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TracyG

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Checked capacitors and as far as I can tell they are not RLZ 0333, but some are so close to processor I cannot read them. How did you guys get a good look at these?
 

Algere

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Originally posted by: JCali
I just built the following system and it seems to be running well:

AMD 64 3400+
Asus K8V deluxe SE
Corsair DDR TwinX1024-3200LLPT 2X512MB
ATI Radeon 9800XT
WD SATA 160MB harddrive

The only problem is when booting the computer, there is about a 30 sec delay after it finishes detecting the harddrives and before it starts loading windows. It is annoying - anyone have any ideas?

Tried disabling any unused SATA controllers?

 

Algere

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Originally posted by: TracyG
Checked capacitors and as far as I can tell they are not RLZ 0333, but some are so close to processor I cannot read them. How did you guys get a good look at these?

I just assumed if one or more of the capacitors weren't listed as RLZ 0333 then the rest of the capacitors weren't bad either, the ones I couldn't see for the matter and the capacitor issue only affects a small batch of K8V-D motherboards. IMO the capacitor issue sounds more serious than it really is.
 

lmm

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IMO the capacitor issue sounds more serious than it really is

Algere, unless you have seen the bad capacitors i wouldn't be so fast underestimating the issue.
My first mobo had the bad capacitors and i can tell you it wasn't pretty at all, straight out of the box, 2 of said capacitors (the ones rigth by the cpu) were leaking.

TracyG
If i were you i'd really take a peek at those capacitors to rule out the chance you got some of the bad stuff. In my mobo it was very easy to spot the bad ones has they were leaking through the top cap. Check yours for some signs of dirt on the metallic top cap.

best luck
 

TracyG

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Ops, sorry about the double post. My capacitors all look clean and all the ones where I can see numbers start with RLS not RLZ so hoping I am ok on this count.

Still getting "System Failed VGA on cold boot" Reset and then up and running without trouble. I am getting to hate that woman's voice, though.

 

Algere

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Originally posted by: lmm
IMO the capacitor issue sounds more serious than it really is

Algere, unless you have seen the bad capacitors i wouldn't be so fast underestimating the issue.
My first mobo had the bad capacitors and i can tell you it wasn't pretty at all, straight out of the box, 2 of said capacitors (the ones rigth by the cpu) were leaking.

TracyG
If i were you i'd really take a peek at those capacitors to rule out the chance you got some of the bad stuff. In my mobo it was very easy to spot the bad ones has they were leaking through the top cap. Check yours for some signs of dirt on the metallic top cap.

best luck

I meant there's ppl saying stay away from the K8V-D because of bad capacitors when in reality this issue has only affected a small batch of motherboards. I'm sure it's serious if you have one w/ bad capacitors but the way it's spreading around it sounds as if there's a greater number of K8V-D boards with bad capacitors then there really are.
 

Algere

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Originally posted by: TracyG
Ops, sorry about the double post. My capacitors all look clean and all the ones where I can see numbers start with RLS not RLZ so hoping I am ok on this count.

Still getting "System Failed VGA on cold boot" Reset and then up and running without trouble. I am getting to hate that woman's voice, though.

You can shut her up in the BIOS
 

lmm

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I meant there's ppl saying stay away from the K8V-D because of bad capacitors when in reality this issue has only affected a small batch of motherboards

k, misunderstood you... sorry and i agree, the bad capacitor issue was surely only a prob with early batch of mobos
 

Algere

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Originally posted by: lmm
I meant there's ppl saying stay away from the K8V-D because of bad capacitors when in reality this issue has only affected a small batch of motherboards

k, misunderstood you... sorry and i agree, the bad capacitor issue was surely only a prob with early batch of mobos

no prob
 

TracyG

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Thanks Algere, I know I can turn off voice alert in BIOS, but then I would have to rely on beeps if another problem.

Well, maybe I'll turn it off till VGA issue is cleared up anyway ; )
 

yongsiklee

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Apr 5, 2004
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Sorry I posted at the other place by mistake.

My problem is:

Booting pauses for 20 seconds just after it starts to boot.
It takes about 15~20 seconds to recognize, I guess, my primary IDE disk. After that it is a breeze, very fast.

To explain more specifically, I have a VIA raid 0 setup for boot device and an WD200 hard drive in a primary master IDE channel for storage. If I unplug(disconnect) the WD hard disk, booting is very fast, not pausing for 20 seconds trying to find(locate or recognize) IDE drives(my WD hard disk).

If I reconnect the WD hard disk, booting pauses back for about 15~20 seconds just after I start the computer.

What should I do? Is there any way to boot without pausing for 20 seconds with my hard disk?

Thank you for your prompt reply.
:frown:
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: yongsiklee
Sorry I posted at the other place by mistake.

My problem is:

Booting pauses for 20 seconds just after it starts to boot.
It takes about 15~20 seconds to recognize, I guess, my primary IDE disk. After that it is a breeze, very fast.

To explain more specifically, I have a VIA raid 0 setup for boot device and an WD200 hard drive in a primary master IDE channel for storage. If I unplug(disconnect) the WD hard disk, booting is very fast, not pausing for 20 seconds trying to find(locate or recognize) IDE drives(my WD hard disk).

If I reconnect the WD hard disk, booting pauses back for about 15~20 seconds just after I start the computer.

What should I do? Is there any way to boot without pausing for 20 seconds with my hard disk?

