*** Official ASUS P4P800/Deluxe (865PE) Thread ***

[jaeger66]

Never enable any kind of "Turbo" option. This is true with any board and any RAM.

 

[johnyvt]

Sounds like good advice. If I ever get this running I'm never turning on turbo mode again. Now if all that fan and hard drive spinning in the case would translate to the thing booting on screen...

 

[maximumx8]

Never enable any kind of "Turbo" option. This is true with any board and any RAM.

Huh? You have to enable turbo, and MAM to make PAT work. Correct?

What is good DDR for this board, and a 2.4C @250 FSB??

 

[johnyvt]

Here's an odd fix for ya...went to Best Buy and picked up one stick of HyperX which booted the machine fine. Tweaked the bios, then replaced it which my two 512mb sticks of Crucial. Everything seems to be fine, I've enabled MAM but you can be damn sure I'm not turning turbo on again. Oddly, I know Turbo will boot if I set the FSB manually above 200. When I get the courage to overclock again maybe I'll see if I can run a 250mhz FSB with the Crucial at 200mhz (2.5-3-3-6). I got the system to benchmark pretty well at 1:1 225mhz (3-3-3-7) before.

 

[jaeger66]

Originally posted by: maximumx8
Huh? You have to enable turbo, and MAM to make PAT work. Correct?

Incorrect. Even if PAT was worth enabling, and it isn't, all you need is MAM. Turbo...well the problem with "Turbo" is that it can mean absolutely anything.

 

[Steelwingz]

O.K., I don't get it.

First off, my machine runs stable at 1:1. 200 Mhz FSB, with memory at SPD setting. So I KNOW that the memory is capable of running at 200 Mhz.

Second, the CPU runs stable at 255 Mhz fsb. My 2.4C has a 12 multiplier, so this gets me 3.06 Ghz. Not the best overclocking 2.4 chip, but it's better than nothing. The fastest I can get my memory to run with a 255 Mhz FSB is with a 3:2 divider. That puts the memory at 170.85. This configuration ran two instances of CPUBurnIn for 24 hours, and also passed ten runs of memtest86.

Now here's what I don't get... I'd like to get the memory up to 200 mhz, so I changed the divider to 5:4. With this setting, the best I can get (stable) is a 240 mhz fsb. This gives me a processor running at 2.88 Ghz, and memory at 192!

What I'd really like to do is run the fsb at 250, which would put the memory at 200. So the question is, why would the memory run at 200 (1:1 fsb at 200), but it won't run at 200 when the fsb is at 250 with a 5:4 divider (again yielding memory at 200)?

What could be the problem here? It doesn't seem like it would be the memory, since it was quite able to do 200 mhz at 1:1. The CPU was very comfortable at 255 fsb. So that leaves the motherboard...

Comments? suggestions? help???

I'm not running MAM, nor Turbo, I've tried increasing the ram voltage, totally relaxed memory timings. None of these have helped.

 

[weasal42]

Alright everyone... finally got my board back from Asus after two weeks and now I need to buy some memory. Im debating on whether I should get a 512 kit of HyperX 3500 now or wait a week or two when I get some more money and get a 1 gig kit.

Is anyone running the 512MB kit? Any disappointments in speed?

 

[mOrphine]

here's a recent budget dual channel memory PC32000 roundup

 

[DSRaider]

My setup:

P4P800 DX
Pentium 2.4C Boxed hSF
Mem Kingston KVR400X64C3AK2/512 (dual channel kit)
Verto GeForce 4 MX420 AGP
Maxtor 6Y060P0
Maxtor 6Y120PO
BIOS 1005 & 1009
NO Overclocking
Win XP Home & Win98SE

When I initially got the mobo a 1 ½ week ago it won't post. Nothing would happen however the board had power: the green light was on, the IDE lights worked, the CPU fan was working. I called Asus and followed their instructions. Removed the board from the case removed every component and cleared the CMOS. I installed the CPU and the board started posting. It started beeping on what I assume would be the mem test. Added component by component and the board worked. However, it would not recognize my second IDE drive (Maxtor 6Y120PO) in the multiboot pop-up screen. Yesterday I flashed BIOS v. 1009 over 1005 and no problems: it rebooted fine and worked fine throughout the day. This morning the board refused to post once again. Same issue fully powered but nothing happens. I removed and started de-installing the components one by one. The board started beeping when I removed the memory.

