messing w/ this , just ordered another DFI Ultra-D....

Regards,
Jose
 

FP

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Can someone elaborate on the CMOS resetting issue?

I have read through many of the posts in this thread but can't find a clear answer.

Should we be resetting CMOS after *every* BIOS change?

Building a rig tomorrow with this board and this is critical info... Thanks!
 

Wild1

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Having a problem with the USB controller. After booting, it is disabled in device manager, no access to usb devices. I can uninstall it, scan for new hardware, device is found and loads driver. It then works and I have USB access untill I reboot, then I'm back to the beginning.
Down to the bare minimum config still have the issue. Raid 0 on Nvidia, video card and memory installed. Everything else removed. Drivers are ver 1006 for A8N.

EDIT - Disabled SI controller and now no conflicts. But I need the SI controller for the DVD ROM. Can not get the 716SA to work on the NVidia controller with the RAID config. (problem discussed in this thread)
Any suggestions for how to get the SI controller to play nice with the USB?
 

JJK80

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Why almost all of you here at the AnandTech forums have boughted the Deluxe version and not the cheaper non Deluxe version?
 

blinky2004

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For me I cannot get hold of a non-Deluxe model.

In fact, I didn't really want an SLI board I would have prefered an ultra but the only NForce4 boards available were SLI or the basic 4x (and then only Gigabyte or ECS). I could have got a Abit AN8 mail order but it would have cost me more than the A8N-SLI Deluxe.
 

steamnputer

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Originally posted by: binister
Can someone elaborate on the CMOS resetting issue?

I have read through many of the posts in this thread but can't find a clear answer.

Should we be resetting CMOS after *every* BIOS change?

Building a rig tomorrow with this board and this is critical info... Thanks!

Ok very simple NO, if you really thought about it if you change your BIOS then clear it what is the point right.....

You should clear the bios if you change any hardware, ie after you startup and something goes wrong (locks up, BSOD). Also you probably would not hurt to pull the CMOS jumper out while building as a good precaution. So unless you pull something out of the setup like a soundcard or pci card then no you should not need to. That does not mean you can't, I did without pulling anythinng out because I had one setting in the bios wrong and she locked up my IDE (or so i think).

Best of luck on your build I reccomend you read the manual, fully, esp if you plan on running RAID or SLI this board has some naunces that most don't. Also i would get it up and running stable before adding any extra equipment such as harddrives that are not needed to boot and sound cards. Then put them in one at a time and update them fully. Then it would be advisable to pull the CMOS jumper and reset the BIOS, I know its alot of leg work but its the way I did it and I did not run into most of the problems that others did. Also make sure your SLI jumper is set correctly, and that you set in the bios and the GPU manager in windows.



 

steamnputer

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Originally posted by: JJK80
Why almost all of you here at the AnandTech forums have boughted the Deluxe version and not the cheaper non Deluxe version?

2 reasons,
#1 the vanilla board was not really much less then the deluxe, at least 3 weeks ago. It had more expanablity and that has shot me in the foot before so why bottleneck myself out of the gate.
#2 The deluxe has had more updates and in general better support, also more folks at the time of my purchase due to the above and very limited avaliablity at the time got the deluxe also.

 

jose

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FYI

After 12hrs w/ the power unplugged & the cmos jumpered to reset, my system finally booted again w/ no cards in it.
So I flashed to 1.06, then rebooted. Next I added a sblive then rebooted & then disabled onboard sound & marvel controller.

Next I added my scsi card & rebooted w/out incident. Then I disabled the SI raid contoller & rebooted fine.

It seems any bios lower than 1.06 doesn't like scsi cards. Atleast this seems to be my exprience.

Next, I oc'd to 2.4 (4X HTT, 240mem, & 10x multiplier) so far so good, I'm formating my scsi drives.

I still would not recomend this board to anyone.

Regards,
Jose
 

steamnputer

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Jose,

You only needed to unplug the reset jumper for maybe ten miuntes at the most. I hope you went and laid down or something.

1004 seems to be the best OC bios is, 1006 a final now?- I really don't know.

I am glad you got it running, however compared to what I have read in other forums for SLI boards I would recomend this board.
This boards have been fincky esp when concerning PSU and memory, but no more or less then the others, it seems we have crossed a treshold as far using /reusing old equipment. I cannot tell from you sig what is what is what but it looks like you have alot of drives on SCSI controller. My advice to you is if you were to contuine to use this board is get SATA drives, more info would helpful though in your posts, I read 5 of which one was off topic and the other was more of a complaint then a question.


 

jose

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I did reset the jumper for 5 minutes but it would not boot. That's including unplugging the power cable from the psu.

I tried it 6 diff. times, but it would not post w/ just the cpu /mem/ video or w/ just the cpu..

I hope this board doesn't give me any more problems, I'll just run it at stock speed for a couple of months an see what happens.

As for as the scsi , once you have 15K drives everything is too slow...

I know I was complaining but wouldn't you , if you'd been waiting over 3 weeks ??

Regards,
Jose
 

blinky2004

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I was using an Adaptec 2940U2 (OEM version of the 2940U2W) with some 10k rpm SCSI drives at the end of last week and over the weekend using BIOS 1004 without any problems.

I've had no problems with the parallel port either. My Brother HL1250 still kicks out the pages as normal.

I have had problems clocking over 225MHz HTT (memory at 166). I tend to get HD corruption on the Primary Master. I've taken that drive out and replaced it with another S-ATA as it was getting a bit small anyway (only 80Gb),

I've switch from 4x256Mb (Infineon) to 2x512Mb (Crucial), but same issue. I need to have some time to investigate further. It's a difficult situation when you have to use your computer to earn a living.

