*** Official ASUS P4P800/Deluxe (865PE) Thread ***

[spwango]

Well, you can then run it without duel channel, can you not? Is that a huge performance gain in real world terms? I just bought the stick of corsair a few months ago chasing a problem with my current machine (1800+ XP), it seems silly to turn around a month and a half later and junk 1G of ram unless there is a very good reason to do so. Thanks for the help, btw!

 

[RalfHutter]

Originally posted by: spwango
Well, you can then run it without duel channel, can you not? Is that a huge performance gain in real world terms? I just bought the stick of corsair a few months ago chasing a problem with my current machine (1800+ XP), it seems silly to turn around a month and a half later and junk 1G of ram unless there is a very good reason to do so. Thanks for the help, btw!

Yes, you can certainly run it in regular old "non-dual channel" mode. You're already going to be limited by your speed (DDR333 vs. the default DDR400 speed, I'm assuming you're not going to be able to OC your memory to PC3200 speeds) so you probably won't notice the bit of a performance hit you'll be getting by not running in dual channel mode.

 

[JSC924]

I currently have 2 WD 36 GB Raptor HDs installed in a Raid 0 on my P4P800 Deluxe motherboard, but when i try to install WinXP Pro, the Raid 0 doesn't show up, even when i pressed F6 to load the raid drivers. Can anyone help?

 

[mattzz]

does anyone know what the best bios is for the p4p800 deluxe

 

[thundershaft]

Originally posted by: JSC924
I currently have 2 WD 36 GB Raptor HDs installed in a Raid 0 on my P4P800 Deluxe motherboard, but when i try to install WinXP Pro, the Raid 0 doesn't show up, even when i pressed F6 to load the raid drivers. Can anyone help?

Raid 0/.. did you do it in windows first?

 

[Elvis2]

Raid 0/.. did you do it in windows first?

How can he "do it in windows first" if he's loading the drivers during windows installation?

35C924, I believe the problem is not being able to boot off a sata RAID configuratiion. I know, I tried for hours to get mine to boot off a Raptor Raid setup . I was extremely dissappointed that I couldn't get it to work. I finally wound up booting off a pata Raid config and using one Raptor for a game drive.

I wonder if the Canterwood (875P) boards have this problem.

Also, I'm totally unable to o/c this thing past 220 fsb ( 2 x 256 sticks of OCZ EL DDR PC3700 Gold ram) without getting artifacting using my 9800 Pro. It's definitely not a heat problem since I'm using a well ventilated Antec SX 840 case and the cpu is liquid cooled. I even went as far as installing a lapped Thermaltake Tiger one on the northbridge but that didn't help. If I reduce the ram speed to 320mhz, it will o/c up to 250fsb no problem but I have some killer ram and want to run it 1:1. I'm thinking I have a weak nb chip here. Again, I wonder if the Canterwood boards are having a similar problem.

 

[Slammy1]

Make sure you have S-ATA set to RAID and boot rom enabled in the BIOS (Config on first page). Before you enter Windows install, you'll see the boot for the S-ATA RAID. Press <ctrl>-I to enter and make your RAID config (typical 16 or 32k, if you're doing more large file manipulation go higher). In Windows, then press F6 to load the RAID drivers. I had problems getting my S-ATA to run. I could've installed to S-ATA from the P-ATA channel, so in effect it jumps to S-ATA for running, but I wanted the S-ATA as C:\. The only way I could find to do that was to depopulate the Primary IDE channel. My install order is chipset drivers, IAA, then VIA RAID. After that, the 3Com, DX9.0, Advanced Networking (so I can install tcpipv6 which eliminates the DHCP warnings) and critical updates, then video and other drivers with sound drivers last.

 

[BugsBunny1078]

Originally posted by: Elvis2

Raid 0/.. did you do it in windows first?

How can he "do it in windows first" if he's loading the drivers during windows installation?

