*** Official ASUS P4P800/Deluxe (865PE) Thread ***

[spoondigity]

Also, I have my memory in the blue banks on the mortherboard. The manual for the motherboard indicates that the blue banks are the recommended banks for dual channel but for all I know my memory is still running non dual channel.

 

[Slammy1]

Download CPU-Z (the newer version). It's useful for stuff like that.

 

[Yourself]

Originally posted by: Slammy1
Well, after dealing with Asus tech support on a problem I could get no help from neither here nor on Asus boards, I'm planning on getting rid of this board and buying the Abit. I tried to get support by the net but their response was I have to call their tech support number which is only open during the hours I work and is a long distance phone call. DON'T BUY THIS BOARD. Get the Abit instead. So long as people continue to buy Asus in spite of their lack of tech support, they have no motivation to change. I've been solely an Asus owner for a number of years now, and I don't make this suggestion lightly.

Slammy-

I have had both boards and you are potentially trading old problems for new problems. The IS7 is by far the pickiest board when it comes to memory. I have tried the the following memory modules:

2 x 512 Crucial 3200
2 x 512 Twinmos 3200 w/BH5 chips
2 x 512 Mushkin 3500

None of those memory modules would boot using 3:2 above 240 FSB except the Twinmos and none would boot using 5:4. There is a 12 page thread over at abit-usa.com forums. Just a heads up...

Self

 

[Flakk]

I downloaded Via Raid 1.20 drivers from the ASUS site and noticed it had a 6410V120.rom file (in the /bios folder) that is about 55kb. I tried to flash it with AFUDOS.EXE but it said the size of the rom was invalid... so I guess AFUDOS only does full bios flashes. What do I use to flash this smaller .rom file to update my Via RAID bios to version 1.20?

I also tried using AsusUpdate to update the .rom file, but it just sits there. I have to then force-quit winflash.exe because it's using 99% cpu utilization, yet doing nothing.

 

[AlanShearer]

Usually when the BIOS corrupt message appears the bios is not corrupted. You are simply overclocking too far and need to shut down, restart (pressing Insert?) go into the BIOS and turn down the settings. Happened to me the other day. Unless you are flashing a BIOS or have a virus it's difficult to corrupt a BIOS.

 

[Flakk]

Originally posted by: spoondigity
Is there a location to see the status of your dual channel memory? I am trying to figure out if my memory is actually running in dual channel mode. I have 1 gig of corsair twinx 3700 and everything is up and running but someone else had mentioned on another site that they were looking for a message on the post (something like "Dual Channel, Linear, 400 Mhz") for confirmation but had not seen it. I disabled the asus splash screen on the post but I still don't see parts of the post because it goes by so fast. The most I see is something like "1024 ddr" with no mention of dual channel. Are their any other status pages that show dual channel is functional?

Thanks in advance...

You are running it in dual mode if it says Dual Channel, Linear, 400. I have a 533mhz bus processor with my memory running in dual 333 mode. For me it says: "Dual Channel, Linear, 333". That POST screen is the only place I could find that says anything relating to the status of your memory being in single or dual mode. It does go by a bit too quickly unfortunately. You should run some benchmarks (SiSoft Sandra's memory bandwidth test). That will give you a good idea of the actual bandwidth your memory is capable of. It will give you relative benchmarks of other similar setups to compare to. It should be fairly obvious if you're running in single or dual mode when you see your results compared to the others listed.

 

[AlanShearer]

Originally posted by: Intelman07
Will I have problems running this board with a P4 1.6 400mhz front side bus CPU with two sticks of DDR 2100 ram? (kingston)

No problems here running the deluxe model with a P4 2.0Ghz Northwood C-1 Stepping @2.9GHz Dual channel or 3.0Ghz Single channel@ Default VCore. (On the very first boot it didn't post - but a reboot and setting the BIOS options and it was fine)

Memory: Crucial 256Mb PC2100 CAS 2.5
Cube 256Mb PC2100 CAS 2

Interestingly when running at 533/333 It decides the Cube RAM is PC2700 CAS2.0 but the stick predates PC2700

 

[gramboh]

I think some BIOS versions only say Dual Channel Linear if you are not overclocking and using default settings. Get the newest cpuZ and click on the memory tab, it will tell you. If you are using both blue or both black DIMM slots you are in dual channel.

