*** Official ASUS P4P800/Deluxe (865PE) Thread ***

[ForbiddenDonut]

Thanks for the tip chefjoe! Googlegear has the hyperx stuff at about 15$ less per stick than the corsair xms3500. Can anyone verify that this is a safe bet with 2x512 at spd settings?

 

[cmdrdredd]

well, you'd have to ask Kingston or Asus

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: lehuykhoi
Help. Can't overclock my P4P800 non deluxe!

I've got a P4 2.4C / P4P800 non deluxe / 2 x Corsair XMS-3500. I can overclock fine till around 215Mhz with CPU External Frequency 215Mhz, but anything above that my system won't boot, and I get the message "Overclocking Failed" in the POST screen. I've tried using DRAM Frequency 400/320/266Mhz and none of them post. I've set Performance Mode to Standard and Turbo, I've upped my CPU vcore to 1.675 and DDR Voltage to 2.75 but still no post!

What could be the problem? I'm afraid to push the voltages higher in fear that it'll fry. Anyone have any ideas what the problem could be?? I've bought all the recommended components and it's not working! Could it be my HSF? I'm using the standard intel HSF.

I've also tried various DRAM timings and also tried it on by speed. Please help!

2.5-3-3-6 seems to be recommended on corsair's forums. Try that unless you have already. try a bios update (1.007)

 

[ChefJoe]

Originally posted by: mngisdood

Originally posted by: Gekkan
So this mobo isnt good for OC?? right?

Could anyone tell me if the board supports vcore UNDERvolting please? How much?

Thx

Bump. I've seen some reviews and few testimonials as to it being a good overclocker, but I'd like to see more before I come to a conclusion...

The vcore can be adjusted between 1.525 and 1.95 v... or at least the 1.007 bios and my P4 2.8C only allows those options.

 

[Thor86]

For some info on the P4P800 non-deluxe with both 2.4C and 2.6C overclocks.

 

[Supacat]

I recently bought this board and for the most part it rocks! There is an issue though that I can't figure out. Ok I have my 2 200 GB HDs setup in raid 0 array and I am having the weirdest problem. If I am listening to MP3a or any sound for that matter and transfering files onto the array, my sound begins to crack and pop for the duration of the transfer. When I tell you I have tried everything, I have tried EVERYTHING! I upgraded the bios to(beta 1007.10), upgraded the Promise fastrak raid drivers(1.0.0.25), bought a new sound card(from a Creative live to an Audigy2), disabled the onboard lan and installed a PCI nic, changed power supply to a Antec True Power 550, cried and prayed to every god in the book I dont want to send this board back but if I do im getting the Abit IC7-G. I worked in I.T. for the last 5 yrs and have built numerous systems and this prob got me bad. If I transfer to a drive that is not in raid it works fine and if I transfer between drives locally it works fine. I transfer files over my network while listening to mp3s or watching divx movies often. If anyone has this board with there drives in a Raid 0 config I would be extremely grateful if you can try this on yours. I want to rule out that it is the boards issue with onboard raid that I have been reading about or maybe its just a bad apple in the bunch. Thanks for any help or suggestions

 

[Tavoc]

I have heard of other people having the same problem you are having. Have you tried looking for other threads on it yet? My only idea is that its probably something to do with the promise controller going through the PCI Bus. I dont think switching boards will solve the problem, I think its a creative issue that they should be able to fix with new drivers.

 

[Supacat]

Thanks for the reply Tavoc! Can you please direct me to the thread that you read that people are experiencing this same issue. I have been looking but can't find. Also when you said returning wouldnt solve problem did you mean for another Asus or all Canterwoods? Thanks in advance

 

[rhawk79]

I had this problem, although in a somewhat different manner. All Creative soundcards from the live on up to the Audigy2 are plagued with this problem. From what I've read on various forums, many have experienced this. The problem is that the soundcard is a major hog on the pci bus. If you goto Creative's website, they'll give you all the usual bullshit responses, like defrag you hard drive, etc...

