*** Official ASUS K8V/DELUXE (K8T800) Thread ***

[JohnFante]

I have a external Plextor DVD-burner. It is connecet through USB/Firewire. Can i set the BIOS so that i can boot from this? And how? I am runnin 1004.

By the way, there are new Marvell Ykon drivers on the ASUS.de homepage.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Shadizzy]

Sup, I have a small problem and i hope you guys can help me out,

First I checked around on random pages to see if my question was asked, plus the search function was no help, soo dont hurt me if its been asked

First off i have the K8V-SE Deluxe, on a Athlon 64 3200+ Corsair XMS 1 gig 400mhz antec trupower 380watt ps

As you may of known it has 4 serial ata ports on the mother board,

I currently own 2 western digital 120 gig sata hardrives which take up the primary and secondary serial ata slots,

that leaves me with the two primary and secondary raid ata slots open, Now i am planning on getting a third serial ata hardrive, I have no interest in a raid chain I just want to have a third hardrive on my computer without any problems.

Would anyone know how i can go about completing this

I am using the latest bios firmware also im not sure the version number though :|

 

[carni]

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
Is it seeing it in the BIOS even?

No it isnt.

 

[fodao]

Carni,

If the Bios does not see your SATA so it is probably dead on arrival! I had the same problem and I took the HD back to exchange with a new one. Yuo should have yours checked in another machine.

 

[Marklo]

Mr Coyote,

I don't know if this helps, but I'm running an A64 3200+ at 220 FSB on a K8V (not an se or delux) its a clawhammer core not a newcastle.

Running this way for over a month now with no problems.

 

[fbrdphreak]

Originally posted by: JohnFante
I have a external Plextor DVD-burner. It is connecet through USB/Firewire. Can i set the BIOS so that i can boot from this? And how? I am runnin 1004.

By the way, there are new Marvell Ykon drivers on the ASUS.de homepage.

Thanks in advance.

I believe you could boot off of it. I have had a USB flash drive hooked up while playing with settings before and I know I can boot off of it. If you press F8 during BIOS startup, it will bring up a "Boot To" menu where you can select a one-time boot device. Or of course you can change it in the BIOS itself.

 

[imported_James]

Two all the computer gods out there, let me introduce myself. I am that guy that has money burning a hole in his pocket, read a few great reviews on the hardware I bought, it finally arrived and I don't know where to start.

ASUS K8V Deluxe SE
AMD 64 3200+
Thermaltake Silent Boost K8 CPU Fan
Corsair 512 XMS3200 400 X2
Enermax 470 Noisetaker
Western Digital Raptor 74GB Serial ATA
Maxtor 120 GB Serial ATA
ATI Radeon 9800PRO
Pioneer DVD burner
LiteOn CD reader and burner.
Win XP Pro

I think that?s it.......

I have some basic computer knowledge, but the more I read, the more I get confused. I'm hearing all kinds of things by people that have a similar setup that I have,,,Memory problems, bad capacitors, problems loading Windows XP, Bios, Loading drivers in a certain order, memory sticks that go in slots 1 and 3, exploding....Well maybe not exploding, but you get the point.

I have no interest in overcloking, I just want to play some games,edit some video, surf the internet.

Oh wise computer gods I need your guidance and patience.

So I put together, turn it on, now what??

I know I'm asking a lot of your time, but I am a firm believer in "what goes around comes around"

"You can have everything you want in life, if just help enough people get what they want"--Zig Ziglar.

All responses will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

-------------------------
James Jacobs

 

[fodao]

James,

Have you put together the computer? Did it turn it on? This is the first thing you should do. If you don't know how to put it together, you should read some articles about how to assemble a computer. Do a Google search. Here it is an example http://www.learnthat.com/courses/computer/buildpc/assemble.shtml

If you run into problems when you turn it on, then you can come back and ask the "computer gods" fo some guidance.

BTW, I could definitely help you with the "money burning a hole" problem...

F.

 

[imported_James]

Thanks for the response, by the way, great website. The computer is not put together yet, I'm awaiting my thermal compound....
I know what I asked was very general, My bad....I'll break it down.

I'm looking for a recommended order of setup.

