**OFFICIAL ASUS P4B533-V (845G) THREAD**

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Micas

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Jun 21, 2002
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Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: Micas
I just bought the P4B533-V and other gear as follows

P4B533-V from CDRexpress - $184
P4/2.4B & AS3 from New Egg - $421
Xtreme DDR PC3200 512meg from PC-Pitstop - $188

For a total of $793, which includes shipping (2 day air).

I'm upgrading from a P3/1.0GHz BX board, so this should be a significant upgrade. Hopefully I can use the information in this forum to overclock it. My target is ~2.8 Ghz. I hope the memory doesn't cause a problem. I've read that the 512 meg dual sided modules don't overclock as well, but I bought it as oposed to 2x256 because I might want to go up to 1gig of ram soon.

I should have the stuff installed by the middle of next week, and I'll post my experiences and scores then.

Micas


Wow. Could you have spent anymore?

I think one of the tricks to a good o/c experience is not shooting your wad on 1st wave solutions. Wait about a week or two. Youll pay 50% less and get the same benefits.
I could have bought a P4/2.53 and spent a heck of a lot more.. Really, I think I found pretty much the lowest prices possible for the components I wanted. Sure the Asus board is pricey, and the memory is also, but I didn't want to buy crap. You think it would have cost 50% less waiting a week or two? You're on crack buddy. Sure prices drop every week, but 50%? When I find something I want, I buy it. If it costs me more than if I wait a while, I don't care..

Micas
 

Bobbyeyes

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Jun 3, 2002
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Quote

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Originally posted by: mcveigh
what is the difference between the 533-v and the 533-vm
I know the vm is micro atx but are any features missing from it?
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It is a totally different layout...besides the three pci slots.
sometimes the cheaper sibling of a deluxe mobo is the same board , less the key soldering points.
(mem slots ie. some have two, others three, yet the ghost soldering points are there)
i thought i was going to be able to locate the overvolt ghost soldering points,mem overvolt points ect.
and let a soldering pencil be my best friend...
no such luck
v vs vm is a different board.
i did not want onboard video.
even though disabled ive read that theoretically, the induction, could effect performance...who knows




 

Ardy

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Jun 20, 2002
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Originally posted by: mcveigh
how many fan headers are on the board?
thanks!

Three including the CPU fan header;

Benedikt: The highest setting for 100 FSB is 3/4 = 266DDR

I set mine up yesterday and got it to 157FSB @4-5 mem ratio=392 DDR it ran all my normal apps but crashed in Prime 95 after 15 min.Now I'll see where I can get it rock stable.
 

oldfart

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Dec 2, 1999
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Ardy, or anyone else with this board.....can you use the 3:4 ratio above 132 FSB, or only 4:5?
 

barebottoms

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Mar 26, 2000
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Hi all,

I'm finally getting out of the 1970's and building me a P4 system. Anyway, I couldn't decide between this board and the 850 asus board, since RDRAM1066 wasn't readily available and cost a fortune, I opted for this board.

System will be this board with a 1.8A with plans to go to a 533 based CPU when prices come down a little bit.

So memory bandwidth will be an issue so I bought some CMX512-3200 Memory.
Question one, why is this CAS 2.5 and the XMS 3000 modules at CAS 2? Will this make a difference?

How big of an issue will the memory be when I do go to a 533 based CPU?

The rest of the system will an Alpha, with TT fan.

Guess that will be okay.

Comments appreciated. Thanks.
 

Ardy

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Jun 20, 2002
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Originally posted by: oldfart
Ardy, or anyone else with this board.....can you use the 3:4 ratio above 132 FSB, or only 4:5?


Above 133 you have the choices of 1:1 4:3 or 4:5
 

Ardy

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Jun 20, 2002
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Oh,and it also has available a memory cas setting of 1.5 ....Maybe ready for DDR 2 ????
 

tobih

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May 30, 2002
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anyone tried the P4B533-V board with 2x 512 XMS3000 ???
i cant get it running >133 with 2x 512 modules installed !!!
 

Strafe

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Oct 11, 1999
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Corsairs XMS3000 and XMS3200 are the same modules, they are just tested differently.
 

NightOtter

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Jun 22, 2002
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This may be a noob question, but then I am new to being at the depths of Mobo's...