For me I got the sound distortion anytime the network card was being accessed. My hard drives are scsi so if I used IDE perhaps it would have happened there too. As it turns out, after scouring forums for a loooooooooooooong time, (this was a few months ago)...the problem can be solved by fiddling with the PCI slot that your soundcard is installed in. Some people that I talked to said the card needed to be at a high IRQ and with no conflicts. For me, moving the card down one slot ended up fixing the problem. Wierd because this actually lowered the IRQ. In any case, try moving the soundcard around to different slots, see what happens. As a starting point, remove any pci cards that you don't need installed to test this....just make sure your NIC is installed so you can test with that. Hope this helps...and it has nothing to do with your mobo, mine was on a completely different chipset, I850E...not everyone has this problem so that may explain why it didn't happen on your previous board...nonetheless, search on google for things like "soundblaster audigy crackling sound"...and you'll find that you're not the only one with this problem.

 

[ronnn]

I bought a oem 9700 pro with my p4p800 board. It turned out to be Rev A00 (no wonder so cheap). Anyways I heard that these early builds are not good with this board. Do I need to return this card? I only have so much time to do this. It seems to work fine, but have only tried older games. Seems to run Need For Speed Hot Pursuit 2 perfectly.

 

[edwardhchan]

First, the rig:

P4 2.8C
P4P800 Deluxe
2 256MB Kingston HyperX PC3200 KHX3200/256

Now the problem:

I cannot get this setup to work stably with Hyperthreading, Turbo, and Memory Enhancement all on, no matter what the timing. Do people with a similar setup have the same problem? Here's how I test: I run two instances of Prime95 (run one as "prime95.exe" and a second as "prime95.exe -A1"). Set one process to run on CPU0 (through the Advanced -> Affinity menu item) and the second to run on CPU1. Even on RAM timings set to 3.0-3-3-7-8 and 2.75V to the DDR, I get a failure in one instance within 5-10 minutes, while the other will keep on going. If I turn off Turbo mode, I can run the RAM on default voltage, 2.0-3-3-6-8 and run both instances of Prime95 for hours on end with no problem. Have those of you who tried intensive dual-CPU tasks run into the same issues with Turbo mode?

Ed

 

[ChefJoe]

Originally posted by: edwardhchan
First, the rig:

P4 2.8C
P4P800 Deluxe
2 256MB Kingston HyperX PC3200 KHX3200/256

Now the problem:

I cannot get this setup to work stably with Hyperthreading, Turbo, and Memory Enhancement all on, no matter what the timing. Do people with a similar setup have the same problem? Here's how I test: I run two instances of Prime95 (run one as "prime95.exe" and a second as "prime95.exe -A1"). Set one process to run on CPU0 (through the Advanced -> Affinity menu item) and the second to run on CPU1. Even on RAM timings set to 3.0-3-3-7-8 and 2.75V to the DDR, I get a failure in one instance within 5-10 minutes, while the other will keep on going. If I turn off Turbo mode, I can run the RAM on default voltage, 2.0-3-3-6-8 and run both instances of Prime95 for hours on end with no problem. Have those of you who tried intensive dual-CPU tasks run into the same issues with Turbo mode?

Ed

What OS ?

 

[ForbiddenDonut]

does anyone here have this board running with 2x512 ram at SPD settings? If so, what ram are you using?

Thanks

 

[Thor86]

Originally posted by: ForbiddenDonut
does anyone here have this board running with 2x512 ram at SPD settings? If so, what ram are you using?

Thanks

Yes, but when running stock settings only. When overclocking, you will get instability when using SPD settings.