35C924, I believe the problem is not being able to boot off a sata RAID configuratiion. I know, I tried for hours to get mine to boot off a Raptor Raid setup . I was extremely dissappointed that I couldn't get it to work. I finally wound up booting off a pata Raid config and using one Raptor for a game drive.

I wonder if the Canterwood (875P) boards have this problem.

Also, I'm totally unable to o/c this thing past 220 fsb ( 2 x 256 sticks of OCZ EL DDR PC3700 Gold ram) without getting artifacting using my 9800 Pro. It's definitely not a heat problem since I'm using a well ventilated Antec SX 840 case and the cpu is liquid cooled. I even went as far as installing a lapped Thermaltake Tiger one on the northbridge but that didn't help. If I reduce the ram speed to 320mhz, it will o/c up to 250fsb no problem but I have some killer ram and want to run it 1:1. I'm thinking I have a weak nb chip here. Again, I wonder if the Canterwood boards are having a similar problem.

Your video card is overheating because when you overclock our system with your ram at full speed it is removing the bottleneck of processor/ram. This allows your video card to work at its full speed which causes it to overheat. I know this because I had the same problem when upgrading to my p4 2.4c. Only in my case it was a fx5200 which finally got pushed to it's limit. The radeon is faster obviously so it is not pushed to it's limit until you overclock. You may be able to solve this by using some good thermal compund on the gpu and getting extra cooling on the card. I know they make cards the fit into the pci slot that have fans that blow up on the card. One of those would probably solve your troubles.

 

[d64]

I hope this is the right thread for this problem, even if it deals with the intel drivers as well as the motherboard in question.

I have a computer with the p4p800 deluxe mobo, a 2.8g p4 and a pny branded gf fx 5900 ultra. I have used this computer for a while (since september) with windows XP with few problems. However, a couple of days ago I had to reinstall due to changing the harddrive. The reinstall went smoothly, but afterwards I noticed a significant drop in fps in an opengl based game (ET).

I suspected agp drivers, and went to the asus support pages. There is nothing specifically titled as agp drivers for this mobo, but there is the "Intel(R) Chipset Software Installation Utility V5.02.1003". I tried to install it, but the computer rebooted, as if the reset button was pressed, when the files should have started to copy. After this windows would not boot due to pci.sys being corrupt; I had to go to recovery console and take a fresh copy off the xp cd. I even tried installing the older version of the inf utility, it does the same thing; sometimes it installs, and then gives me a dialog box about "this program requiring compatible hardware", which I think I should have, sometimes it reboots, but every time it breaks pci.sys and the fps stays low.

In pc wizard, it lists the following for AGP: "Device: 82865G/PE/P, 82848P PCI-to-AGP Bridge" AND "AGP enabled: No". I don't know if it is just this program that does not work with this motherboard, though.

I did update the bios, it didn't change the situation.

This situation is weird as the computer used to work quite nicely before reinstall. Only difference I can think of is, that this time my system drive ended up being E:, as I had an old ata drive attached when I installed windows. I have since removed it, so there is no C: anymore. It's a long shot, but has anyone had this inf driver thing work in such a configuration?

 

[Slammy1]

Well, the Chipset utility is a really bad one to reboot in the middle of installation. It's related to HD performance, and is in fact the very first thing I install after Windows. I d/l'd the chipset utility from Intel and the VIA RAID drivers from VIA. I don't run a RAID stripe on IDE, but you still have to have install the VIA RAID to use any drives connected. I'd recommend a reformat and reinstall, then install in the following order:
Intel Chipset Utility
Intel Application Accelerator (If you have a striped volume)
VIA RAID drivers (Deluxe model only)
NIC
DirectX 9.0b
(Critical updates, either here or after driver install)
Windows Media Encoder, which I need for my AIW so it's optional also
Video Drivers
Other drivers
Sound drivers last
That should correct anything short of your HD going bad. I also make sure to install the latest drivers for my hardware and don't install from installation CDs. It's not so important for, say, your printer but I'd definitely d/l the latest video and sound drivers. Sometimes if you upgrade from an older version to a newer one it can create issues. It's probably the cause of 70+% of video card problems.