Thank you for your prompt reply.
:frown:

What are your boot settings in the bios? Is your drive hooked up properly? Set to master on the correct IDE connector? Go into boot settings and make sure your RAID is the primary boot device. I think I have mine setup as RAID, Floppy, CD-ROM. I don't think I even have the bios looking for the IDE drive on bootup. I see it in Windows though and it does detect the drive during boot. Maybe it's looking for an operating system on the storage drive because you have it set as a boot device?
 

yongsiklee

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My problem got solved by another friendly expert

I had my wd ide drive as master and that was wrong.
I had to have it as a single drive.
Booting paused because my WD ide drive set as master was looking for its slave.
After having it as a single drive it all worked fine. In about 10 seconds I'm at the desktop
 

JulesMaximus

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G0d damned RAID crashed tonight. I had the computer on for a couple hours and just as I was coming down stairs to use the computer I see the boot screen and it is halted at a message saying that no disk was detected, press g to continue. I'm fed up with this. I'm sending this motherboard back and waiting until the nforce3 250 boards are out. You can bet it won't be an ASUS board I'll buy either.

I'VE HAD IT!!!
 

dntreid

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This solved my problem too. I've been wondering why it took so long to boot up - pausing at the initial graphic for about 10+ seconds, and then after all the POST stuff, I'd get a black screen for about 15-20 seconds, then the hard drive would finally start spinning and the Windows bootup screen would show up. It was taking forever to boot up. Took the jumper off my hard drive so it is now a "single" drive instead of "master", since I don't have a slave drive connected to my IDE1, and now it boots up without a hic up. I've had no other problems with this board since I got it, though I must say the documentation on installing drivers at initial setup is confusing and lacking. I'm still not sure if I got things right between the different IDE/SATA/RAID controller options on the VIA and Promise controller chips. But somehow, all 5 of my drives are working (3 IDE hard drives, a DVD +R/RW & DVD-ROM). Don't know if they're at peak performance though.

Thanks for posting your solution.
 

Algere

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
G0d damned RAID crashed tonight. I had the computer on for a couple hours and just as I was coming down stairs to use the computer I see the boot screen and it is halted at a message saying that no disk was detected, press g to continue. I'm fed up with this. I'm sending this motherboard back and waiting until the nforce3 250 boards are out. You can bet it won't be an ASUS board I'll buy either.

I'VE HAD IT!!!

tough luck
 

THELAIR

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my original issue was due to the first batch having bad capacitors.

my 2nd issue was with a new fresh board that did not have the capcitor issue, and I base my judgement on that board being completly useless.

Perhaps it is my systems configuration, my all SATA setup, or somthing else. Perhaps if I had my K8V configured in a system wiht components of those on here who are not having any issues in my system, i wouldnt have any issues either.

but that is total bull sh!t in my mind due to the fact that as soon as I swapped out the 2nd k8v and replaced with an MSI k8T everything worked!! SAME EXACT hardware.

based on what i have experienced and have heard here and elsewhere I am as secure in my statement by suggesting users avoid the K8V as I ever have.
 

LeeC

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Thats exactly why I have been telling people for two omnths to go to the MSI..I have not had a single problem with the MSI, and I have built three since the first of the year..A64+MSI=reliablility.Period.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: LeeC
Thats exactly why I have been telling people for two omnths to go to the MSI..I have not had a single problem with the MSI, and I have built three since the first of the year..A64+MSI=reliablility.Period.

I bought this board primarily because of the positive reviews on Anandtech but I don't know if it will be worth waiting for nforce3 250 or should I just buy the MSI board and be done with it? Will nforce3 250 make much difference? Of course I may have different issues with nforce3 250 since it will be brand new technology.

Is it possible that one of my WD Raptor hard drives is bad? They don't make any funny noises, they seem to run fine for a little while (few days to a week) and then suddenly my RAID breaks. I've gone through this 4-5 times now. Formatting and loading Windows. When it works it is very fast. Much faster than the 7200rpm IDE drive. I don't think it is heat related, as I have 3 drives in a Lian-Li PC60 case in the hard drive cage which is right behind 2 80mm fans-case temps never get very hot and cpu temps are always well below the maximum. Everything is stable when booting from the IDE drive though.
 

Algere

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Personal experience the K8V-D has worked fine for me, RAID and all. As for why ppl are waiting for nForce3 250 it's the features which brings new things to the table. The performance difference between the nForce3 250 and the K8T800 are negligible.

Finally it's your call MSI from what I heard and ASUS from personal experience are both good motherboards and yea there's always the possibility some bug or glitch that could arise & affect upcoming boards based on the nForce3 250 chipset as it is with new technology.

I suppose if you can wait the nForce 3 250 does sound tempting from the previews I've seen.
 

LeeC

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When I had my Asus K8, It could be anything that would go wrong, but mostly it was video issues. If you have a buggy board, anything can popup. When I went to the msi, everything cleared up, and I have not had the panels off since. I got the bad ASUS on my first build, and msi cleaned it all up, so I much appreciate their boards. The cool thing about it is I changed to the msi, and changed to Nvidia 5900's, and the puter still punched all the way through booting to the desktop,without repair. I just had to load the right video drivers, and it was done..Over
 

CubicZirconia

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It's been awhile since I last posted here, but it turned out that my lockups were due to a bad 9800pro, not isues with the mobo or my psu. And that's my update.
 

Horsee

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So, I just bought the K8V SE board and I'm trying to format a single SATA 160GB drive and the manual only talks about setting up RAID! Raid would be great in I could afford another drive but I only have the one for now. Can I format this single SATA drive??? It's a Maxtor and I know the jumper is set correctly to master on the drive. I'm using the Primary SATA plug...

WHAT AM I DOING WRONG HERE? When I go to install windows, it says that there is no drive detected?

Uh? help... :gift::heart::light::heart::gift::frown:
 
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