 

[Thor86]

Originally posted by: Supacat
I recently bought this board and for the most part it rocks! There is an issue though that I can't figure out. Ok I have my 2 200 GB HDs setup in raid 0 array and I am having the weirdest problem. If I am listening to MP3a or any sound for that matter and transfering files onto the array, my sound begins to crack and pop for the duration of the transfer. When I tell you I have tried everything, I have tried EVERYTHING! I upgraded the bios to(beta 1007.10), upgraded the Promise fastrak raid drivers(1.0.0.25), bought a new sound card(from a Creative live to an Audigy2), disabled the onboard lan and installed a PCI nic, changed power supply to a Antec True Power 550, cried and prayed to every god in the book I dont want to send this board back but if I do im getting the Abit IC7-G. I worked in I.T. for the last 5 yrs and have built numerous systems and this prob got me bad. If I transfer to a drive that is not in raid it works fine and if I transfer between drives locally it works fine. I transfer files over my network while listening to mp3s or watching divx movies often. If anyone has this board with there drives in a Raid 0 config I would be extremely grateful if you can try this on yours. I want to rule out that it is the boards issue with onboard raid that I have been reading about or maybe its just a bad apple in the bunch. Thanks for any help or suggestions

I'm using an Audigy 2 OEM and an P4P800 non-deluxe board, and have absolutely no problems, but unfortunately I do not use the built in IDE raid or IDE drives. There may be updated IDE raid drivers on the Asus website.

 

[Thor86]

Originally posted by: edwardhchan
First, the rig:

P4 2.8C
P4P800 Deluxe
2 256MB Kingston HyperX PC3200 KHX3200/256

Now the problem:

I cannot get this setup to work stably with Hyperthreading, Turbo, and Memory Enhancement all on, no matter what the timing. Do people with a similar setup have the same problem? Here's how I test: I run two instances of Prime95 (run one as "prime95.exe" and a second as "prime95.exe -A1"). Set one process to run on CPU0 (through the Advanced -> Affinity menu item) and the second to run on CPU1. Even on RAM timings set to 3.0-3-3-7-8 and 2.75V to the DDR, I get a failure in one instance within 5-10 minutes, while the other will keep on going. If I turn off Turbo mode, I can run the RAM on default voltage, 2.0-3-3-6-8 and run both instances of Prime95 for hours on end with no problem. Have those of you who tried intensive dual-CPU tasks run into the same issues with Turbo mode?

Ed

Are you overclocking? If so, you should always use Standard settings under Performance Mode if you are NOT using 400mhz (1:1) memory settings/ratio. If you do, then you will get instability like your Prime95 erroring out. You won't get any performance boost using Turbo if you are using 266/320 memory settings/ratios, only at 400. If not, even with Turbo mode, you should try and relax your memory timings to at least 2.5-3-3-7-8 (Auto)(Auto).

 

[donfm]

Is anyone using this board with 2 sticks of 512MB Kingston Hyperex 3500 C2 memory dual channel and what settings are you using?

 

[edwardhchan]

Originally posted by: Thor86<brAre you overclocking? If so, you should always use Standard settings under Performance Mode if you are NOT using 400mhz (1:1) memory settings/ratio. If you do, then you will get instability like your Prime95 erroring out. You won't get any performance boost using Turbo if you are using 266/320 memory settings/ratios, only at 400. If not, even with Turbo mode, you should try and relax your memory timings to at least 2.5-3-3-7-8 (Auto)(Auto).

I'm not overclocking, my memory is running at 400 MHz and is fine in non-turbo mode. I'm just curious if people who use turbo mode and run dual-processing intensive tasks have the same prime95 errors I do. As I stated earlier, with turbo mode on, and timings set to 3.0-3-3-7-8, I still conk out on prime95, and the system exhibits signs of instability. I'm fine running in standard mode, but I just want to make sure I'm not getting short-changed.

Ed

 

[SleepyGreggy]

Any people receiving boards shipping with 1007: from which vendor?

 

[Thor86]

Originally posted by: edwardhchan

I'm not overclocking, my memory is running at 400 MHz and is fine in non-turbo mode. I'm just curious if people who use turbo mode and run dual-processing intensive tasks have the same prime95 errors I do. As I stated earlier, with turbo mode on, and timings set to 3.0-3-3-7-8, I still conk out on prime95, and the system exhibits signs of instability. I'm fine running in standard mode, but I just want to make sure I'm not getting short-changed.