I just puchase the Asus P4B533-V as part of a whole system I am putting together from scratch.

How difficult is to over-ride or disable the on board video/audio if, at some point, I intend to use 3rd party boards? Can it be done through the Bios only? Also, if I do this will it free up performance for motherboard?

thanks,

Otto
 

Ardy

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Jun 20, 2002
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Originally posted by: NightOtter
This may be a noob question, but then I am new to being at the depths of Mobo's...

I just puchase the Asus P4B533-V as part of a whole system I am putting together from scratch.

How difficult is to over-ride or disable the on board video/audio if, at some point, I intend to use 3rd party boards? Can it be done through the Bios only? Also, if I do this will it free up performance for motherboard?

thanks,

Otto

As soon as you plug in the 3rd party video,it will take presidence,on board will only be recognized if you don't have another AGP card installed
 

NightOtter

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Jun 22, 2002
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Originally posted by: Ardy
Originally posted by: NightOtter
This may be a noob question, but then I am new to being at the depths of Mobo's...

I just puchase the Asus P4B533-V as part of a whole system I am putting together from scratch.

How difficult is to over-ride or disable the on board video/audio if, at some point, I intend to use 3rd party boards? Can it be done through the Bios only? Also, if I do this will it free up performance for motherboard?

thanks,

Otto

As soon as you plug in the 3rd party video,it will take presidence,on board will only be recognized if you don't have another AGP card installed

Ardy,

Thanks. I'll assume this goes for the on board sound as well.

And now on to learning about OC...

Otto
 

barebottoms

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Mar 26, 2000
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Hi All,

I need some suggestions.

I am not get any where near the FSB posted here. My board boots up and runs between FSB 140 to 145. Anything above that does not POST. I can get it to around 150, if I keep incrementing from the whatever the highest it will post at in 1 or 2 Mhz increments.

At 145, I can run 1:1 memory ratio, when I try going above 145 changing vcore, vmem and the memory ration doesn't seem to help.

vcore and vmem I've backed it down to 1.65 and 2.5, didn't seem to make a difference in trying to post above 145

CAS settings at with 2.5-3-3-7 and turn off enhance memory.

CPU temp seems to be hovering around 102 F

CPU is a 1.8A with a Alpha
Memory is XMS 3200

Any ideas?

Thanks.
 

Robzila

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Nov 26, 2000
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Hi all,

Well after burning in my Samsung 512 stick and playing around a bit, I have been slowly inching my way up with my P4b-533V and a 2.26B. As of today, I'm running at 2634 (17x155) mem set at 4:5. 3dmark is around 12,500 with a gainward Ti4600, and Sandra gives me 2984 for mem bench. This is with 1.625 CPU vcore, 2.7 mem, and 1.6 (I think) AGP. Cooling is done with an AVC sunflower. I will transferring this system to a highly modified Koolance system in about a week.

Do any of you guys know what I should expect for increases once I add the watercooling?

 

ColdBrew

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Aug 2, 2000
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Does this board have a 2nd serial port? It doesn't mention that it has a header for it, but it does say that it comes with a 9 pin connector for it. Why would they ship a 9 pin connector if it doesn't have a header for it on the MB.

Can someone please clear this up for me.

TIA

I went and download the manual and can see that it has a com2 header on the motherboard next to the PCI 6 slot. Wonder why they don't mention it in the specs. Oh well, it is looking more and more that this is the board to have. I just hate the price.
 

Krellor

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May 14, 2002
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Finally! I figured out my temp problems. I just need to add some more airflow to my case. I had a feeling it was case temp related. So I put a fan in the side of the case right on top of where the Alpha sits. Now I'm maxxing out at 53 C in Prime95. That still a bit warmer than you guys had stated, but it's a heck of lot better than when I was maxxing at 60! :Q

Maybe I'll keep tweaking the airflow a bit.
 

Ardy

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Jun 20, 2002
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Originally posted by: ColdBrew
Does this board have a 2nd serial port? It doesn't mention that it has a header for it, but it does say that it comes with a 9 pin connector for it. Why would they ship a 9 pin connector if it doesn't have a header for it on the MB.

Can someone please clear this up for me.