My Seagate ST3160023AS OEM doesn't appear to support NCQ either (Tech docs say they may support it).

AMD64 3000+ Winchester
Asus AMD A8N-SLI
2x512Mb Crucial PC3200 (CAS3)
Gigabyte GV-NX66T128VP (6600GT 128Mb VIVO)
Creative Audigy 2 Platinum
2x 160Gb Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 SATA (8Mb cache)
120Gb WD 120Gb JB SATA (8Mb cache)
Liteon 166S DVD-ROM (Pri-slave)
Liteon 52246S CD-RW (Sec slave)
NEC 2500A DVDRW (Sec master)
Dell 1901FP TFT
Hiper Type R "True" 480W PSU

Will fit XP-90 this weekend
 

steamnputer

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JOSE
Good god I would hope yo uunplug the PSU when you open the case up, thats a really quick way to release all the smoke in the electrical componets and you need to keep the smoke inside them trust me. Do you know how much power you are drawing for the drives maybe your voltage is sagging with such a large load, how many drives( and for that matter fans and other power consuming devices) are you running, its been said and said again you need a bare minuimun of 450 watts, I would say that even that 550 might be stressed. Do those come with active power factor correction?

steamnputer

p.s. these boards have not what anyone has been promised, they seem not to OC all that great but they are stable once you get them going.-not saying they don't OC- but this thing tanks my buddies Dell XPS gen 4 with a 256 nivida card anyday of the week, he runs warm, I run stone cold with alot more to give,(farcry)


 

jose

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Well I think I've found my problem. I'm able to install XPsp2 and apply the latest nforce 6.53 & video 71.84 and the system seems to run fine .

But when I install my sblive card in pci#3 the system beeps like crazy. Then I install the sblive in pci#2 and the system hung on hardware detection, so I disabled the marvel lan.

Then the system would boot and I'd get the win startup sound but then a loud beeping sound then it would hang...

I have my scsi cntrl in pci#1 and it seems to run fine.

Does anyone have both a sblive & scsi cntroller ? In which pci slots are they in ??

I have a similar sound & scsi controller in my DFI mobo and it never gave me problems.

Also XP would not finish installing till took out the sound card.


steamnputer,

In my DFI rig I have the same power supply w/ a 6800GT & 4 - scsi drives and it's fine.

Thanks alot for the help guys..

Regards,
Jose
 

steamnputer

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Now that you mention it alot of the posts I have seen have been with or about the sblive card, maybe that is more of a problem then most think. I don't have one nor really see the need to have one, the on board is execellent.



 

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I have an Audigy 2, and for the small price the additional benefits were worth it to me. I put it in Slot 2 though, having long ago worked out that Creative cards are best in that slot.

I doubt whether I'd use an SBLive though - they should go down as one of the worst built pieces of junk in PC history.
 

steamnputer

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Originally posted by: Thorsson
I have an Audigy 2, and for the small price the additional benefits were worth it to me. I put it in Slot 2 though, having long ago worked out that Creative cards are best in that slot.

I doubt whether I'd use an SBLive though - they should go down as one of the worst built pieces of junk in PC history.

Are you talking about software benefits or redueced overhead, I can't believe the quality can get much better unless you have some very sensitive ears or maybe run the volume all the way on your speakers.

Searched the forums and looks like the SBlive does qaulify as overpriced at the very least...
 

lonewolf1215

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Are you talking about software benefits or redueced overhead, I can't believe the quality can get much better unless you have some very sensitive ears or maybe run the volume all the way on your speakers.

Searched the forums and looks like the SBlive does qaulify as overpriced at the very least...
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I don't rather care for the software that is comes with. But the sound quality is definitely better than any other card I have ever had. Plus it is good for recording audio of which I do quite a bit. I would agree that the SBLive isn't the greatest card in the world but still has good quality but not for the price.



 

linus1891

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I have a little bios question.

Under Power/ACPI suspend type ther is three options :

S1(POS)
S3(STR)
S1&S3

What is this ?
 

steamnputer

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Originally posted by: linus1891
I have a little bios question.

Under Power/ACPI suspend type ther is three options :

S1(POS)
S3(STR)
S1&S3

What is this ?

These are options for your standby/power down state. ACPI or Advanced Configuration and Power Interface. They range from s0 to s5 s5 being the most power save freindly and of course hardest and longest to reawake. S0 is full system awake power to all drives and memory, cpu buses etc. I think that this board only supports up to S3 which is slow memory, powered down(low) psu and cpu powered down(off), some one correct me if i am wrong I think i have a link let me look....



yes here we are check this out.
http://www.lifsoft.com/power/faq.htm#faq1
s1 & S3 is a combination of the two.
 

Wild1

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Bad MB, crappy drivers, or Pilot error?

Bringing up a new A8N system. Finally got all the conflicts resolved. Loaded 1006 drivers (no IDE driver), Nvidia 71.84 video drivers and windows SP2. Generally seemed stable when I booted into windows but started messing with the screen resolution. Tried rotating the screen for fun and system crashed. After auto reboot, crashes again?goes on in continuous loop this way. Fortunately, I had created an image disk and had to use this to recover as everything else I did was unsuccessful.

Any ideas on what could be causing this and possible solution?

Also worried that I have a bad build or bad MB. Any suggestions on best way to test it out?
 

mlc

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you sure you weren't messing around with settings that weren't necessarily valid for your monitor/graphics combo ? If your games and stress tests run fine, then it may not be

usually a problem of this type is most likely to be related to your video card and driver.. so you may want to check to make sure you have the latest bios for your graphics card, and maybe check their forums for issues... Also it may make sense to fall back to the 66.93 drivers as they seem to be the most stable for users thus far...

 
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