 

[d64]

Yes, this is what I had to do; nothing but a windows reinstall seemed to make the chipset utility work install. Now it is working fine.

 

[Slammy1]

I should reiterate again, since it's been a while since I made this point, if you're looking to buy a motherboard don't buy this board. It has issues, as does the tech support department for Asus. This threads mainly us poor unfortunates that made the mistake of purchasing this board providing support to each other, and should not be taken as a recommendation for its purchase. I don't speak for everyone. <sigh> I just went through another round with Asus' tech support department over the ATA problems, which are a known issue they refuse to support.

 

[CuriousGeeorge]

Doing some testing w/ new system and have asus p4p800d w/ bios 1010 they now have 1014 I believe which updates vt6410. Is there any real reason to upgrade to this?

I have raid 0 on via raid bios 1.12 is what bios says. (2 new seagate 120gb cudas) and have not seen any corruption etc, but have not really benchmarked hd yet. Just memory burn in and basic hw testing. I also cannot remember whether I installed intel application accelerator(I believe no)(hadn't checked yet), I know I looked at it, but something I read on intel's site lead me to believe I was not supposed to use this, I am checking this again,tho. Any input on the use of this...seems like a quirky app?

Also, I have mb power switch to on and soft off, the manual says holding switch for 4 secs cuts the mb off from on state...doesn't work(nothing happens), however regular on/off works fine(obviously, I checked to make sure it is hooked up right). This case does not have smi lead, however. Any input on this?

p4p800d bios 1010
p4 2.6c
asus 9600xt
kingston-khx3500k2/1g
2 cudas 120gb (st3120026a 8mb) raid 0
xp pro sp1
case alum SF201T
thermaltake 480 purepower w/ a pfc

My own P.S.
Verfified why I didn't put accelerator app on, I remembered it was because I am not using SATA raid which I doubled checked on intel's site...of course this makes sense. By the time I add SATA I probably won't use raid unless the boot issue and stability gets resolved...one reason I went ide. Would like to hear about SATA raid success stories or vt6410 for that matter.

 

[swimmersteve]

quick question. will a Corsair XMS (Twin Pack) 512MB(256MBx2) DDR PC-4000 work with this motherboard?
thanks
keep up the good work people.

 

[maximumx8]

 

[StealthPants]

Anyone know how the P4S800D-E compares with this ? its a bit cheaper and seems to offer mostly the same functionality (from what I can see anyway ).

 

[mngisdood]

From what I've seen, performance is similar (within 3-5%), making it a good choice imho.

 

[spoondigity]

I have a tough problem maybe someone has seen before. I have a p4p800 standard board. Everything was running fine with an ide hard drive (it has been running problem free ever since this board came out). I removed the ide drive and replaced it with a hitachi deskstar 80gig sata drive (I did not put the ide hard drive back in). I built the os from the ground up and everything seemed fine. Later I was moving some Internet Explorer favorite links around into different folders and I noticed that they were being duplicated into the new place I would put them. So basically, if the link 'msn' was under my general favorites, and then I clicked and dragged it into the 'links' folder under my favorites, there would sometimes be two of the 'msn' links created in the links folder. One important note, these links originally came off of a burned cd where I double clicked them to get the page to come up, and then set them as favorites in my browser. I also noticed when installing a game, that 2 folders were created for the game (I was installing LOMAC). It made two lomac folders on the hard drive but one was empty and the other one had the game installed in it. I uninstalled and reinstalled and it did it again (I haven't checked to see if the game has an install bug that does this but I doubt it). When I browse through files on my hard drive from other programs and the operating system, there don't seem to be duplicates of any other files. It is really odd because I would have guessed that these all of my other programs should have some duplicate files in them. I tried a different cd drive to make sure it wasn't somehow my cd drive doing it. It still happens with another cd drive. I am thinking either the new sata drive has a problem (for some reason I don't think this is it), the sata interface is doing it, the ide cd interface is doing it, or the combination of the sata/ide interfaces are not liking each other and causing it. Any input? I am going to check tonight to see if I can make files duplicate in my favorites when they have only been on my hard drive and not on a cd in any way. If they don't, it has to be some kind of interface problem with the cd player working together with a sata drive (because i have never seen the problem with my ide drive).