For PC3500, you will have to overclock to get DDR 434. The settings are this:

400 = 1:1
320 = 5:4
266 = 3:2

Say you set your front side bus to 217MHz, you will get the following memory speeds:

1:1 = 217 * 2 = 434 DDR
5:4 = 217 /5 * 4 * 2 = 347.5 DDR
3:2 = 217 /3 * 2 * 2 = 289.3 DDR

That is how the memory dividers work. Since this board does not have dividers below 1:1 you can't run the RAM faster than the CPU, so acheiving stock CPU speed with DDR 434 is not possible. However, I would be shocked to find any P4 "C" that will not OC to 217MHz FSB at 1:1.

l8r

 

[gramboh]

Oh and about the FDD boot problem, did you try exchanging or RMA'ing the board? Sounds like there was some kind of defect with the FDD connector or possibly a BIOS error?

 

[Slammy1]

Originally posted by: gramboh
Oh and about the FDD boot problem, did you try exchanging or RMA'ing the board? Sounds like there was some kind of defect with the FDD connector or possibly a BIOS error?

Yeah, after 2 months it looks like my only option. I'm thinking BIOS problem. It just sucks I can't get something authoratative to that effect. I got home early, tried to call, they said they were closed despite it being in their stated business hours in the same message. Maybe I should just reinstall my P3... Ya think my HyperX will work ? Whatever I do, I've come to the realization that customer service of SOME sort seem important for a technology company, and I'll never buy Asus again. Screw me once scenario.

 

[donfm]

Well I first installed this board and tried a bios update and it crashed my computer. Would not boot or anything. I remembered somebody saying to clear the CMOS first before starting the board up for the first time. Powering down, taking out the battery, setting the CMOS "clear" jumper and then restarting. The computer then posted fine and took the BIOS upgrade from the original v1005 it came with to V1007. Since then no probs and it's running like a champ...superfast. Couldn't be happier!! Everything exceeds Sisoft Sandra results for reference equipment except the WD Caviar 120 Gig HDD. It's the only weak link here and a little slower than the Sandra reference. Damn and I thought this was supposed to be a great drive with the 8MB cache.

Running 1 Gig Hyperex PC3500 at 2-2-3-6-4 no problems.

A note to Slammy, if you think customer service at the other major companies is any better think again. I think it's a little premature to slam all Asus products because of one bad board. MSI is just as bad I know from experience. I had a NEO-LSR board that sucked big time. I RMA'd it and got this board. Abit has their own problems as well. Just RMA the board and get over it.

 

[jaa1984]

1. i also have and all in wonder 9700 pro version xxx-xxxxx-10 and i have problem with the monitor.....it doesnt like to start up the first time i turn on the pc....but it will when i turn it off and turn it back on.

2. bios keeps telling me i failed to over clock when all the default settings are applied. to be more specific, it says: "failed to over-clock!! pres f1 to enter setup or press f2 to restore defaults and continue." keep in mind it tells me this even though it has default settings. everytime i start it up.....

3. pc doesnt restart, it'll shut down windows but will never restart. it just hangs with the monitor off. i believe this has to do with the 3d card also, but who knows.


any takers? help? etc.?

 

[b4u]

Originally posted by: donfm
Well I first installed this board and tried a bios update and it crashed my computer. Would not boot or anything. I remembered somebody saying to clear the CMOS first before starting the board up for the first time. Powering down, taking out the battery, setting the CMOS "clear" jumper and then restarting. The computer then posted fine and took the BIOS upgrade from the original v1005 it came with to V1007. Since then no probs and it's running like a champ...superfast. Couldn't be happier!!

