*** Official ASUS P4C800/Deluxe (875P) Thread ***

[Bad Dude]

Originally posted by: Willian
I was wondering if anyone can help me, been getting random reboots with this error Bad_Pool_Caller **STOP 0x000000C2 (0x00000007, 0x00000CD4, 0x0000003F, 0x8623F008). I changed everything from my memory to my hard drives and i just took out my Radeon 9800Pro and put in my GeForce4 TI4400 and the crashes went away. By crashes I mean random reboots. Should I up the voltage on something, Video card? Are there any issues with this board and Radepn 9800Pro at all? My system is back to normal but i want to install my 9800Pro, hehe. Any ideas anyone. TY for your time My Bios version is 1011

I got this board and it ran fine with 9800 PRO. Maybe the PSU cannot handle the juice needed from the 9800PRO.

 

[Abydos]

Here is my setup:

P4 2.8c
Asus P4C800 Deluxe
2x512MB Mushkin PC3200 2-2-2 Special
Gainward Ti4600 AGP 4x
Soundblaster Audigy Platinum 5.1
Pioneer 16x DVD
Plextor 40/12/40 burner
2 Maxtor IDE D740X-6L 80GB 7200RPM drives in RAID 0
Enermax Whisper EG465P-VE Power Supply
Will be installing WindowXP Pro

Hope that helps figure this out, I'd hate to think I got a bad mobo.

 

[BroadbandGamer]

Anyone having a problem running a 9700 Pro on this board? I bought my 9700 Pro when it was first released.

 

[Willian]

Originally posted by: BroadbandGamer
Anyone having a problem running a 9700 Pro on this board? I bought my 9700 Pro when it was first released.

In your motherboard manual on page 2-17 it says "If installing the ATI 9500 or 9700 Pro series VGA cards, Use only the card version PN xxx-xxxxx-30 or later, For optimum performance and overclocking stability" .

Sorry I appologize this is for the P4C800-E Deluxe, Im not sure about the P4PE.

 

[Willian]

Originally posted by: Bad_Dude

Originally posted by: Willian
I was wondering if anyone can help me, been getting random reboots with this error Bad_Pool_Caller **STOP 0x000000C2 (0x00000007, 0x00000CD4, 0x0000003F, 0x8623F008). I changed everything from my memory to my hard drives and i just took out my Radeon 9800Pro and put in my GeForce4 TI4400 and the crashes went away. By crashes I mean random reboots. Should I up the voltage on something, Video card? Are there any issues with this board and Radepn 9800Pro at all? My system is back to normal but i want to install my 9800Pro, hehe. Any ideas anyone. TY for your time My Bios version is 1011

I got this board and it ran fine with 9800 PRO. Maybe the PSU cannot handle the juice needed from the 9800PRO.

Yea I replaced my PSU with an Enermax 460Watt and all is good now.

 

[Abydos]

I had a thought about what might be causing my problem, but I'm not sure if it makes sense. I am using a power supply that is described as Intel ATX+12V Ver 1.3 Power Supply, which came out quite a while before Intel was hitting 2.8Ghz with an 800Mhz front side bus (around just before the time the AthlonXP just hit it's +2100 rating with 266FSB). Additionally, when I turn power on, I get the audible message System fail CPU test. I tinkered around and even took the fan off my cpu (with the pc off of course ). Anyways, I was surprised that the CPU was not generating any heat at all. I didn't leave it on for more than 45 seconds without the fan, but I figure I would be able to feel a temperature change in that short of a time period. So I did a little brainstorming and figure that maybe it isn't getting enough power? I don't have a spare power supply laying around to test this out, but I get the feeling that my CPU/Motherboard may not be getting enough current from the 12V connector. This may be causing the audible error, and may also explain why WindowsXP was having trouble with installing files off the CD, if the power going to it was out of whack. Anyways, should I go buy a new (more up-to-date) pwr supply?

 

[computer]

Damn, this website's server needs some serious help. Down every day.

