*** Official ASUS P4C800/Deluxe (875P) Thread ***

[DAVIDS]

The USB issue is a little more complex than has often been portrayed. Disabling Legacy Support in the BIOS could solve any USB problems. But Intel has this caveat on its website:

"For your USB keyboard or mouse to work with MS-DOS-based utilities and non-Windows* modes, your computer must have USB Legacy Support enabled in the BIOS. USB Legacy Support allows the BIOS to interact with a USB keyboard, and in limited cases, a USB mouse. If USB Legacy Support is disabled in the BIOS, you will not be able to use your USB mouse or keyboard in any of the following situations:
Running your computer in Safe mode.
Using a Windows Startup menu.
Starting your computer in MS-DOS mode (instead of opening a MS-DOS session from Windows).
Starting your computer from a floppy disk or leaving a floppy disk in the drive when you turn on or restart your computer.
Windows "blue screen" errors that ask you to "Press any key to continue".
Responding to ScanDisk and other messages during the start-up sequence.
Editing or upgrading the BIOS.
Entering a BIOS password. "

The Asus BIOS gives you the option of setting Legacy Support to Auto, an option I think few people have tried.

If you have USB 2.0 devices that are not working properly, the first thing you should do is check the Device Manager. There should be a "USB2 Enhanced Host Controller" under Universal Serial Bus Controllers. If it's not there, then you may have problems. Apparently Service Pack-1 does not always correctly identify the USB controller on the 875P chipset. There are various ways to fix the problem. One solution is to delete all the USB host controllers in the Device Manager and reboot. The auto-detect function will kick in and hopefully you will see the USB2 controller in the Device Manager. Also, in the BIOS, the USB 2.0 Controller should be enabled and the Controller Mode set to HiSpeed.

 

[Xeon]

I will be down for awhile folks so I'm sorry if you reply or post questions to me and I don't respond. I'm rebuilding my server and will be down for the next 24 hours or so.

So take care and I'll talk to you all when I'm back online!

See ya

 

[Xeon]

Originally posted by: DAVIDS
The USB issue is a little more complex than has often been portrayed. Disabling Legacy Support in the BIOS could solve any USB problems. But Intel has this caveat on its website:

"For your USB keyboard or mouse to work with MS-DOS-based utilities and non-Windows* modes, your computer must have USB Legacy Support enabled in the BIOS. USB Legacy Support allows the BIOS to interact with a USB keyboard, and in limited cases, a USB mouse. If USB Legacy Support is disabled in the BIOS, you will not be able to use your USB mouse or keyboard in any of the following situations:
Running your computer in Safe mode.
Using a Windows Startup menu.
Starting your computer in MS-DOS mode (instead of opening a MS-DOS session from Windows).
Starting your computer from a floppy disk or leaving a floppy disk in the drive when you turn on or restart your computer.
Windows "blue screen" errors that ask you to "Press any key to continue".
Responding to ScanDisk and other messages during the start-up sequence.
Editing or upgrading the BIOS.
Entering a BIOS password. "

The Asus BIOS gives you the option of setting Legacy Support to Auto, an option I think few people have tried.

If you have USB 2.0 devices that are not working properly, the first thing you should do is check the Device Manager. There should be a "USB2 Enhanced Host Controller" under Universal Serial Bus Controllers. If it's not there, then you may have problems. Apparently Service Pack-1 does not always correctly identify the USB controller on the 875P chipset. There are various ways to fix the problem. One solution is to delete all the USB host controllers in the Device Manager and reboot. The auto-detect function will kick in and hopefully you will see the USB2 controller in the Device Manager. Also, in the BIOS, the USB 2.0 Controller should be enabled and the Controller Mode set to HiSpeed.

All I can say is Wow, this is good stuff DAVIDS !

I've got a user that I've been talking to about this very issue and this will be good information to pass along to him. Heck it will even help me once I get this box of mine up and running!

Thanks for sharing it!

Talk to you all soon!

 

[sillious]

Okay expert folks, as a newbie I have a question about this board and hard drives. Please help me as I'm trying to do it setup and can't find answer anywhere.

Have 2 HDD: Maxtor 160GB ATA133 and WD200 ATA100. Trying to put Maxtor into the board's ATA133 connector and install WinXP Pro, and connect WD to the Pri IDE.