I'm waiting for my P4P800 Deluxe to arrive, can anyone tell me if I have to do such a thing? And Why?

(I thought the "problem" related to this solution should be solved by now)

Originally posted by: donfm
Running 1 Gig Hyperex PC3500 at 2-2-3-6-4 no problems.

Did you bought the 2x512Mb kit from Kingston? Is it the model #KHX3500K2/1G?


Thanks

 

[Slammy1]

Originally posted by: jaa1984
1. i also have and all in wonder 9700 pro version xxx-xxxxx-10 and i have problem with the monitor.....it doesnt like to start up the first time i turn on the pc....but it will when i turn it off and turn it back on.

2. bios keeps telling me i failed to over clock when all the default settings are applied. to be more specific, it says: "failed to over-clock!! pres f1 to enter setup or press f2 to restore defaults and continue." keep in mind it tells me this even though it has default settings. everytime i start it up.....

3. pc doesnt restart, it'll shut down windows but will never restart. it just hangs with the monitor off. i believe this has to do with the 3d card also, but who knows.


any takers? help? etc.?

I have a -10 series AIW also. A few things to try. Set Performance mode to standard and turn off memory enhancement. PAT causes some funny, unexpected results. Make sure you have the secondary power connected on the AIW. Try a different PNP setting, I currently run PNP OS, but I tried the alternative (that didn't work for me, but worth a try). Finally, try bumping VDIMM to 1.75V. It actually sounds like your problem is related to memory settings rather than video.

 

[spoondigity]

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------You are running it in dual mode if it says Dual Channel, Linear, 400. I have a 533mhz bus processor with my memory running in dual 333 mode. For me it says: "Dual Channel, Linear, 333". That POST screen is the only place I could find that says anything relating to the status of your memory being in single or dual mode. It does go by a bit too quickly unfortunately. You should run some benchmarks (SiSoft Sandra's memory bandwidth test). That will give you a good idea of the actual bandwidth your memory is capable of. It will give you relative benchmarks of other similar setups to compare to. It should be fairly obvious if you're running in single or dual mode when you see your results compared to the others listed.
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Thanks for the replies everyone. I downloaded a copy of cpu-z. Before I got around to using it I hit f5 to reset my bios defaults. For some reason this caused the dual channel message to come up and I have had it ever since, even after altering my bios settings manually again.

Regarding the initial startup of the system. I did not take out the battery to reset my bios when I got my board. I just went into my bios and made sure everything was set as standard as possible and that nothing was overclocked, set for turbo, or set for auto if there was a standard option. Then I went from 1005 to 1006, 1007, 1008 bios versions. Sometimes when I did a flash and restarted it would give a bad check sum or overclock failed. If I got the bad check sum I would just cold boot a couple of times and it would come back up correctly. If I got the overclock failed, it generally meant the the new flash had reverted some bios settings to something that wouldn't work on first boot (like setting a standard back to auto or turbo...). So I would just go back into the bios and reset things back to standard. This always worked for me. Once you get things up and going and have flashed your bios, it seems to take bios changes better and only gives overclock failed if you really push something out of whack by overclocking too far.

 

[Flakk]

How do i flash this smaller .rom file??

I downloaded Via Raid 1.20 drivers from the ASUS site and noticed it had a 6410V120.rom file (in the /bios folder) that is about 55kb in size. I tried to flash it with AFUDOS.EXE but it said the size of the rom was invalid... so I guess AFUDOS only does full bios flashes. What do I use to flash this smaller .rom file to update my Via RAID bios to version 1.20?

I also tried using AsusUpdate to update the .rom file, but it just sits there. I have to then force-quit winflash.exe because it's using 99% cpu utilization, yet doing nothing.

 

[dartworth]

I was going to use 2 Raptors in a RAID 0 setup for my boot disk with this board. How do you install XP on it?