TIA

I went and download the manual and can see that it has a com2 header on the motherboard next to the PCI 6 slot. Wonder why they don't mention it in the specs. Oh well, it is looking more and more that this is the board to have. I just hate the price.

Mine came with 3 slot cards 1) an additional serial port
2) a joystick port and 2 USB 2.0 ports
3) an spdif connector

I have mine stable at 147FSB at 4-5 mem ratio .Ran Prime overnight.V-core is 1.75
memv is 2.85 Agp at 1.5 Memory timings at 2-2-2-5 Sandra mem bandwith scores 2859-2863 Wished it had 3-4 Mem ratio,maybe they'll add it wit a bios update other than that I think I'm limited by what my 1.6 is capable of.
 

ALBPM

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Jan 3, 2000
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After a week of playing with my P4B533-V I've managed to get my P4-2.26 up to 156MHz FSB. I switched from the P4B533 (845E) version because I have 2 X 256 of Samsung PC2700 and I could only get the 845E board up to 154MHz FSB. So, the memory was only running at DDR308 due to only having the 1:1 ratio above 133MHz on the P4B533(845E).

The one feature that I really like on this board is the (overvolt jumper) with that enabled you have 1.5 - 1.8v settings in the BIOS.

I've disabled the onboard LAN, audio and graphics in the BIOS and am using PCI/AGP cards. Too bad you have to pay for those features


I'm air cooling with an ALPHA PAL8942T and a 50cfm Sunon 80mm fan. I've been running stable at 1.7v,156 FSB. I've tried 1.75v at 158MHz FSB but the processor overheat alarm goes off after a bit and can't play games or benchmark at the higher settings.

Memory at 156 FSB

WCPUID at 156

My Processor Temps range from 35-49C rest/stress with the case Temp at 23-24C and the strange thing is the Processor temps run about 3 deg higher on the P4B533-V than on the P4B533 (845E).

So, I'm looking for a better air cooling setup than the PAL8942T. Don't know if I can improve on that much more but I would like to stick with air cooling to keep things simple.

So far I really like the P4B533-V it's expensive but has a few more options like the "Overvolt" jumper that the previous ASUS boards didn't have.
 

Ardy

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Jun 20, 2002
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Oh I do have mine up for sale here for $150. I want to play with a Rambus board now
 

Krellor

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I am running my P4B533-V at 163 FSB right now at 1.65V. So far it's stable, I've been running Prime95 for about 12 hours now. I'm running the memory at 2.7V and the AGP card at default.

Sandra scores at little bit over 3100 at 2.5/3/3/6. My CPU Temp is about 2 degrees over anything else I've seen. I max out at 54C, but I'm almost positive it's a case temp problem. I just need to tweak my airflow a bit.

I've had it up to 166 FSB, but Prime 95 fails after about 30 minutes.
 

wilki24

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Feb 27, 2001
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I had a problem with my first p4b533-v not holding the bios settings when the a/c power was cut off, so I ordered a new one and RMA'd the first one.

I had a heat problem with the first one, never seeing a temperature below 45, and usually idleing around 52C or so. I lapped the heatsink, readjusted it, reapplied arctic silver, etc. Even with both sides off, and a full sized all metal industrial fan blowing right into it, it wouldn't drop below 45C, with the air temp being 25C.

So I get the new board today, simply swap one for the other, and now I idle at 38-39C, and it's showing 49C with cpu burn running (gives me a hotter temp than prime95). I could easily hit 65C before under this load, but now I haven't even seen anything over 56C, even with the case fans off and the cpu slowed down.

Either I got really lucky putting the heatsink on, or there are differences between boards of even the same model.
 

TomK

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Jan 23, 2001
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None of the linux or *BSD distro's support this chipset in terms of the I/O yet, RH 7.3 gets 3Mbs at best on the IDE interfaces.

I checked with some of the kernel dev guys (Alan Cox), and he said no support yet for the 845G chipset in any kernels, and that a problem also existed with the bios on some of the motherboards running this chipset.

I purchased 6 of these to use as linux servers, and found out after the fact, argh....so now I wait for a kernel patch (working on one), or I change my choice of p4 boards.

Anyone else having problems with the p4b533-vm under linux?

Thread 1

And another

Etc, hit google.com for 845g linux and see the problems.

Tom
 
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