 

[Karaktu]

Originally posted by: CuriousGeeorge
Doing some testing w/ new system and have asus p4p800d w/ bios 1010 they now have 1014 I believe which updates vt6410. Is there any real reason to upgrade to this?

My VIA RAID performance massively jumped with the 1014 BIOS. Just shy of 65000 in SiSoft Sandra's File System Benchmark. It was sitting at 40000 before. I have 2 x 80gig 8 meg cache Maxtor drives.

One other thing I noticed about the 1014 BIOS is that the FSB real-time clock has been adjusted down slightly (It was probably 134.10 before, now it's actually 133.33).

Joe

 

[PAScott]

Hello all,

I've have a P4P800 Deluxe with a P4 2.4C and 1 gig of Crucial PC3200 DDR. I have an Audigy Gamer soundcard and an ATI 9800 Pro 128mb. I've been running this system at 3.0gigs since I built this setup back in August of 2003. Absolutely no real problems.

I've recently come up with a problem, and thought I would post here to see if anyone has any recommendations. I also have a few questions.

1) When I turn the system on, since day 1, I get a series of 4 or 5 beeps and everything boots up with no problem. I can't seem to identify the beeps using the BIOS beep codes I've read. How do you enable the voice function for the BIOS/Post? I've never been able to get it to work.

2) As I stated above, my system has worked flawlessly since I built it... however, over the last month I've had a few occasions where I seem to "lose" functionality. I have a USB2.0 Hi-Speed hub and I have several devices connected directly to the back of my box using the USB ports there. I have a Griffith PowerMate which gave me the first indication of the problem. I have the PowerMate on "pulse" so the light is constantly pulsing. Well about a month ago I noticed that while using the PC, the pulsing would just stop as if it has lost control with Windows XP (and it had). However, when I go to restart my system.. I can't. It just beeps once, the power light is on and the hard drive light is on.. but I have nothing but either a blank screen, the monitor receives no signal at all, or it freezes at the initial BIOS screen. I have to repeatedly power down and restart to get it to work again (sometimes 4 or 5 times and I even try unplugging from the PS). When I do, it goes into BIOS setup saying that overclocking has failed. However, I've never had a game freeze up on me, My monitor shows very low temps (I've never seen higher than 40s and thats when pushing it at full load with BF1942 or NASCAR Racing 2003.), and everything else in Windows continues to function fine without a problem.

I then go in and check the Chipset setup, etc and pretty much leave it alone and just hit F10 to save and exit and the system boots right up with no problems at all. This happens once every couple of days.

Additionally, I noticed in setup that my Crucial PC3200 is set to 320, and there are no options for 333. Is this correct? I thought only PC2700 was forced into 320mhz on the setup? I'm using 250 FSB.

Would the PCI/AGP have anything to do with this if it's not locked at 33/66 ?? But why would it all of a sudden start doing this?

BTW.. I have the voltage set at "Auto" for the CPU and I have an Antec 412 PowerSupply.

Any help, guidance, and information would be greatly appreciate.

Sincerely,
Scott

 

[ronnn]

I have kingston hyper x 3500 256mb X 2. I am thinking about going up to a gig of ram. Asus says that you can not fill all four slots with this ram. Has anyone tried?

