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lionheart3

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i have a p4c800 deluxe motherboard and am considering purchasing a western digital raptor sata drive but had heard this board has problems with sata, are the problems only with sata raid or also just a single sata hard drive, i dont care about raid. i have had the board for quite awhile and its been working great for me but ive never used serial ata so far. currently i have 3 scsi hard drives, (1 is 15k rpm and 2 are 10k rpm) but the raptors are supposed to be good also and id like to quiet the pc down more
 

computer

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I've never seen any problems regarding SATA drives or the Raptor. That's what I had on mine and I had trouble with it (in single non RAID mode). It worked fine on the Promise and ICH5R controllers. (But I still had the WMD program errors with something connected to the Promise controller and with it enabled).

You know Michael, WMD may be better than Memtest, I guess the jury will be out on that for awhile. It could be really flawed, or, it could really be pointing out the problems we have and better than Memtest.
 

computer

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Posted by MoeStooge....
What settings and/or configuration do I need to run the WMD test you requested? I ran it with my current setup and it ran through one pass with no problems. Let me know and I'll set it up the way you need me to.

Posted by Computer (me)....
MoeStooge, just hook up ANY TYPE of HD, IDE or SATA in ANY TYPE of configuration to EITHER the IDE or SATA connectors on the Promise controller, and of course enable the controller in the BIOS. Then boot off the WMD floppy.
MoeStooge are you still around?
 

MoeStooge

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I'm still here. I'll try to do it this weekend.

I just need to pull one of the IDE drives out of my old system first.
 

willbemcse

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Which CPU and Mem are best with board. 2.4 C and Kingston HyperX 400 or Corsair ??. Any problems with these combinations anyone has the same specs, any trouble OCing them
 

Xeon

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Originally posted by: willbemcse
Which CPU and Mem are best with board. 2.4 C and Kingston HyperX 400 or Corsair ??. Any problems with these combinations anyone has the same specs, any trouble OCing them

Well, the 2.4C is definately the most bang for the buck and is the most clockable of the current processors. As for RAM, any of those will work just fine. With RAM, it's like flipping a coin, if you get a good set, it will work great. I have OCZ PC-4000 and it screams with the 2.4C, but I have a hand picked set that is actually rated to PC-4200 speeds, so it's really not the norm. You can see all the info for this rig in the link in my signature.

Not sure if this helps but it's the only advice I can offer.
 

Xeon

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Originally posted by: Amused
That's funny. I have had two retail versions of the P4C800-E from Newegg and ZipZoomFly and neither had round cables. Just 4x SATA, red in color and flat IDE: 2x 80 wire, 1x 40 wire and 1x floppy all black in color.

Newegg has pics of what's in the box here:


Amused, would you mind editing this post so that the link you're providing here doesn't spread the website page? It appears your entering the link in the wrong place when clicking on the http button.

Thanks!
 

Xeon

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See ya!
 

jcpiercy

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computer

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willbemcse, yes, like Michael said. Also, if you don't luck out and get a GOOD 2.4C and end up with one that won't O'clock much, you're better off with low latency memory. In order to overclock the 2.4C to it's fullest potential and get the most out of your memory @ 1:1, you need at least PC3700 and OCZ, and Mushkin Level II Black Hi-perf are the best. For PC4000 you want OCZ gold or Geil Ultra Platinum, or the new Mushkin PC4000 Level II Black Hi-perf. You don't know these things until you get the CPU and find out if it's any good. Mine sucked, so I would have been MUCH better off with PC3700 OCZ or PC3500 Mushkin. Then NEWEST Corsair hi-end stuff is good, I forget what it's called.
 

jose

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Hi everyone,

Is there a problem w/ the p4c800e running 2gigs of memory ??
My friend has a system that is frying his memory when he uses all 4 dimms.

specs: 3.0c not oc'd, 4 x 512 HyperX 3200

Allied 400w ps.

This happens after running 5 days running calculations.

Regards,
Jose
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Xeon


Amused, would you mind editing this post so that the link you're providing here doesn't spread the website page? It appears your entering the link in the wrong place when clicking on the http button.

Thanks!

