Originally posted by: gogoman
DAVIDS,
What do you use to test for stability? At first, I try using prime95 v2.37 but it always ends with an error after 16K passes( even when I don't overclock). Now, I have only Sandra "Burn-in Wizard" and 3Dmark2001SE loop mode to test for stability.
Originally posted by: mjcumming
New P4C800-E Deluxe owner
I have been using 3dmark03 to test stablility.
Thanks, Mike
Originally posted by: Rapamatic
I have put together the following system, and expect delivery of it today. I would appreciate any comments/suggestions on what I've bought and any tips or tricks to getting it to all work together.
Also, I have never overclocked before, but with all the good things I've heard about this board and th 2.4C chip, I've decided to give it a try. Are there any good beginners guides to reference?
Thanks!
Specs:
Asus P4C800-E
P4 2.4C
Thermalright SP-94 + 92mm Tornado + fanbus
Corsair 1GB TWINX 1024-4000PRO
2X Maxtor MaXLine Plus II 250GB SATA (planning RAID 0)
Matrox P750
Pioneer A06
LiteOn 52X CDRW
Antec TruePower 480 (thinking of upgrading to PCP&C)
I'm putting all this in an Antec PlusView 1000 case, loaded with Antec UV-LED fans.
Later I'll add some other SATA HDD for backup (or put the Maxtor as backup and use the new Hitachi drives). I plan on using built in sound, at least for now.
Originally posted by: DAVIDS
Originally posted by: gogoman
DAVIDS,
What do you use to test for stability? At first, I try using prime95 v2.37 but it always ends with an error after 16K passes( even when I don't overclock). Now, I have only Sandra "Burn-in Wizard" and 3Dmark2001SE loop mode to test for stability.
Have you tried Memtest86? It's a good diagnostic tool for your RAM. link
I'm using an ATI Radeon 9700 Pro and was occasionally having problems with system freezes. At first, I thought it was a USB problem. But I installed Omega drivers in place of the regular ATI Catalyst versions, and the problems went away. The Omegas are third party drivers that are supposedly more stable than the ATI's. link Of course, if you're not having problems with your video card, then there's probably no need to install the Omegas. It turned out to be one of the best decisions I've made.
You should run two instances of Prime95 (most current version) in order to test HT cpu. I have run 2 instances of Prime and 1 instance of Seti plus 1 instance of Prime for over 12 hours with no errors. Using only 1 instance with an HT cpu will only test 50% cpu usage, not 100%.Originally posted by: gogoman
"3dmark2003 with matched pair 512mb ocz gold pc 500 and ati 9700 pro = 5271... stable on prime95 ... cpuz output below shows the 2.4c ghz OC to 3.22ghz at relaxed timings "
laggerez,
What version prime95 are you using? Do you get some error after 16K passes?
Start the 2nd one from the command line like example (browse to location of Prime95 folder) with the -a2 switch:Originally posted by: chanfo
How do you run 2 version of prime95 at the sametime? It won't let me open it twice.
Yes, 60C is way too high. Even under load, my CPU rarely goes above 32C. I'm using a Zalman CNPS-7000AlCu. Your heat sink may not be making good contact with your CPU. When you remove the HSF, you'll be able to tell, just by looking at the CPU and the patterns left on the thermal paste.Originally posted by: MikEHunT2
I can see after reading this page alone i may need me a nice Zalman h/s/f. My temp as i write this is 43'c, and under load goes upto 60'c.
ALthough i must say, it is stable at that after my extensive Prime95 and other tests.
Time for me to place another cooler order!
You should run two instances of Prime95 (most current version) in order to test HT cpu. I have run 2 instances of Prime and 1 instance of Seti plus 1 instance of Prime for over 12 hours with no errors. Using only 1 instance with an HT cpu will only test 50% cpu usage, not 100%.
There is one program that will test all the hardware for stability that I know about but the pro version is $295. I do personally use MemTest86 prior to installing the OS. Using all 11 tests will give a pretty good warm fuzzy of stability. I will normally install about 5mhz fsb under a no error maximum using MemTest86.Does anyone know of any DOS benchmarking programs or anything I can run in "DOS mode" from a floppy or CDROM to check stability? I'm not wasting my time setting up XP Pro if this thing is unstable, so I'd like to test it now.