Abydos if it was working before and not now, then it doesn't sound like any compatibility problem, sounds like something just "went bad", so start disconnecting things one by one and see what happens. I'm trying to setup an IS7 for a customer and I (as usual) forgot to hook up the AUX 12v square P4 power connector to the mobo....and it booted up and ran fine anyway! Now how is that possible????? If I had to guess I'd say the PS was supplying enough power without it?? So, I guess it's possible in your case the CPU isn't getting enough from the AUX 12v. But I don't know why it would have run OK previously.

 

[Kawy]

I've been running my system fro a couple days now with only 2 sticks of the 512 crucial memory in banks 1 & 2. System runs awesome, not a reboot or error to be found. I took the remaining sticks last night and put them in slots 3 & 4 and removed the first two. System started freezing and giving same problems as before. So I took the ones out of 3 & 4 and put them in 1 & 2, system runs awesome again. I did memtest on all 4 of them individually and they all passed, even with the extended tests. So now I am left to believe there is something wrong with the motherboard reading slots 3 & 4 of the ram. Does this sound correct?

 

[computer]

In my case using a DC kit, my two sticks worked the same in any slots. You won't know for sure until you can check other memory from a DC kit. Crucial isn't matched pairs, which sometimes can cause odd behavior. Just a guess if it's not the mobo.

 

[Kawy]

I talked with one of the crucial techs on the phone yesterday asking about the memory that I had bought. He said they are matched and that there should be no problem. Which seems to be right since both sets work just fine in slots one and two, which are black and blue, so it doesnt need to be matched. Moving to the other black and blue is when the problems happen.

 

[Abydos]

Well, I spent the better half of last night troubleshooting and trying various things. Right now, I can turn on the computer with only the memory and vid card installed. Once I connect power to my drives, I get the System failed CPU test message. I went out and got another power supply (Enermax Coolergiant model EG385P-VHB) that fit the requirements from Asus tech support. This didn't solve the problem, so I went back to my older Enermax. At least my older one will power up the system enough to enter BIOS with no drives attached. So, after tinkering around in BIOS (time, date, ect... no voltage, timing, or oc'ing done/changed), I'm getting a new weird error. I hit the power button, and the PC starts up, but in less than 5 seconds, it turns off unexpectedly. To me it seems that the motherboard is A) bleeding off power through a short somewhere B) A CAP isn't holding a voltage steady C) An Inductor isn't properly holding current steady. I'm thinking the power supply is fine, but something on the motherboard isn't handling power right. I think I may have to RMA it.

 

[Abydos]

One quick question, I don't suppose anyone has access to a real schematic of this motherboard so I can try and troubleshoot down to a component?

 

[computer]

I talked with one of the crucial techs on the phone yesterday asking about the memory that I had bought. He said they are matched and that there should be no problem. Which seems to be right since both sets work just fine in slots one and two, which are black and blue, so it doesn't need to be matched. Moving to the other black and blue is when the problems happen.

Yeah they told me that too several months back when I was considering Crucial, but they are not. They are "matched" in the sense they are the same modules, same chips maybe, but they have not been tested as 2 together in a kit form to pass specific tests to be sold as a pair. At any rate, they are probably fine but you won't know for sure until you can try two DC kits. See my post from a while back on 2 sticks Vs. 4 sticks.....

A few days ago I did some memory tests and benchmarks using 4 sticks instead of my two, and new two were OCZ Gold (my current memory is Geil PC4000 Ultra Platinum). I did this for the heck of it since I knew odd things may happen mixing two different memory brands. For one, the max O'clock was only 265mhz compared to 281mhz with Geil alone, and 288mhz with OCZ alone (which I sort of expected). However what I did not expect, and the problem is these were all 256mb single sided modules, yet PAT would not work!! What's up with that? Why would PAT show disabled with 4 SINGLE sided sticks?? I heard it gets disabled with DOUBLE sided, but not single sided. Could be PAT became disabled due to the sticks not being matched?? Are any of you running 4 single sided memory modules and PAT is still showing enabled in CPUz?