Question: Do I have defective DIMMs or do a have a motherboard with issues?

I have RMA the Kingston memory today and hopefully will get new sticks by Friday. If the problem persists

 

[bawaji]

Originally posted by: mOrphine
here's a recent budget dual channel memory PC32000 roundup

Corrected Link.

I get the following error in Mozilla 1.4 when accessing the page:

A script on this page is causing mozilla to run slowly. If it continues to run, your computer may become unresponsive. Do you want to abort the script?

Is this something to be worried about? Is the site trying to run something on my PC without my knowledge? The page seems to be running a javascript on googlesyndication.com

 

[mOrphine]

sorry for the wrong linkage, but the page opens fine for me in opera

 

[jaeger66]

Fine in Mozilla.

 

[bawaji]

Hmmm... It is probably a combination of Mozilla and Norton Internet Security/Antivirus that is causing this anamoly. Windows Task Manager also reports 50% CPU usage by Mozilla (on my 1GB RAM 2.8c machine) before the message pops up after several seconds. Once I close the box however, the page shows up fine!

Sorry for diverting focus from the topic of this thread. Glad to know others are not having the same problem.

 

[Slammy1]

Here's an issue with ATA speed that a lot of people seem to be having:
Slow ATA Issue

I was curious if other people here have similar issues.

 

[Flakk]

Originally posted by: Slammy1
Here's an issue with ATA speed that a lot of people seem to be having:
Slow ATA Issue

I was curious if other people here have similar issues.

yeah i have been trying to fix my slow drive on the via controller (raid-0 mode for two maxtor 15gb 7200 2mb drives).. In HD Tach I score 32,384kb/sec and that just seems kinda slow for TWO drives.. you should be able to easily score that on ONE drive shouldnt you?

 

[Slammy1]

Yes, someone else had the exact same problem that posted on that thread. Seems to be a known issue on this board, one which they'll hopefully fix in a future BIOS update. I'd recommend posting to the thread I linked to if you have this issue, it may help in the resolution of the problem .

 

[Thor86]

Originally posted by: Steelwingz
O.K., I don't get it.

First off, my machine runs stable at 1:1. 200 Mhz FSB, with memory at SPD setting. So I KNOW that the memory is capable of running at 200 Mhz.

Second, the CPU runs stable at 255 Mhz fsb. My 2.4C has a 12 multiplier, so this gets me 3.06 Ghz. Not the best overclocking 2.4 chip, but it's better than nothing. The fastest I can get my memory to run with a 255 Mhz FSB is with a 3:2 divider. That puts the memory at 170.85. This configuration ran two instances of CPUBurnIn for 24 hours, and also passed ten runs of memtest86.

Now here's what I don't get... I'd like to get the memory up to 200 mhz, so I changed the divider to 5:4. With this setting, the best I can get (stable) is a 240 mhz fsb. This gives me a processor running at 2.88 Ghz, and memory at 192!

What I'd really like to do is run the fsb at 250, which would put the memory at 200. So the question is, why would the memory run at 200 (1:1 fsb at 200), but it won't run at 200 when the fsb is at 250 with a 5:4 divider (again yielding memory at 200)?

What could be the problem here? It doesn't seem like it would be the memory, since it was quite able to do 200 mhz at 1:1. The CPU was very comfortable at 255 fsb. So that leaves the motherboard...

Comments? suggestions? help???

I'm not running MAM, nor Turbo, I've tried increasing the ram voltage, totally relaxed memory timings. None of these have helped.

More than likely your motherboard can't handle the higher FSB speeds. This is exactly what happened on my P4P800, and ever since going with an Abit IC7, I've been able to clock higher - more stable, more likely from the results of the i875 chipset able to overclock higher. With the i865, it's a down to luck on clocking anything higher than 200fsb.

 

[jaeger66]

Originally posted by: Thor86


More than likely your motherboard can't handle the higher FSB speeds. This is exactly what happened on my P4P800, and ever since going with an Abit IC7, I've been able to clock higher - more stable, more likely from the results of the i875 chipset able to overclock higher. With the i865, it's a down to luck on clocking anything higher than 200fsb.