From what I read,
1. Put it together.
2. Turn it on...cross fingers
3. Adjust bios for boot sequence to my Win xp CD
4. Than in that time I press F6 to load the drivers (disk) that will have my computer recognize my Sata Harddrives..
5. Load Win XP pro.

At what point do I go in and adjust all the crazy setting in the bios? And at what point should I run an Memtest? (or should I). Has any body had to put there memory in slots 1 and 3 so it would work?

ASUS K8V Deluxe SE
AMD 64 3200+
Thermaltake Silent Boost K8 CPU Fan
Corsair 512 XMS3200 400 X2
Enermax 470 Noisetaker
Western Digital Raptor 74GB Serial ATA
Maxtor 120 GB Serial ATA
ATI Radeon 9800PRO
Pioneer DVD burner
LiteOn CD reader and burner.
Win XP Pro

Thank You!!

 

[fbrdphreak]

James,
I have a 512MB stick of Kingston HyperX PC-4000 in slots 1 & 3 if I'm not mistaken. That should work just fine.
As far as BIOS settings, get EVERYTHING setup and installed before you change BIOS settings. Get it all setup and then maybe run MEMTEST or your fav burn-in program. Once you're all set, from there play with BIOS settings. The safe ones to change are more optimization settgins, like Disable Floppy Setting and crap like that. I wouldn't recommend overclocking with this board as it does not have a PCI/AGP lock and you can quite easily corrupt some rather important data on your HDD if you OC too far
<---Been there, done that
You also might change your RAM settings to make sure it will run @ listed speeds, but the BIOS does tend to pick faster latencies. Use a program like CPU-Z to check the default latencies set by the BIOS and change if you like. Something unique about the K8V is that it lets you change like a dozen extra RAM latency settings, most of which I personally don't know what they do and won't make much of an impact. Use Google or your mem manufacturer's web page to find which settings are the most common ones to change, as I don't remember off the top of my head; but I'm sure someone reading this can ramble them off to you.
BTW, just in case you don't know, b4 anything else: update windows and load AV software. As was on the AT News the other day, an unpatched/unprotected PC can be infected in less than 20 minutes. I would try to get a hold of one of MS's Update CDs or maybe pre-download all that you can. Apply as many updates as you can WITHOUT being physically plugged in to phone/network and install AV software b4 you plug-in. Then IMMEDIATELY download &amp; install all Critical Updates (altho I would personally stay away from SP2 at this point) and update your AV software. Write back with any other questions, we are here to help!

 

[TheVirus]

I havent read through the whole thread and the search function didnt return anything valid for my queries. Here goes:

Ok, I know both of these sticks work and they are fine. I had just used them in my previous setup and they ran flawlessly for a year or so.

My problem/issue is this. I can only use one stick of RAM at a time. If I use both my board will tell me that 'Your PC could not boot due to CPU overclocking'. If I use one itll boot just fine under the same config. When I say both sticks dont work in tandem I mean the system shows no video output. I dont get a POST, I get absolutely nothing. Just the announcement that I am overclocking, which I'm not.

I called Asus Tech Support and they told me I need to change the bios config to the timings of the two chips. I have found via searching that 2.5-3-3-7 would be my config, or there abouts.

Problem is the bios has more options than that. I searched and people have asked but I didnt see any definitive response. Here are the options:

CAS
TRC
TRFC
TRCD
TWR
TRWT
TRAS
TRP
TWCL

There are a few more like:

AsyncLat
Read Preamble
2t Command

I dont know what to set those values to. I dont know why my RAM wont work together, I really need both sticks in due to video editing and such. It feels incredibly slow running with 512 instead of 1gb.

Help me please, I am desperate.

 

[TheVirus]

Originally posted by: TheVirus
I havent read through the whole thread and the search function didnt return anything valid for my queries. Here goes:

Ok, I know both of these sticks work and they are fine. I had just used them in my previous setup and they ran flawlessly for a year or so.

My problem/issue is this. I can only use one stick of RAM at a time. If I use both my board will tell me that 'Your PC could not boot due to CPU overclocking'. If I use one itll boot just fine under the same config. When I say both sticks dont work in tandem I mean the system shows no video output. I dont get a POST, I get absolutely nothing. Just the announcement that I am overclocking, which I'm not.

I called Asus Tech Support and they told me I need to change the bios config to the timings of the two chips. I have found via searching that 2.5-3-3-7 would be my config, or there abouts.

