*** Official ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe (nForce4) Thread ***

[garikfox]

Youll be fine use 6.53 etc. Nice HD BTW.

 

[garikfox]

Amazingly Mushkin actually wrks with this Mobo, Suprised me to Hell.. heh

Anyway, Got me this here new ram, and come to find out, it only work's in, A2,B2 Slots. Interesting advice maybe...

(Also 4x512MB ram that is Comp. with this mobo will result in a system drop to MEM DDR333 its cuz the NF4 mem controller cant handle it.)

 

[blinky2004]

Originally posted by: garikfox
Amazingly Mushkin actually wrks with this Mobo, Suprised me to Hell.. heh

Anyway, Got me this here new ram, and come to find out, it only work's in, A2,B2 Slots. Interesting advice maybe...

(Also 4x512MB ram that is Comp. with this mobo will result in a system drop to MEM DDR333 its cuz the NF4 mem controller cant handle it.)

It's not the NForce4 Memory controller as it doesn't have one. It's the memory controller in the AMD64.

The drop is not really due to dropping to 333DDR (See the large memory thread to see dividers don't impact the AMD64), many people can force 400DDR in the BIOS. The real cause of the drop is when working with 4 Dimms the setup will only work with a Command Rate of 2T instead of the 1T. Rumours suggest that this will be fixed in the upcoming Revision E (aka Venice) processors.

I believe technically the 400DDR (PC3200) standard is only for a 1 DIMM setup.

 

[Snatz]

I have some very basic questions in regards to udating chipset drivers to the newest Nvidia Nforce 4 ones that were just released on March 17th.

How do you do it cleanly? Do you simply download from Nvidia and install without removing the old ones? How do you verify which version you are using?

I used Driver Cleaner 3 (used the drop down option for "nforce chipset") last night thinking I would want a clean install of the newest drivers and guess what.....I can't boot up Windows any longer. I get a BSOD (can't read the error as it flashes quickly) and then the computer reboots on it's own. I can't even start in Safe Mode.

I realize I more than likely made a very boneheaded and rookie-like mistake here, but I'd appreciate any input you folks may have.

 

[century child]

Snatz, this happens most of the time when you use driver cleaner to remove the chipset drivers. The system can't boot if they are completely deleted. You may be able to to repair your xp install but will most likely have to do a clean install.

 

[Devistater]

Originally posted by: Snatz
I have some very basic questions in regards to udating chipset drivers to the newest Nvidia Nforce 4 ones that were just released on March 17th.

How do you do it cleanly? Do you simply download from Nvidia and install without removing the old ones? How do you verify which version you are using?

Yep, pretty much all modern nvidia drivers for graphics and chipset, just d/l and it will update anything that needs it. I've never had an issue.

Driver cleaners are most usefull say for example if you are switching from ATI to nvidia. Then you'd want to get rid of leftover parts from ATI.
Even then you'd want to switch to standard VGA driver before you switch.
This is where the cleaners came about. Because some of the cards didn't remove everything when you switched. Once in a great while a major driver upgrade needed a cleaner too, but usually it just replaced all the needed files just fine. The leftovers that didn't get removed didn't harm much usually since they just weren't used anymore.

As for chipset, yeah I never heard of using a cleaner on it.

First step is to find out what that error is. I seem to recall a MS knowledge base article on changing that option that makes the computer reboot on a BSOD instead of letting you see it. So try searching there.
Last resort would be doing a repair install on top of it.

 

[iscsidude]

Originally posted by: Snatz
I have some very basic questions in regards to udating chipset drivers to the newest Nvidia Nforce 4 ones that were just released on March 17th.

How do you do it cleanly? Do you simply download from Nvidia and install without removing the old ones? How do you verify which version you are using?

I used Driver Cleaner 3 (used the drop down option for "nforce chipset") last night thinking I would want a clean install of the newest drivers and guess what.....I can't boot up Windows any longer. I get a BSOD (can't read the error as it flashes quickly) and then the computer reboots on it's own. I can't even start in Safe Mode.

I realize I more than likely made a very boneheaded and rookie-like mistake here, but I'd appreciate any input you folks may have.

Actually, I had data corruption problems by not following NVIDIA's advice on a previous driver version.

They recommend uninstalling the Display Drivers and disabling your active AntiVirus Software.

Check it out:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/driver_installation_hints.html

 

[rickcfer]

I can't get the ATK0110 ACPI Utility driver to load from their most recent AI utility download. It says it includes a 64 bit driver but it will not load. And yes I went to the 64 bit inf. Anyone have any luck loading this driver? By the way this is for Windows XP 64 bit Edition RC2 build 1433.

 

[NeoDaywalker]

When is the ASUS A8N-SLI Premium version coming out?

 

[JJK80]

Originally posted by: NeoDaywalker
When is the ASUS A8N-SLI Premium version coming out?

Anybody?

 

[Dream Operator]

1st board - Ran for awhile with chipset fan, everything fine, but loud. Replaced with Zalman NBJ47. Quiet, but my secondary IDE never worked again. RMA'd for new board.