It didn't hose my IE

But there ya go. It be fixed.
 

computer

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I just got in my replacement mobo from Asus. I haven't tried the WMD program on it yet, I'll check that out tonight although I'm sure it's still going to have the WMD error issue. Boy did I get a good girl that was working with me. You may recall, FedEx lost the package and it turned up 4 days late. So the girl I was emailing sent the replacement mobo out to me 2nd Day Air so I'd get it before Xmas! Better yet, it's even a Rev. 2 and they told me they could not send a Rev.2 for an RMA on a Rev. 1.02! I have to say, you don't results like that very often and credit where credit is due; I was dealing with a "jewel" of girl as I told her.

Now can any of you with a Rev. 1xx tell me if you have two serial ports? I'm almost positive my first one (800-E Deluxe) had TWO serial ports. This Rev. 2 has one serial port and in its place what looks to be an SPDIF jack. If that's the case and Rev. 1xx DOES have two serial ports, then when know of at least one difference in the board revisions.

 

OldBaldy

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Originally posted by: jose
Hi everyone,

Is there a problem w/ the p4c800e running 2gigs of memory ??
My friend has a system that is frying his memory when he uses all 4 dimms.

specs: 3.0c not oc'd, 4 x 512 HyperX 3200

Allied 400w ps.

This happens after running 5 days running calculations.

Regards,
Jose

I also have 3.0c, with 4 x 512 Geil 3200. No problems with memory after running Prime95 for a few hours (not 5 days) and running the system at 5% OC (AI) for a week now. Have also run WMD and Memtest86 several times as well. Appears to be stable.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: computer


Now can any of you with a Rev. 1xx tell me if you have two serial ports? I'm almost positive my first one (800-E Deluxe) had TWO serial ports. This Rev. 2 has one serial port and in its place what looks to be an SPDIF jack. If that's the case and Rev. 1xx DOES have two serial ports, then when know of at least one difference in the board revisions.

2.0 here... One serial port on the back panel, and a plug on the board (COM2, right next to the wireless slot at the bottom of the board) for another optional serial port bracket that fits in a slot in the back of the case. (my manual says serial port bracket (COM2) sold seperately)
 

jose

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The calculations are for some oil company and it takes 5 days to complete.

The strange thing is that it will run w/ no problems w/ 2 sticks but it did fry the memory after running 5 days w/ 4 sticks.

The memory was tested seperately prior to using all four banks. All the settings are default w/ no extra voltage applied to either
processor or memory.

The users said the memory sticks were very hot after they started getting errors. I don't think it could be a power supply or heat problem because the system would run fine w/ only 2 banks.

Any help is appreciated.

Regards,
Jose
 

computer

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OldBaldy do you have an 800-E Deluxe?

Amused, thanks but I needed someone with Rev. 1.xx to check........ Now can any of you with a Rev. 1xx tell me if you have two serial ports?

 

computer

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Well, the new mobo I received is STILL plagued by the same BS as the one I RMA'd. I didn't think the WMD program errors would be gone, but it would have been "nice", and I at least expected other things. For one, those FET's marked "9915" that I mentioned were about to melt, they are still that hot, and they've even been REPLACED with different FET's! I can't O'clock anymore which pretty much validates a CPU that sucks, that's not the mobo's fault. I still get Memtest errors when BOTH sticks are used in ANY COMBINATION at 359.6mb, and ALWAYS in the same "channel" in MemTest which is "1" I guess since that is what is underneath "channel". On the plus side, they seemed to have at least fixed the CPU voltage fluctuations at at 1.6v ONLY. On this mobo, when set to 1.6v it STAYS at 1.6-1.62v instead of dipping way down to 1.58v and lower. However it still has the same problem when setting Vcore to 1.625v; it drops WAY down to 1.525v. This obviously is not a problem with this mobo since I still get the same results at a STABLE 1.6v Vcore as I did with an UNstable 1.6v Vcore on the other mobo.

Stick labeled #1:
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With stick 1 on **LEFT BANK**: black slot, no errors. Blue slot, no errors.

With stick 1 on **RIGHT BANK**: Error @231.6 in blue AND IN black slot.
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Stick 2:
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With stick 2 on **LEFT BANK**: Blue no errors. Black no errors.