Start installinf XP, it copies all the setup files it needs from CD, then restart. At restart, it says it can't find the setup files, because it thinks those files were copied into the WD (Pri IDE), and gives the blue screen.

I disconnected WD and tried, now it can't find any drive although under Boot Devices in BIOS I can see that drive.

Is there anyway, I can still keep this hardware settings and install XP into the ATA133 drive, and keep the WD as a backup drive?

Please help me, I'm running out of patience and steps.

Thank you.

 

[DAVIDS]

Originally posted by: sillious
Okay expert folks, as a newbie I have a question about this board and hard drives. Please help me as I'm trying to do it setup and can't find answer anywhere.

Have 2 HDD: Maxtor 160GB ATA133 and WD200 ATA100. Trying to put Maxtor into the board's ATA133 connector and install WinXP Pro, and connect WD to the Pri IDE.

Start installinf XP, it copies all the setup files it needs from CD, then restart. At restart, it says it can't find the setup files, because it thinks those files were copied into the WD (Pri IDE), and gives the blue screen.

I disconnected WD and tried, now it can't find any drive although under Boot Devices in BIOS I can see that drive.

Is there anyway, I can still keep this hardware settings and install XP into the ATA133 drive, and keep the WD as a backup drive?

Please help me, I'm running out of patience and steps.

Thank you.

What settings do you have under IDE Configuration in the BIOS? Even though you're using an ATA133 drive, I believe the Enhanced Mode Support should stay on S-ATA. Also, where is the jumper set on your Maxtor? I believe it should be on "master." I've heard some Maxtor drives are shipped in the "cable select" position.

 

[sillious]

Originally posted by: DAVIDS

Originally posted by: sillious

What settings do you have under IDE Configuration in the BIOS? Even though you're using an ATA133 drive, I believe the Enhanced Mode Support should stay on S-ATA. Also, where is the jumper set on your Maxtor? I believe it should be on "master." I've heard some Maxtor drives are shipped in the "cable select" position.

It's set to SATA, and jumper on this disk set to Master.
I even tried setting to Cable Select, it detects drive.
I also tried in PATA and PATA+SATA, same thing.

 

[DAVIDS]

Originally posted by: sillious

It's set to SATA, and jumper on this disk set to Master.
I even tried setting to Cable Select, it detects drive.
I also tried in PATA and PATA+SATA, same thing.

Hmmm. Very strange. On the Boot Device Priority screen, your CD/DVD drive should be listed before the hard drive. Can't offer any other advice. I hope things work out.

 

[sillious]

Originally posted by: DAVIDS

Originally posted by: sillious

It's set to SATA, and jumper on this disk set to Master.
I even tried setting to Cable Select, it detects drive.
I also tried in PATA and PATA+SATA, same thing.

Hmmm. Very strange. On the Boot Device Priority screen, your CD/DVD drive should be listed before the hard drive. Can't offer any other advice. I hope things work out.

This is strange! I though it did not matter wether if I wanted to install OS into Pri drive or ATA133 channel. I can install OS into whichever drive I want as long as it is connected to the Pri drive.

 

[jcpiercy]

Thanks Computer as always

I have found several OCZ dealers near me , the one I'll with deal is in Toronto
where I purchased my Kingwin 436 case
Bigfoot

Im doing lots of reading thanks to all your posts and others

When im ready to finish my build , Ill come back here and perhaps get some tweaking tips and some OC help

thanks again

JP

 

[bubico]

My system boots slow
After it says "NVRAM complete" there are 5-6 secs till drives are displayed
then
a black screeen with the cursor in the upper left corner for another 10 secs

I have set the Boot setion in Bios to minimal, disabled Promise.

I have no floppy though.
I have scanned my RAM and its OK.
Otherwise the system is
runs fine.

Any clues?

 

[Xeon]

Well, I placed my order on Sunday as you all know, but I have to say, I'm utterly amazed at how fast newegg has performed!

I placed my order for most of my components listed above in this thread Sunday, Today I received conformation that the order was shipped!

Those guys at newegg ABSOLUTELY ROCK!

I should have all my stuff by Thursday or sooner!

I just had to come in here and put in a plug for newegg. Now I haven't actually seen the order yet but so far I couldn't be happier with these guys.