2nd board - Installed NBJ47 before installing the board. Was even more careful about removing the pins and used Arctic Ceramique. Took about an hour to get back into Windows on this board, memory issues. Strange considering I had the same bios settings as previous board. Finally into Windows on one stick. NVMonitor shows System temp steady around 54 celcius. Higher than I have ever seen. Had 4 or 5 programs open when the computer shut down. Turned back on. During boot, when the little blue thing is scrolling, it locked and showed some purple squares randomly over the windows boot screen. Next time and every other time I tried to boot, fans would go, but nothing more. Asus tech support says temps should not have been a problem. He suggested I focus on the power supply as possible source but agreed to RMA this one.

Now using 1st board and sent 2nd board back. First board runs f*&%ing awesome (except no sec. IDE). Can game for hours, and run a project in Nuendo that maxes the CPU, no issues (my main program for this computer). Haven't done any benchmarking as I'm on my 5th windows install in less than 3 months and I'm sick of installing software and running benchmarks so unsure about full stability yet.

I've posted this other places and was told to get a different PSU as mine is thought to be rated at 18A on the 12v rail.

I contacted ASUS tech support about the PSU. As it makes me mad that the board is rated to operate with a 350w PSU, but I am told that my 380w is not enough. He wanted to know the rating on the 3.3v. Now looking at the sticker on my PSU, I see the 12v rail is rated at 24A and the 3.3 at 28A. This information contradicts the "specs" I find on the web which state that the 12v is 18A. I guess I should trust the sticker on my PSU more. That being said, should the PSU be an issue? Asus says no. This is the PSU that comes stock with the Antec Sonata case.

I have decided to try the papst fan for the northbridge as it doesn't require removing the original heatsink and I feel better about that.

Any thoughts?

 

[imported_caf2461]

I am using the Sonata with the 380W 24A power supply no problems:

- A8N-SLI Deluxe
- 1GB RAM Kingston hyperx
- 2x GForce 6600Gt's (overclocked)
- 3x HD (2sata 1ide)
- 1x DVD player
- 1 dvd burner
- card reader
- floppy drive
- Overclocked 3200 (90 nm) (2.2 now)
- Zalman cpu cooler
- two 120mm case fans
- usb scanner and two printers
* Zalman NBJ47 chipset heatsink no fan except for front case fan.

Voltage monitor is giving me these values:

+12V: 11.712
+5V: 4,865
+3,3V: 3.232
Vcore: 1.504

The newer 380 models have 24 amps on the 12v rail.

 

[Dream Operator]

caf2461

Right on! Thanks a lot for taking the time to post. It's very helpful to know that this stuff will work.

Could you tell me more about your northbridge heatsink installation? At this point I was going to just get a quieter fan, but I really want to use my heatsink. I just can't go through losing another board though. Looking for very detailed info on how to do it right. PM me if you like.

Thanks again,

Tim

 

[steamnputer]

Originally posted by: Dream Operator

I have decided to try the papst fan for the northbridge as it doesn't require removing the original heatsink and I feel better about that.

Any thoughts?

Well I see you have tried the zalman approach and that rules that one out, not to be petty but your northbridge is actually your nforce chipset you might get a better response that way. I was following a thread for chipset cooling and it seems there were very few alternatives at this point, many were taking off old one and cleaning it apparently it gets dirty real quickly. I am tempted to use the pabst as I like there quality however I have yet to find or see a link to someone in the states that sells that size. (If you have one I would like to see it) Mine has been making noises but has not stopped, at nearly 62C (and i have really good air flow)today while doing some heavy gaming I am not thrilled with the passive aprroach even if the fan thats currently on there may add more heat then it removes. My belief and I have seen stated by others that heatsink is doing its job fine its just the crappy fan.

steamnputer

 

[squonk]

Originally posted by: Snatz
I have some very basic questions in regards to udating chipset drivers to the newest Nvidia Nforce 4 ones that were just released on March 17th.

How do you do it cleanly? Do you simply download from Nvidia and install without removing the old ones? How do you verify which version you are using?

I used Driver Cleaner 3 (used the drop down option for "nforce chipset") last night thinking I would want a clean install of the newest drivers and guess what.....I can't boot up Windows any longer. I get a BSOD (can't read the error as it flashes quickly) and then the computer reboots on it's own. I can't even start in Safe Mode.

I realize I more than likely made a very boneheaded and rookie-like mistake here, but I'd appreciate any input you folks may have.

The directions state to go to the add remove programs applet and choose nvidia drivers and the remove button which gives you a checklist of things to remove. The nforce drivers only require that you uninstall the video drivers and i would turn off sli and reboot before i remove them. This works fine for me

 

[imported_slippy]

Steamnputer, have you checked it with a second thermal diode yet?

 

[chandoo]

Hi i need some advice from active forum members.
i live in singapore, by this month end i will be moving to NY.
i am planning to assemble AMD64 desktop in singapore.
what i want is some comment on price of the desktop and components.

