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mathew7

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May 9, 2006
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Originally posted by: Soul Colossus
For the P5B non-Deluxe, I found that the CD ASUS included -does not- have the ICH8 AHCI drivers (the vanilla uses ICH8, not ICH8R). I believe they're the ICH8R drivers only and it mislabels them as ICH8. When you do the F6 method above with the supposedly ICH8 drivers off of ASUS' CD, the drivers are installed fine but when you boot into Windows it ****** up as though you didn't have the drivers at all. What I ended up doing was booting up in IDE mode on the Intel SATA controller and installing the drivers for the JMicron controller (while it's enabled in AHCI mode in the CMOS). I then shut down, connect my HDD to the JMicron controller and VOILA I'm booting up in AHCI mode and SATA performance is finally normal.

I left the Intel SATA controller enabled in AHCI mode and when I checked it out in Device Manager, it only showed up as Unknown PCI Device. I tried manually installing a driver for it off of the CD, but absolutely no drivers on the disc matched the controller. It looks like ASUS never included the correct driver for Intel's ICH8 SATA controller and I couldn't find it on either ASUS' or Intel's sites. To this day it's still sitting there labeled as a PCI Device with no driver whatsoever. P5B vanilla users should just go with the JMicron controller, it works fine.

I also wanted to install windows on ICH8 in AHCI. My last try (just finished it) was to install XP on my HDD (160G) on JMicron controller in IDE mode, just to see what Intel's SATA device looks like in AHCI. It seems to be:
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2824&SUBSYS_81EC1043&REV_02
with one of the hardware ids PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2824&CC_0106.
The closest I can see on intel's drivers is
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2821&CC_0106 for ICH8R in AHCI mode
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2822&CC_0104 for ICH8R in RAID mode.
So I copied+modified the config from ICH8R in AHCI mode to a new entry for my ID, and now I have access to the HDD (80G one) connected to it. However, I still have to try the F6-mode. The Windows install was necessary to see the "CC_" part, because unknown_devices in BartPE does not give me more info, just the main ID.
The driver works, but I don't know if the chipset is too new (doubt it) or intel just wanted it crippled.
On MBs manual I recall seeing to enable AHCI only for Vista, but that's not good for me, because the current kernel in gentoo detects my HDDs only in AHCI mode while Windows in IDE mode.
 

umax7

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I'm having trouble getting my front audio mic port to work, i get sound but no mic input, I changed it in the bios to ac97 cause my case just has the standard intel front audio plug. When I go to control panel to change the voice input to the ac97 from HD audio it doesnt give me the choice to do so like on my Asus P5LD2 board. Any ideas? Oh BTW turning off the bass and turning down the wave helped the popping and cracking but its still there.
 

imported_Someone2

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Oct 3, 2006
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Btw, how picky Asus P5B is with memory? I hear DS3 doesn't like OCZ memory, but how they work with P5B? If OCZ doesn't work reliably, will this memory work:

http://www.mindfactory.de/cgi-bin/MindS...6273fc0a801ed067b/Product/View/0019776

The site says it is 4,0-3-4-8 @ 1,9V.. I wonder if it really is that good as it is cheaper than OCZ and has a lot better timings..

And will the Jmicron controller co-operate properly, if I use my Promise FastTrak100 PCI RAID card?

 

BuddyHolly

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OK, I am trying to decide if I have a screwy board and should RMA it. The hightest stable FSB I can run in 355. I have tried the following...
It is stable at 8x355=2840, so I know the processor is good up to there.
I am running Corsair XMS 6400 (2x512) that I have tested up to 830 with no problems.
Dram Frequency 1:1
PCI Express 100
PCI Clock 33.3
Spread Spectrum Disabled
Memory Voltage 2.1
CPU Core voltage 1.5~1.525
FSB Termination Voltage every setting from half way to max
NB Voltage tried em all, no real change
SB Voltage tried em all, no real change
ICH Chipset Voltage yup, once again, tried all combinations

Dropped the multiplier to 6x375 and I get nothing and have to restart. I know the processor will run this speed and it is way under spec for the ram.