 

[s8nskeepr]

Hi there,

Have just bought P4P800 Deluxe. The manual says that the AGP works at 1.5v only but the specification on Asus website states that it is 0.8v/1.5v. Has anyone go this board working with a 0.8v card? I was planning to use a Sapphire Radeon 9600XT as this is 0.8v.

 

[scrotus]

Originally posted by: s8nskeepr
Hi there,

Have just bought P4P800 Deluxe. The manual says that the AGP works at 1.5v only but the specification on Asus website states that it is 0.8v/1.5v. Has anyone go this board working with a 0.8v card? I was planning to use a Sapphire Radeon 9600XT as this is 0.8v.

I just built a system last night with the P4P8x and put in a Sapphire 9600XT. Works great. Actually, manual says a lot of stuff that isn't correct. It doesn't say it supports 800 FSB until you get to under the HT section. On the main specs sheet in the manual, it only says 533/400. Same with the RAM. Only says in one spot it supports PC3200 whereas everywhere else it says PC2100/2700.


Ok, now i have a couple of questions. Has anyone had trouble using the BIOS autoupdate utility? I built a system last night and the utility worked, I think.

Specs:
P4P8x
P4 2.4C (running at 800FSB and HT enabled)
512 Kingston 3200 DDR (2x256 for dual channel)
WD 120Gig SATA HDD on primary master SATA channel'
Liteon 48X/16x CDRW/DVDRom combo
Sapphire 9600XT
XP Home SP1a and fully updated from the web

After I updated the BIOS through the ASUS utility, it asked if I wanted to reboot. I clicked yes. It just sat there for a long time. So, I did the old Start> Shutdown>Restart. Took a little bit but it finally did it. The bios I updated to was #14 from 1/16/04. I think there were 3 newer BIOS versions than what I had on the board stock.

So, it goes to reboot, does the IDE detection and whammo, Im hit with a Bad Checksum error. Hit F1 or F2 blah blah.

Hmm, so I try another reboot. No go. Same thing. I start to get worried at this point. Reboot again, try to get into bios. Keyboard won't let me in. I got scared at this point. System is 2 hours old and I already hosed it up. So, I go make a boot disk and put the ASUS DOS flash util onto a disk.

So, I Cleared the CMOS with the jumper to see if that would help. Didn't work. Kept resetting the machine. I get into BIOS thank god after switching to a PS2 keyboard. Change the boot sequence to Floppy/HDD/CDROM. Save and exit.

Weird, it's booting now to XP with no errors. Hmm, it didn't even check the floppy on boot. So I reboot again, still the floppy isnt recognized as a boot device.

Boot to XP, check the BIOS information and it says Ive got version 14.

Anyone had this happen? I think it's odd that even when set up to, it won't boot from floppy. I don't even get the light where it checks it. Also, anyone else have a similar problem with teh ASUS BIOS updater in Windows?

 

[Lioness]

"oops. I see the answer now." Sorry


s8nskeeper
"Have just bought P4P800 Deluxe. The manual says that the AGP works at 1.5v only but the specification on Asus website states that it is 0.8v/1.5v. Has anyone go this board working with a 0.8v card? I was planning to use a Sapphire Radeon 9600XT as this is 0.8v. "

Did you ever find the answer to your question? I planned on buying this mobo and already have the 9600XT. As you may already know the 9600XT runs 4x 1.5v and 8x at 0.8v. I believe the P4P800 deluxe supports 1.5v only on 8x. Does this mean we can't run this card at 8x on the P4P800 deluxe?

hopefully someone will answer this question.

 

[jogo]

I ordered the P4P800 Deluxe mobo.

I also ordered:
OCZ Enhanced Latency Series Platinum Edition 184 Pin 1GB(512MBx2) DDR PC-3200 - Retail

But I think I should have gotten:
OCZ Platinum Edition Dual Channel 184 Pin 1GB( 512MBx2) DDR PC-3200 - Retail

What are the consequenses?

thanks,
Jogo