Components and configurations
--------------------------------------
AMD64 3500+ box cpu
Asus sli Delux MOBO
kingston 512MB DDR pci 3200 400 RAM two modules 1GB
pci graphics card lower end for S$128
Segate SATA 120GB 8MB cache
Philips latest monitor 8ms response zero dead pixel garuntee
light aluminum casing
power supply dual voltage 450W
WIFI b/g pci card
dailup fax modem
LG tri format DVD drive

the above configuration is costing S$2150 sing-dollor
which is equivalent to $1310 USD.

i need some comments
is it good price to buy from singapore
or
can i get the same configuration in US for $1310USD

all comments are appericated

Regards

 

[steamnputer]

Originally posted by: slippy
Steamnputer, have you checked it with a second thermal diode yet?

no, have not had a chance but I will be home all day today and some thunderstorms are on the horizon so I will be shut down in the interum. I should have some concrete results before the end of the week.

I have found a new game which test all the hardware "Joint Operations", I was hitting 62+ with current thermal couple on the chipset with my fans running about half way up.

steamnputer

 

[steamnputer]

Originally posted by: slippy
Steamnputer, have you checked it with a second thermal diode yet?

[/quote]
Like I've said, without a fan on the heatsink directly, just with fans in the case pointed in the general direction of an asus heatsink without the fan... I am getting temps on the heatsink with a digital thermometerof 42 to 44 C.

That is about 108 F to 114 F... so yes, it should feel hot, and it will get to a peak of heat only when the system is being stressed.

When the system is not stressed, my reading was about 36 to 39 C, but only after start-up.

Once the chipset is stressed once, it doesn't quite go back down to its original level. It hovers aroun 40-42C.

[/quote]

slippy I need to stress something with you ~asus probe is not, I repeat not looking at the chipset heatsink for its temp~. I have been following that other thread, becareful what some of those folks are saying. Although I like the swiftech fan, but man thats gonna be close who ever put that in didnt have a second card in and my 6600 gt will barely if at clear that.

I ran it for awhile today and I am letting cool down now, it was 61C while I was gaming, thats about as high as I have seen it- moving the TC shortly off of one of my GPUs.


steamnputer

 

[imported_slippy]

Steam... you already stressed that a few weeks ago, and told me it was on the winbond controller.

In that very paragraph you just quoted me on, I said that I tested it with a digital thermometer.

All of those readings are from the same digital thermometer that we used to measure our water temperature to pass inspection when we finished building our house. That means that thermometer has been tested against a calibrated thermometer which the water inspector used.

Those are not asus probe readings.

If I am misperceiving what you are saying to me here, then I apologize.

 

[steamnputer]

dddoooppp
ah I see i pasted the wrong one, but that one was farther up.. never mind

I switched it yesterday starting up in couple hours.

 

[CT9A]

Help! Win XP Pro won't install!

The problem is that the install doesn't recognise the Win XP cd after the EULA. I thought that it might be the slipstream cd I made, so I tried again with the original cd (legit SP1 retail) with the same result. Then I thought it might be the optical drive (Plextor 716SA), so I tried again with two different IDE drives, again no change. This is my setup:

ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe
ASUS 6800GT
1 GB (2x512 MB) GeIL DDR400
2x Maxtor 300 GB SATA 16MB cache
Plextor 716SA
Enermax Noistaker 600W SLI PSU

 

[ck2005]

Are the JumperFree and DRAM settings linked so that if you one the other goes to AUTO on everything?

TIA

ck

 

[steamnputer]

Originally posted by: CT9A
Help! Win XP Pro won't install!

The problem is that the install doesn't recognise the Win XP cd after the EULA. I thought that it might be the slipstream cd I made, so I tried again with the original cd (legit SP1 retail) with the same result. Then I thought it might be the optical drive (Plextor 716SA), so I tried again with two different IDE drives, again no change. This is my setup:

ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe
ASUS 6800GT
1 GB (2x512 MB) GeIL DDR400
2x Maxtor 300 GB SATA 16MB cache
Plextor 716SA
Enermax Noistaker 600W SLI PSU

When you say tried again with 2 different IDE drives did you mean ones with windows installed on it already or 2 ide optical drives? Next question are you running the drives ion RAID, if so have you set them up to do so. If not you may have to manually set the jumper free settings for those drives or atleast the one you are installing to.

steamnputer

 

[garikfox]

Originally posted by: CT9A
Help! Win XP Pro won't install!

The problem is that the install doesn't recognise the Win XP cd after the EULA. I thought that it might be the slipstream cd I made, so I tried again with the original cd (legit SP1 retail) with the same result. Then I thought it might be the optical drive (Plextor 716SA), so I tried again with two different IDE drives, again no change. This is my setup:

ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe
ASUS 6800GT
1 GB (2x512 MB) GeIL DDR400
2x Maxtor 300 GB SATA 16MB cache
Plextor 716SA
Enermax Noistaker 600W SLI PSU

That's because your using 1007-004. It's a bug I got the same thing on a clean install, I just flashed 1006 then once windows is re-loaded I re flashed 1007-004