Ed

Can you download cpuz and see what your ram timings are when using turbo mode? Then compare these timing numbers with what is spd for your ram. Here is what I think is happening, because this happened to me with Performance Mode set to Turbo at 1:1 (400mhz) memory ratio. It basically uses SPD settings of your ram, which in turn may cause instability. My Corsair ram uses 2-2-2-5 timings when using SPD settings. Even though I Manual settings and change them to 2.5-3-3-6, when using Performance Mode set to Turbo, cpuz says they are running at 2-2-2-5.

 

[ChefJoe]

Originally posted by: Thor86

Originally posted by: edwardhchan

I'm not overclocking, my memory is running at 400 MHz and is fine in non-turbo mode. I'm just curious if people who use turbo mode and run dual-processing intensive tasks have the same prime95 errors I do. As I stated earlier, with turbo mode on, and timings set to 3.0-3-3-7-8, I still conk out on prime95, and the system exhibits signs of instability. I'm fine running in standard mode, but I just want to make sure I'm not getting short-changed.

Ed

Can you download cpuz and see what your ram timings are when using turbo mode? Then compare these timing numbers with what is spd for your ram. Here is what I think is happening, because this happened to me with Performance Mode set to Turbo at 1:1 (400mhz) memory ratio. It basically uses SPD settings of your ram, which in turn may cause instability. My Corsair ram uses 2-2-2-5 timings when using SPD settings. Even though I Manual settings and change them to 2.5-3-3-6, when using Performance Mode set to Turbo, cpuz says they are running at 2-2-2-5.

Really? Turbo Performance Mode might change the ram timings? Have you checked what cpuz reports when Performance mode is set to standard and your manual settings are made?

 

[xxsk8er101xx]

Hey,

Well i got my board. I'm not ready to palce my review of it yet though.

I do have a question. keep in mind everything is running fine so far.

When i reboot my computer i get a beep, and then i get another beep and then 3 beeps in a row. i looked it up and i'm thinking it might be the long beep and then 3 short beeps. it says here "either no video card is connected or video card video memory bad". but it seems fine - i don't have any problems so far.

anyone have a clue? if my video card is bad how do i RMA a ATI video card and prove that my video card is bad??

thanks!

 

[xxsk8er101xx]

double posted

 

[Slammy1]

Originally posted by: xxsk8er101xx
Hey,

Well i got my board. I'm not ready to palce my review of it yet though.

I do have a question. keep in mind everything is running fine so far.

When i reboot my computer i get a beep, and then i get another beep and then 3 beeps in a row. i looked it up and i'm thinking it might be the long beep and then 3 short beeps. it says here "either no video card is connected or video card video memory bad". but it seems fine - i don't have any problems so far.

anyone have a clue? if my video card is bad how do i RMA a ATI video card and prove that my video card is bad??

thanks!

The short beeps areyour connected USB bus. The long beep is probably either memory (make sure it's seated correctly) or video (I'm just guessing). Make sure your AGP/PCI are locked in BIOS at 66/33.

 

[edwardhchan]

Originally posted by: Thor86

Can you download cpuz and see what your ram timings are when using turbo mode? Then compare these timing numbers with what is spd for your ram. Here is what I think is happening, because this happened to me with Performance Mode set to Turbo at 1:1 (400mhz) memory ratio. It basically uses SPD settings of your ram, which in turn may cause instability. My Corsair ram uses 2-2-2-5 timings when using SPD settings. Even though I Manual settings and change them to 2.5-3-3-6, when using Performance Mode set to Turbo, cpuz says they are running at 2-2-2-5.

Thanks for the tip! I didn't know such software existed. Anyways, just as you said, my memory is running at 2.0-2-2-5 in Turbo mode, according to CPUz. I guess that explains something, but it still doesn't explain how you can get SiSoft Integer memory to ~5000 with it turned on, but only ~4600 in standard mode.

Also, for those who are running the same Kingston HyperX PC3200 in dual channel mode, I was able get stability at the 2.0-2-3-5-8 with Performance Mode "Auto" and Memory Acceleration Mode "Enabled". For those who are unaware, DRAM Burst Length should be longer for better performance.

Ed