Problem is the bios has more options than that. I searched and people have asked but I didnt see any definitive response. Here are the options:

CAS
TRC
TRFC
TRCD
TWR
TRWT
TRAS
TRP
TWCL

There are a few more like:

AsyncLat
Read Preamble
2t Command

I dont know what to set those values to. I dont know why my RAM wont work together, I really need both sticks in due to video editing and such. It feels incredibly slow running with 512 instead of 1gb.

Help me please, I am desperate.

I talked to Asus again and they told me to check this and that, pretty much a generic auto response. I told them that it has absolutely nothing to do with windows and drivers, its a bios/memory issue. I await their reply to that, hopefully it wont be something out of a folder.

If anyone else has any ideas please feel free to contribute. If I dont get this solved within a day or so I will be RMA'ing this motherboard back to ZZF and grab the MSI NEO-whatsit.

 

[fbrdphreak]

Definitely return this mobo if you can. the MSI K8N Neo Platinum nForce3-250Gb is definitely a better board. As far as the mem settings, here are the ones you need to worry about:
2.5 = CAS
tRCD = 3
tRP = 3
tRAS = 7

Leave the other settings at default, including "2T Command" as it does not seem like you have very high performance RAM. Full system specs including model numbers would be appreciated and are generally included in tech support help. Put it in your profile if you like
Good luck and write back with other questions
GET THE K8N NEO PLATINUM!!

 

[TheVirus]

Think I am... piece of crapAsus.

Ive tried every timing combination known to mankind and nothing works. Corsair was a big help with this and that, but overall it still doesnt work.

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=241143&amp;ps=ho6 that board?

 

[carni]

Well I have the BIOS detecting the drive, but I cant access once logged in. When I check my file manager the drive doesnt show up. Any ideas?

 

[Triggerhappy007]

Originally posted by: TheVirus
Think I am... piece of crapAsus.

Ive tried every timing combination known to mankind and nothing works. Corsair was a big help with this and that, but overall it still doesnt work.

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=241143&amp;ps=ho6 that board?

Did you update your BIOS to the current version. I heard that updated BIOSes are less picky at RAM.

 

[TheVirus]

Yea I have the latest, but no workie. Someone hack the bios so it works for me.

 

[DukeN]

I REALLY HATE THIS MOBO :disgust:

Would appreciate someone helping me out (I've read most of the 40 pages on this thread).

I have:

K8V SE Deluxe
A64 3200
Radeon 9800 Pro 256MB
Maxtor 120GB SATA
Couple of IDE ROM Drives
OCZ PC 3200 2X 512 2-3-3-7 RAM (the one with copper heatsinks)

The issue I first got trying to do a clean install with Win XP Pro SP1 was HD not found. So of course, I did the whole thing with making a SATA driver floppy (not the raid, just the SATA) and pressing F6 during setup. Again, no good. After the "Starting Windows" tab, your hard drive is not found error #@%@#%

Thought maybe if I changed the BIOS to IDE only for the promise controller, it would fix it. No luck yet again (yep, tried the F6 driver thing as well after).

Flashed to the newest BIOS (remove battery, jumper, etc). Repeated above steps. No luck.

(Please note that the HDD was recognized upon POST and in the BIOS every time)

Then I tried to manually force a Windows XP install from MS-DOS. Booted into DOS Mode with CD support, went to the \i386 folder, ran WINNT.EXE.
This time it copied files fine, but upon the reboot, got a BSOD

Checked RAM settings. Tried various settings (changed RAM to 400 ie 2:1, tried settings for latency ie 2-3-3-7 as well as auto), changed memory banks as well. Even tried it with only one stick. It seems to be either BSOD or no HD found either way for me.

Does someone have a definitive answer to this one? All I wanna do is install XP. I would GREATLY appreciate it.

 

[DukeN]

GUYS I FOUND MY PROBLEM!!!

Stupid RETARDS at ASUS - the HD works fine on my PRI_RAID SATA port but not on the stand alone RAID-1 or RAID-2.

Idiots..lets just hope this XP install works now...

 

[fodao]

Duke,

If it still doesn't work the problem could be memory. I couldn't install XP in th ebeginning. i got bad checksum error. I changed the memory to Kingston and had no problems.