Still no reply on that, but even with 4 tested & matched sticks consisting of 2 DC kits, you usually don't achieve as high of an O'clock indicating that 2 true DC kits are not matched well since only 1 pair are matched.

 

[computer]

Abydos there could be something wrong with one of the periph devices. Try another optical drive and HD or whatever you have connected, also cables, and see if it still won't boot. If you still have the problem then it's the mobo. (If yours is in a case already) I'd also remove the mobo from the case and disconnect the case's connectors. This is why I NEVER put a mobo in a case until all devices are hooked up and the OS is installed. I've heard that some of the mobo's mounting holes are not properly grounded and mounting the mobo can cause a slight short. Even with the impedance of being a "slight short" it's enough to mess things up. There MIGHT be chance that your mobo is one of the ones with the mounting hole problem. It could also be an FET VR since this mobo's FET's almost melt they get so hot. If after all this you determine it's the mobo, I wouldn't try to fix it because if you do try and you can't, or if you CAN fix it and something else goes wrong with it, you'll never be able to RMA it then.

 

[lionheart3]

if i have 2 sata drives set up on the built in promise raid controller, can i still add a larger sata drive for storage/backup to the other sata (non raid) connectors on the motherboard, or do i need to use a pata drive?
my board is a p4c800 deluxe. the bios and promise drivers are up to date

 

[ItsMillerTime]

computer, how is your IS7 system coming along?

I need a solid, inexpensive motherboard for my nephew's new system. I was thinking of getting an IS7 ( I used one in a system about a year ago, and haven't had any problems; using a non-OC 2.4C with 2x512 Samsung pc3200) but NewEgg has the MSI Neo2-PFS for $82. I haven't used MSI mobos, but I like their video cards.

Just wondering if either one has an issue with any RAM. I'm thinking about using my OCZ pc3700 Gold on this system and getting the OCZ pc4000 Gold for my p4c800e; I like the numbers jhites is hitting with his system

I will be using the 2.8C on the new system, probably at 233FSB. The MSI does not have IEEE-1394

 

[computer]

computer, how is your IS7 system coming along?

I have several questions on the IS7 of which I posted, and have gone ignored. That IS7 thread is DEAD evidently and everyone has unsub'd from it. I can't get PAT enabled (BIOS 17). Any GAT settings other than "Auto" result in a no boot. Even with OCZ Gold PC4000. I don't like the IS7 near as much as my Asus. For one, if you change a setting in the BIOS where it won't boot, you're screwed and have to clear CMOS and start over! That's enough for me. The 2.4C also runs hot, about 15° hotter than my Asus (even as measured in Windows). The IS7 has a lot more fan headers, however there may be only one on the Asus for a reason and that got me thinking. Fan headers put more of a load on the mobo's VR's and many recommend converting your 3-pin fans to 4-pin to not stress the mobo. What I'm doing anyway is using a DigitalDoc5 to monitor up to 8 fans. Also the IS7's max Vdimm is only 2.8v! It would be in even more need of the Vdimm mod that the Asus.

So, I like my P4C800-E Deluxe more, but it is a lot more expensive. Those Promise SATA and IDE ports scream, and the IS7 only has Native IDE and SATA. So, I think for the money maybe the non E version of the Asus may be your best bet IF it has integrated Promise, I can't recall. Maybe the IS7-G would be ok, but I think you'd still have the GAT/PAT settings problem and the issue with having to clear the CMOS in a no boot situation. The MSI NeoFIS2R is an awesome mobo, but I've heard of more memory issues with it. IS7 I got has FireWire.

BTW, see my post on Geil compared to OCZ 4000 Gold. The Geil PC4000 Ultra Platinum was faster at the same bus speeds. I tested DC kits of both on the Asus.

 

[jhites]

ItsMillerTime
The Abit boards read temps about 5-7C higher than the Asus boards. If you want to go with Abit i865, take a look at the Abit AI7 instead of the IS7.