At any rate, talk to you all soon!

 

[laggerez]

northbridge fan mod for p4c800-E

I have this mobo on order from newegg as well as a thermaltake all alum full tower case, 480w TT psu and 512 mb of ocz matched gold ddr500, 2.4ghz p4c and a Zalman CU hsf, some serious OC in store for me soon... anyone replace the northbridge sink with a hsf ?? what is involved ? did they epoxy the oem HS on ? what would you recommend as a replacement with a fan?, cost and noise are not really considerations cooling power is however as I want to ramp up to 1000mhz+ fsb

TIA


ps I ordered from new egg Mon morning and by Mon evening they shipped it all this is why I always get my major components from them.. (getting a 120 gb maxtor from OD however for only 64.00 from the hotdeals forums (here and at FW)

 

[MahjonggMastah]

Hey guys. I've been running the 1006 Bios since May, and I've been wanting to update for a while. But my friend told me it's not a good idea to update the Bios unless there is something wrong with the computer, otherwise you just run the risk of losing everything. I have the 1007, 1008, 1010, and 1011 zip files on my computer already, so now what do I do to update?

 

[senior guy]

Originally posted by: MahjonggMastah
Hey guys. I've been running the 1006 Bios since May, and I've been wanting to update for a while. But my friend told me it's not a good idea to update the Bios unless there is something wrong with the computer, otherwise you just run the risk of losing everything. I have the 1007, 1008, 1010, and 1011 zip files on my computer already, so now what do I do to update?

I always update to the latest released BIOS as it often delivers better performance and/or features (beta versions are obviously risky). Here is the procedure.

 

[shleepy]

It looks like I'm returning my WinBond CH-5 RAM cuz it doesn't perform well at all with the P4C800 Deluxe... Anyone have any suggestions/links for 1GB of PC3500 RAM for about $240 or less (or 512MB for about $120 or less) that perform well with P4C800 Deluxe? Of course, any RAM that's even faster than PC3500 is good, too, as long as it's about $240 or less.

I know GeIL has some pretty cheap models of PC3500+. If some of those perform well with this mobo and cost under about $240, plz tell me which ones. Links are greatly appreciated! Thanks a lot!

NOTE: I want CAS 2.0 RAM only, NOT CAS 2.5+.

 

[laggerez]

Originally posted by: DAVIDS

Originally posted by: laggerez
will I need adapters for using sata drives If I decide to install some ? (considering a raid 0 of wd 36 gb raptors)

The P4C800-E Deluxe has four onboard SATA connectors (two for Intel controller and two for Promise controller). The board also comes with two SATA cables. There are numerous ways of setting up a RAID array on this mobo. You can use the Intel SATA connectors, the Promise SATA connectors, the Promise IDE RAID connector, or you can hook up a RAID card to one the PCI slots.

umm I believe the promise raid controller is gone now as the board I orderd has the ich5r southbridge chip

 

[MahjonggMastah]

Thanks Senior Guy, but the afudos.exe doesn't want to work. I created a bootable DOS floppy disk, then copied afudos.exe to it, then tried to run it. A command prompt screen comes up for about half a second, then disappears. This happens every time I try. Am I doing something wrong? Also, should I be updated to the 1007 bios, or should I go to 1011?

 

[MrTransistorm]

Hello.

Did you copy the ROM file to the floppy?

At the DOS prompt, you should type afudos /iFILENAME.ROM where filename is whatever bios file you have on the floppy.

Originally posted by: MahjonggMastah
Thanks Senior Guy, but the afudos.exe doesn't want to work. I created a bootable DOS floppy disk, then copied afudos.exe to it, then tried to run it. A command prompt screen comes up for about half a second, then disappears. This happens every time I try. Am I doing something wrong? Also, should I be updated to the 1007 bios, or should I go to 1011?

 

[senior guy]

Originally posted by: MahjonggMastah
Thanks Senior Guy, but the afudos.exe doesn't want to work. I created a bootable DOS floppy disk, then copied afudos.exe to it, then tried to run it. A command prompt screen comes up for about half a second, then disappears. This happens every time I try. Am I doing something wrong? Also, should I be updated to the 1007 bios, or should I go to 1011?