 

[DukeN]

Thanks for the advice fodao.

Well I got the install to work with 1 stick of RAM. Booted into XP, as soon as I put in the Asus driver CD, specifically starting the NIC install, huge memory leaks/freezing. Shut off the PC (had to power it down).

Turned it back on - HD not found!

Plugged HD into other mobo connector (not the PRI_RAID OR SEC_RAID) but just SATA_1, XP starts to load but BSOD.

This board is downright terrible IMO

 

[User5]

Originally posted by: DukeN
GUYS I FOUND MY PROBLEM!!!

Stupid RETARDS at ASUS - the HD works fine on my PRI_RAID SATA port but not on the stand alone RAID-1 or RAID-2.

Idiots..lets just hope this XP install works now...

How is that ASUS fault? You obviously put the Promise Drivers on the floppy disk, when the SATA1 (none of them say raid i dont know what your talking about there) is for the VIA controller!! Then you fixed the problem by finally plugging it into the correct controller. I used the SATA1 input with the CORRECT drivers on the floppy. Also just to make sure, after it says that No Hard drive is found, you need to press S, insert the disk, and press ENTER. I dont know what you did when you tried to "force" the xp install, or why you would do that, but that could be a part of the problem as well. Try resetting whatever you fooled around with in the BIOS, and just install it the proper way.

This was my first build, and I knew little to nothing about computers, and I set up this board NO problem. This is an excellent motherboard, and if you are making careless mistakes like that, something tells me this is a 100% user error problem. I dont know what drivers you installed, and what controller you are using, but the SATA1 VIA controller goes with the VIARAID drivers, and the PRISATA PROMISE controller goes with the PROMISE drivers. You cant just mix and match, guess and choose, etc...

 

[fbrdphreak]

Originally posted by: User5

Originally posted by: DukeN
GUYS I FOUND MY PROBLEM!!!

Stupid RETARDS at ASUS - the HD works fine on my PRI_RAID SATA port but not on the stand alone RAID-1 or RAID-2.

Idiots..lets just hope this XP install works now...

How is that ASUS fault? You obviously put the Promise Drivers on the floppy disk, when the SATA1 (none of them say raid i dont know what your talking about there) is for the VIA controller!! Then you fixed the problem by finally plugging it into the correct controller. I used the SATA1 input with the CORRECT drivers on the floppy. Also just to make sure, after it says that No Hard drive is found, you need to press S, insert the disk, and press ENTER. I dont know what you did when you tried to "force" the xp install, or why you would do that, but that could be a part of the problem as well. Try resetting whatever you fooled around with in the BIOS, and just install it the proper way.

This was my first build, and I knew little to nothing about computers, and I set up this board NO problem. This is an excellent motherboard, and if you are making careless mistakes like that, something tells me this is a 100% user error problem. I dont know what drivers you installed, and what controller you are using, but the SATA1 VIA controller goes with the VIARAID drivers, and the PRISATA PROMISE controller goes with the PROMISE drivers. You cant just mix and match, guess and choose, etc...

I think what Duke was referring to is that companies like Asus should have the foresight and quality design capability to make a motherboard that does not require any complicated or sketchy install "tricks." My install went fairly straight forward as well, but the inclusion of TWO SATA controllers complicates setup in general. I agree, Asus really dropped the ball with this board overall. A lot of people have RAM issues, the SATA controllers are a pain in the ass to use the way you want, and the simple fact that it is a VIA chipset makes it even worse. I never had an Asus before this board and I probably won't again. Had an MSI nForce2 w/my AXP and had NO issues with it. K8N Neo Platinum here I come...

 

[Kaijufan]

Duke N did you ever find out how to fix this problem? Im having the same problem as you, with Windows XP not seeing my SATA hard drive. I even got Windows 98 to install on it, but Windows XP just wont install, no matter what I do.

 

[SuPrEIVIE]

OK i have the K8V SE DELUXE
3200+
80GB SE (WD)
Ti4200
i am going to get 3500PC KINGMAX RAM,and
160 sataHD(SEAGATE)

THis is my first time building so can someone please be kind enough to give me some pointers for things like BIOS use the one on CD or get the latest via floppy and how to do so?I have skimmed through the 17 pgs and a little confused

thanks in advance!