 

[anberg]

Problem: mb only sees two slots for RAM when all four filled

Put in two matched gig sticks of Corsair TWINX2048-3200PT 2GB DDR400 XMS3200 Memory and things were fine

Put in two more matched sticks of same RAM (4 GB total):

Windows sees 4GB

Photoshop only sees 2GB

Went to mb dialog box. mb sees it has a stick in each slot. When the "Memory" icon is clicked though it only registers 2 GB total

Help?

 

[DaveR]

Hello ALL:

WOW, so much to read here!

I have a P4 that my wife is now using from Gateway. I want to build one for myself as I am now using a SOYO/PIII500 OC'ed to 560. It is so slow now!

It looks like the ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe is the MoBo to get and from all these posts I should save a few $$$ and get a 3.0C (non-Prescot) CPU.

I see that the SATA drives are getting reasonable...BestBuy has a Seagate 200GB SATA for $199-$70 rebate.

I see so many case/ps and memory issues and wonder if the Antec/380 watt supply is OK.

Also, I just have not seen yet how fast people are able to OC this setup with the 3.0c.

TIA for all help.

 

[computer]

Read more Dave. Get a 2.4C, it's cheaper and an O'clock to 3ghz will have more performance than the 3ghz. Also get the Raptor. It smokes all other SATA drives. If you've got the bucks now, get the new WD740 Raptor, it smokes the old Raptor.

 

[senior guy]

Hey guys, I now have 2 sticks of 512mb Corsair XMS3200 in my P4C800 Dlx. and want to add a second pair of 512 sticks (Photoshop is a memory hog). I need to know if it's important to use the very same modules for my 2nd pair?

Thanks!

 

[DaveR]

Computer...I just looked and the Price difference between the 2.4c and 3.0c seems about $50. Wouldn't a 3.oc be cooler if OC'ed? Just how far can I push the 2.4 or 3.0?

Originally posted by: computer
Read more Dave. Get a 2.4C, it's cheaper and an O'clock to 3ghz will have more performance than the 3ghz. Also get the Raptor. It smokes all other SATA drives. If you've got the bucks now, get the new WD740 Raptor, it smokes the old Raptor.

 

[FINGERS20]

Are you trying to run 4 sticks or 2? Not exactly clear from 1st read of your post. Why shift from blue to black sockets? Blue sockets are default or first set of dimm sockets to use. Only use all four if you are running in dual channel mode. Also, remember that crucial ram may not like to run at anything other than stock speeds and m/b settings. Try running tests in Memtest version 1.0 which will show fsb settings and memory timings. Also will show transfer speed and whether PAT is enabled. Only by buying top dollar matched memory modules can you expect some leeway with overclocking.

 

[computer]

Computer...I just looked and the Price difference between the 2.4c and 3.0c seems about $50. Wouldn't a 3.oc be cooler if OC'ed? Just how far can I push the 2.4 or 3.0?

I don't think it would be cooler since it's the same chip die, same HSF unit, and both cycling @3 billion times per second, although I've never done any tests on that. If you read around here, you'll see some of the O'clock speeds. I'm getting 3.4ghz from my 2.4C (282mhz bus @1:1) and some are getting more. You have to luck out and get a good CPU from Malaysia and not one from China, Philippines, Costa Rica, etc. If you check around the O'clocking sites, you'll see that a 2.4, 2.8 & 3.0 all O'clock to about the same max speed, about 3.5-3.6ghz for good chips. Even a 3.0ghz @3.6ghz is "slower" overall than the 2.4 @ 3.4ghz since the FSB is higher with the originally slower CPU, and it will have higher memory bandwidth and performance. A typical desktop PC uses very few CPU cycles and CPU resources, but much more so relies on memory for performance; therefore the higher the FSB, the better overall system performance if the CPU speeds are close. The exceptions of course would be if you do the type of computing or gaming that relies solely on CPU speed FPU & ALU type apps then you'd benefit more from simple raw CPU speed.