Using the AI overclock relaxes the mem timings and other timings. Don't use it. Use manual and find your own sweetspots.If you set overclock to 30%, what ratio & settings is the memory running? Does the 30% overclock setting set the memory ratio to slower than 1:1?
Auto could set the ratio to any of these depending on the fsb. Again, find your own sweetspot. Note that bus speed will overcompensate for a mem ratio timing. 1:1 is not always the fastest setting if the fsb has to be lowered to much. (ex: my 2.8 running 1:1 ddr494 2.5-3-3-7 is slower than my 2.6 running 5:4 ddr420 2-2-2-5)When you set that DDR Frequency area to "Auto" what does that do? Is that 1:1 or 3:2, or 5:4?
Can't help you here. I have only run the 2.85vdimm and that is really only about 2.80v actual.Looks like I'm going to have to do the Vdimm mod on this mobo if takes 2.85v just to boot, the Geil is spec'd to 2.95v. Who has done the memory voltage modification, and can you post the exact directions please?
disabledShould "Spread spectrum" be disabled or enabled?
4 is faster if you can run it. I do"DRAM Burst length"; 4 or 8?
If you can get 8T, go for it. Lower is faster but depends on having some really good memory."DRAM Idle Timer"; infinite, 0T, 8T, 16T, 64T, or Auto?
This is how often the memory is cleared. I use 64uSec with 1Gb ram."DRAM Refresh mode"; 15.6uSec, 7.8uSec, 64uSec, or 64T?
The is for older devices. Has nothing to do with the ICH5R that you are thinking about. You can leave it enabled, no matter. Some say disabled shows performance gain. I doubt that personally."ICH Delayed transaction"; enabled or disabled? (Why does it say nothing about "ICH5R?)
Microsoft recommends setting this to NO. I always install Win2K and XP with it set to NO.For this specific mobo (P4C800-E Deluxe) is it best to have PnP OS set to Yes or No? Does it do a better job at assigning IRQ's than XP Pro?
Again, no bigger. Either, won't matter under XP. NO, is fine. Leave it.I have "allocate IRQ to PCI VGA" set to "NO" since I'm using an AGP video card. I assume that's correct. ?
The primary usb ports are the one's closest to the rj45. Legacy USB is for DOS based. Loading USB2.0 in XP will take care of your needs.If you enable only 2 USB ports, WHICH are they!? Which "numbers" are the rear USB ports? Also, I have one USB 2.0 device, and one USB 1.1 device. If I use the 1.1 device, MUST I enable "Legacy USB" in the BIOS? If I disable Legacy USB will the 1.1 device still work? I heard that enabling Legacy USB can cause some problem with this mobo with o'clocking. If USB 2.0 is backward compatible (and I think it is) then the 1.1 device should work if Legacy USB is disabled.
11.67 is a little low. 11.87 would be closer to norm. This is due to the drain from the length of power connector wiring and other factors. It is normally only 12v coming out of the PS. You can adjust the pots but I would not bother. As long as you don't have any major fluxuations on the 3.3, 5.0 or 12.0 lines this will not cause you any trouble.My 12v is running only 11.67v in the BIOS. Is that cause for alarm? I find that rather annoying since this PS was top rated by Anandtech and Tom's for the "400 watt & under" units. It's the Fortron/Source FSP400-60PFN and in all tests its 12v was running @12.0v! Yet, it's 11.67 on this mobo.
contol/alt/delete - performance tab - you should see 2 cpu's - if not you do not have HT enabled and you should see 100% under the performance tab or something is definately wrong with your settings.Originally posted by: MikEHunT2
You should run two instances of Prime95 (most current version) in order to test HT cpu. I have run 2 instances of Prime and 1 instance of Seti plus 1 instance of Prime for over 12 hours with no errors. Using only 1 instance with an HT cpu will only test 50% cpu usage, not 100%.
I tried this, and even with 2 instances of Prime95 running, my cpu usage was still low, as it just used the pagefile like mad?
It never reached 100% cpu usage?
I am now running this again, and as i type this, my cpu usage is only a max of 11 %, whereas my pagefile stays constant at 1.91 Gb.
The physical ram is also maxed out too, so i do not see where the 100% cpu usage comes into it?
Anyway, that is a minor problem as it is very trivial, LOL.
contol/alt/delete - performance tab - you should see 2 cpu's - if not you do not have HT enabled and you should see 100% under the performance tab or something is definately wrong with your settings.[/quote]Originally posted by: jhites