You can follow MrTransistorm's advice (which should work) or easier yet, just use EZflash (see below) which is much more user-friendly... And of course, update directly to v1011 (there is no need/purpose in flashing interim versions).

EZ Flash is built into the BIOS firmware, permitting easy BIOS access and update by simply pressing <ALT>+<F2> right after POST (Power-On Self Test). Users may update BIOS even before loading operation systems, meaning no boot diskettes and DOS-based flash utilities are required with this advanced ASUS design.

So all you need to do is download the latest BIOS file name from the ASUS website to a floppy disk, reboot your computer, startup EZ Flash by pressing [ALT] + [F2] right after POST and follow directions. When (and only when) the process is complete, you reboot the system (by pressing any key) with your new BIOS. It's very straight-forward!

:beer: cheers!

 

[DAVIDS]

Originally posted by: laggerez umm I believe the promise raid controller is gone now as the board I orderd has the ich5r southbridge chip

I'm not sure I understand your comment. If you ordered a P4C800-E, it has both a Promise and ICH5R RAID controller.

 

[DAVIDS]

Originally posted by: bubico
My system boots slow
After it says "NVRAM complete" there are 5-6 secs till drives are displayed
then
a black screeen with the cursor in the upper left corner for another 10 secs

I have set the Boot setion in Bios to minimal, disabled Promise.

I have no floppy though.
I have scanned my RAM and its OK.
Otherwise the system is
runs fine.

Any clues?

Have you had this problem since the beginning? Second, are you overclocking? If you are, you may want to back off a little. Relax your memory timings or lower the FSB.

 

[MrTransistorm]

Originally posted by: senior guy

You can follow MrTransistorm's advice (which should work) or easier yet, just use EZflash (see below) which is much more user-friendly... And of course, update directly to v1011 (there is no need/purpose in flashing interim versions).


:beer: cheers!

One more thing to note: In order to use EZflash the ROM file has to be renamed on the floppy to the name specific for the motherboard. For example the P4C800-E Deluxe has to be P4C800ED.ROM. I'm sure other motherboards will differ so check the manual. It's all there :beer:

 

[shleepy]

Anyone try using WinBond PC3500 BH-5 RAM (or RAM with BH-5 chips)? It looks like I'm getting some, after returning my CH-5 RAM, which works badly with my P4C800 Deluxe. I wanna know if it's a good decision to trade it in for the BH-5 RAM.

 

[senior guy]

Originally posted by: MrTransistorm
One more thing to note: In order to use EZflash the ROM file has to be renamed on the floppy to the name specific for the motherboard. For example the P4C800-E Deluxe has to be P4C800ED.ROM. I'm sure other motherboards will differ so check the manual. It's all there :beer:

Excellent point... thanks for catching that Dave!

 

[Shagga]

This might be me but I'm finding the Manual a little confusing to be honest and would appreciate some guidance if possible.

I have 3 SATA hard Drives. 2 36GB WD Raptors which will form the RAID 0 setup and 1 200GB Maxtor Plus9 which is also SATA but will be a storage drive.

There are 4 No. SATA connectors on my motherboard. 2 are referenced as SATA_RAID1 and SATA_RAID2 and the other 2 are SATA1 and SATA2. Logic would dictate that the Raptors go on the SATA_RAID connectors and this is what I have done. However, it appears that for this RAID 0 setup it is function of the on-board Promise controller. The RAID support for the SATA1 and SATA2 connections is through the ICH5R chipset. Now I understand this and understand how to set this up in the BIOS (which is V1011).

What I do not understand is that the ?Manual? suggests if I?m reading it correctly that to setup a RAID 0 configuration using SATA drives I should use the ICH5R chipset which is okay, but that means that my SATA Raptors connects to the SATA1 and SATA2 ports on the motherboard and not the SATA_RAID1 and SATA_RAID2 ports as logic would tell ya, or not as the case may be.

So, I guess what I?m asking is this. In the first instance am I better running RAID 0 using the onboard Promise controller or indeed the support given by the ICH5R chipset. And on the basis I am running RAID 0 on SATA does it really matter that it isn't running on ICH5R??

On another note, do I have to install IAA at the time of installing the OS using the F6 method or is there another way. When I try to install IAA as you normally do within WinXP I get an error say "chipset not supported" to words top that effect.

What a tangled wed we weave.

Thanks ppl