It's luck regardless of brand. Saying that Brand X overclocks better than Brand Y is nearly always a fallacious statement. Any board that is screened for OC would be likely so expensive as to be unmarketable.

 

[Slammy1]

I don't know, I'd buy it (pending reviews, of course). But I guess there are a lot of people who think o/c'ing is bad. Maybe for them it is bad?

 

[sleeeepy]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
I try to install XP On the RAID 0 and it goes ok until it tries to startup from the drive for the final phase of the install. Then I get something that says Windows cannot start because it couldn't read the selected boot disk.

What the heck do i do?


P4P800 Nondelux

i'm having the exact same problem and apparently no one's replied to it for a month.... so can someone help me? i can do everything just fine if i put them in IDE (no RAID). just when i put it in RAID apparently windows doesn't recognize the drives.

 

[Slammy1]

Try removing everything from the Primary IDE. Sorry I can't be more helpful. I had to do that to get XP to install to my Raptors. It'd install actually, just wouldn't boot. I think that's just an issue with the IDE RAID, so it probably doesn't affect the non-deluxe model. Still, run it up the flagpole if you haven't tried.

 

[b4u]

Need help on connecting the extra USB & Firewite ports on my Case.

Since it can be taken as a generic external connectors, I posted a diferent topic ... linking to it now, since I have a P4P800 Deluxe.

Topic: P4P800 - extra USB & Firewire connections

It's a big topic, but you can just read the questions and check the link to the extra USB/1394 manual.

I have an idea, just wanna be sure before frying the mobo (not at all desirable)


Thanks

 

[OptimusRhyme]

Ok, need some advice in what to do.

I recently purchased the P4P800 DLX and a 2.4C chip. When i installed them, and had them running, i would at times have small graphical glitches. Then, after a little more time, the computer would just shut down after being in windows for around 3 seconds. Sometimes it wouldnt even get in. Most of the time it would just come up with a blue error saying Windows had shut down to prevent damage. It would even come up at times saying it was an error with the video card.

So i just thought it was my video card. I own a Ti4600, and needed a agp 3.0 card to try, since the motherboard only takes them. So i tried my brothers 9800 pro. It did the same thing. I just figured it was my new mobo. So I packed it all up, got ready to ship it back. Then i tried my video card on my roommates computer. It worked no problem. He ran some games without problem. Then I put together my old system with my TI4600, and it ran fine....for a moment. Then the graphical problems started to occur again. I placed a very old Rage128 card or whatever it is in my old system, and it ran fine. I wasnt fully pleased, so i tried my TI4600 again, and its working fine. No problems at all.

What could my problems be? I thought maybe it was the AGP slot in the P4P800 or my powersupply? Its a 420w antec.

I read earlier on here that someone was having problems with his TI4600 and had to use stock drivers, and not asus drivers. I just use beta drivers as it is, not ones from nvidias site.

I'm lost at what it could be, any help would be great.

 

[Slammy1]

When you get an error, make sure to write down the code so we can search the MS knowledge base and appear more knowledgable than we really are. Make sure your AGP/PCI is locked to 66/33. Disable turbo, as you can tell from various posts in the thread, and try upping the voltage for your memory slightly. If that doesn't work, try a slight increase in voltage to your VAGP (say 1.55V), though that's a scary proposition for obvious reasons.

 

[Thor86]

Originally posted by: jaeger66

Originally posted by: Thor86


More than likely your motherboard can't handle the higher FSB speeds. This is exactly what happened on my P4P800, and ever since going with an Abit IC7, I've been able to clock higher - more stable, more likely from the results of the i875 chipset able to overclock higher. With the i865, it's a down to luck on clocking anything higher than 200fsb.

It's luck regardless of brand. Saying that Brand X overclocks better than Brand Y is nearly always a fallacious statement. Any board that is screened for OC would be likely so expensive as to be unmarketable.

Maybe you should re-read my statements. I mentioned that the i875 chipset would be better suited to overclocking over the i865. I never said Abit brand is better than Asus brand.