A friend of mine tried this, and when he went to install XP it did not see any HD to install the OS on. He created an array and all that, but the OS would not install on it.

 

[hernia1]

I'm having a great time with this board, running the P4C 2.4 GHz Processor with Crucial RAM and an AGP ASUS V9560 Video Suite Graphics Card with nVidia's FX5600 Chipset. I have been dealing with two problems that need more attention from ASUS. I flashed the Bios with 1.0.0.8 revision and lost the ability to use UDMA Mode 5 on my WD Drive. Benchmarks are saying 30 MB/s transfer and the bios only allows UDMA-2 as the highest option and therefore went from 100 MHz to ATA/33. Tech Support says they will have the fix at the end of the month. What! Issue #2 is the onboard sound. The first two channels (Main Channels) don't work at all. A friend with the same board has the same problem. I installed a Sound Blaster Live! 5.1, tired of dealing with it. Other than that, it's a stable, solid board but I may be buying an Ultra ATA/133 PCI Card to get the drive where it should be.

Anybody have similar problems?

 

[LastRide]

Bios 1009.02 is out. Link

 

[Flakk]

Originally posted by: jfano
I was going to use 2 Raptors in a RAID 0 setup for my boot disk with this board. How do you install XP on it?

A friend of mine tried this, and when he went to install XP it did not see any HD to install the OS on. He created an array and all that, but the OS would not install on it.

You will need the Via RAID drivers for xp on a disk.

Press F6 at the beginning of the windows xp install and it will prompt you for a disk later on. Put it in and it will use the raid drivers, and you will be able to use the drive.

I'm running two Maxtor 15gb, 7200rpm drives in RAID-0 and it's working beautifully.


Now if i could only figure out how to update the raid bios like in my last post... it's just a 50kb file ... ?

 

[melvincowznoski]

This is a basic question. I have p4p800 deluxe. Installing a p4 2.4c. CPU goes in fine. But the the heatsink and fan are another issue. After placing the retention clips in the retention module and locking down the clips, it is so tight that the heatsink presses on the cpu so much that the back of the board bulges out. Took it apart, and the cpu is fine, no cracks, but it doens't seem right? Anyone had this problem? Any workarounds, like removing the 4 white feet in the corners of the retention module? Thanks! This is the first time i've put a system together, so go easy on me.

I posted this elsewhere before I realized this was a thread.

 

[LastRide]

Thats normal the bulging.I know it looks a little too much but some heatsinks bulge more than others and its making good contact.

Originally posted by: melvincowznoski
This is a basic question. I have p4p800 deluxe. Installing a p4 2.4c. CPU goes in fine. But the the heatsink and fan are another issue. After placing the retention clips in the retention module and locking down the clips, it is so tight that the heatsink presses on the cpu so much that the back of the board bulges out. Took it apart, and the cpu is fine, no cracks, but it doens't seem right? Anyone had this problem? Any workarounds, like removing the 4 white feet in the corners of the retention module? Thanks! This is the first time i've put a system together, so go easy on me.

I posted this elsewhere before I realized this was a thread.

 

[Fallengod]

Do where are these so called intel inf drivers you need? Ive heard you need them to run this board correctly.

 

[Budman]

Originally posted by: modempower
Do where are these so called intel inf drivers you need? Ive heard you need them to run this board correctly.

On your Asus cd,put cd in drive & install them.

 

[omyek]

i just installed windows xp sp1 and i'm still not able to get windows to recognize a "universal serial bux (usb) controller"

it's driving me insane to see the little yellow exclamation point in device manager even though my usb trackball is working fine. any ideas? i've installed the lastest intel inf's and have enabled usb 2.0 in my bios, but still no go. the one thread i found in these forums suggested unplugging my devices and replugging them in, but that didn't seem to work.

and on a side note, why do i have a 1394 device listed under 'network adapters"