With stick 2 on **RIGHT BANK**: Blue no errors. Black no errors.
====================

BOTH STICKS used:
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Stick 1 in BLACK left, stick 2 in BLACK right: 359.6mb*
Stick 1 in BLUE left, stick 2 in BLUE right: 359.6mb*

Stick 2 in BLACK left, stick 1 in BLACK right: 359.6mb*
Stick 2 in BLUE left, stick 1 in BLUE right: 359.6mb*
*- Area in Memtest where it shows the location

"Left" = the bank closest to CPU
"Right" = the bank closest to ATX power connector

Could be I have a flaky stick of memory (stick I labeled #1), but that would not explain the same errors when BOTH sticks are used regardless of placement in the SAME BANK, nor does it explain the WMD errors with the Promise controller enabled and something connected. BTW, I'll state again for the record that I still get the same WMD errors when EITHER of single sticks are used in ANY slot, any when ANY TYPE MEMORY is used. I think I'm going to try and RMA my memory to Geil anyway and see what happens. That definitely won't help the WMD errors, but it may help the errors at 359.6mb.

Michael, or ANYONE else with an E-Deluxe, have you tried all FOUR banks filled with memory and then ran the WMD program? I wish someone else on this thread with an E-Deluxe would take the 30 seconds it takes to run the WMD program and let us verify it is with ALL of the "E" version boards. I'm interested to know if having all four banks populated changes WMD error results (again with the Promise controller enabled and anything connected).
 

Amused

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On the plus side, they seemed to have at least fixed the CPU voltage fluctuations at at 1.6v ONLY. On this mobo, when set to 1.6v it STAYS at 1.6-1.62v instead of dipping way down to 1.58v and lower. However it still has the same problem when setting Vcore to 1.625v; it drops WAY down to 1.525v. This obviously is not a problem with this mobo since I still get the same results at a STABLE 1.6v Vcore as I did with an UNstable 1.6v Vcore on the other mobo.

You're kidding.

My board has wild fluctuations at the 1.6 setting. It idles at 1.64v and dips to 1.55v at full load.

That 1.64v idle scares me, and is keeping me from using the setting to insure that the voltage never dips below 1.55v.

Bummer about your memory errors. Have you tried upping the DDR voltage?

Sorry I have only 2 sticks of RAM. I'd buy two more sticks, but it's Xmas and I'm close to tapped on the funds right now.
 

drewdogg

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Ok this is my setup.

1.pentium 4 3.0c 800fsb
2.asus p4c800-e deluxe motherboard
3. corsiar twinx1024-3200llpt
4. pny ti4600 geforce 4


what are the best bios settings for this configuration also is thier a website that will explain each and every bios option for this motherboard and whats the best ones to pick for it thanx...
 

oldsoldier

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I'll be interested as well, building similar system:

P4C800-E Deluxe
P4 3.0
Corsair Twinx XMS3200 Pro
Radion 9600XT

What monitor are you using? I am shopping LCD's ATT.
 

Xeon

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Originally posted by: drewdogg
Ok this is my setup.

1.pentium 4 3.0c 800fsb
2.asus p4c800-e deluxe motherboard
3. corsiar twinx1024-3200llpt
4. pny ti4600 geforce 4


what are the best bios settings for this configuration also is thier a website that will explain each and every bios option for this motherboard and whats the best ones to pick for it thanx...

Well I hate to break this to you but there is no such thing as the best BIOS settings. Each stick of RAM, cpu and motherboard behave differently and you will just have to get in there and find your machines sweet spot. Each machines connected hardware is also different so not all BIOS settings will work for everyone.

Start by upping your machines FSB until it max's out then knock it down until you are able to boot into windows without issues (do this with your memory at relaxed timings). Then run MemTest-86, Prime95 and UT2003 Bench to make sure that FSB is rock solid. Once you nail down the FSB, then start tightening your Memory timings to find their sweet spot.

Hope this helps,
 

craziecomrade

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I'm trying to make my computer work, but when I turn it on display doesn't work. I'm using a ATI AIW 9800 PRO on my P4C800, I've tried the card on other systems, so there's nothing wrong with the card.
 
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