Tried the magic 401fsb also. 6x401 gives me nothing but a chance to restart and "overclock failed" message.

All this is running on high end watercooling. My CPU temp in the bios is usually showing around 100F, which seems awful low.

I also connected my second half of my ATX connector on the motherboard by using a line off my Antec SP500 power supply. It is modular so I reconfigured my spare second PCI express video card power cord to work in the extra slots since my almost new power supply lacked an eight plug connector.

So please tell me I am missing something simple. I am real disappointed in this board so far, and I am going to RMA it if I can't figure something out.

Thanks, any suggestions welcome!
 

cyberphreax

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Oct 4, 2006
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I RMA'd my board to ASUS for a bios update last week and they sent it back with 0211 on it and my OCZ didn't work. I picked up a stick of the Kingston KVR800D2N5 and got the system to post, updated the bios to 0509 and now my OCZ gold works just fine. Just find anyone with a stick of ram on the QVL in the manual, use it to update the BIOS and the OCZ will work.
 

FireChicken

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Anybody hear of a P5B-E PLUS. ?I saw this in the ASUS bios download list but cant find any info on it
 

cmdrdredd

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Originally posted by: BuddyHolly
I also connected my second half of my ATX connector on the motherboard by using a line off my Antec SP500 power supply. It is modular so I reconfigured my spare second PCI express video card power cord to work in the extra slots since my almost new power supply lacked an eight plug connector.

Sounds bad...rigging a PSU is usually bad news
 

BuddyHolly

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Rigging a power supply bad news? Naaaa....suprisingly easy really. I cut up an old 20pin atx connector because I noticed it was keyed to fit the extra four pins that are usually covered up with the little gray cap. I then extraced four of the pins from my second PCI Express power cord and slipped them into my newly minted plug. This power supply is modular, so you plug or unplug what you want. Therefore my connection has a dedicated line just for the extra four pin plug. I checked the voltage and plugged it up. No problem to report. Newegg makes an adapter, but that just split the current four pin plug and does not provide the extra amps of my solution. I am going to order one of the adapters and wire it in using the two dedicated lines for each half so I will a have a true 8 pin plug.
Well, it didn't help anyway, so it was an hour wasted.

I did have some success with the board since then. I swapped in a Geforce 7600 card and still the same thing. Dropped the card to the second PCI express slot and danged if it didn't boot. Tested it all the way up to 6x450 and it ran perfectly. Then I noticed I had changed the DRAM frequency from 1:1 to auto. No idea when. As soon as I moved it to 1:1 I could no longer boot. Moved it back to auto and it works fine. Booted it up as 8x420 and it ran perfect for hours of gaming and encoding movies, then it locked up while installing the Asus motherboard monitor and would never reboot at the speed again. Dropped it back to 6x450 and runs perfect....

So, I kinda suspect the ram may be a bit screwey and maybe I am hitting a wall with the processor. One thing I have not tried is lowering the vcore voltage when at 8x420. I always run a lot of voltage with every processor I overclock, but maybe this one doesn't like it. I have tried it as high as 1.575 and it does not help.
Ideas?
 

Jordao

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Oct 5, 2006
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Hi all. I´ve got a problem with this board...

I got a brand new mobo, a conroe 6400, 2GB GSkill 6400 and a X1900 AIW. Connected all the devices (plus 4 SATA 80GB and a Audigy2 Platinum) and instaled a fresh Windows XP Pro + SP2.

The system turned on, I installed the motherboard drivers and used the ASUS UPDATE to update the BIOS. The BIOS the program selected was version 711. I downloaded it, the program flashed the BIOS and restarted.

When the system restarted, the blue logo became red, the cpu fan began to spin but that is all that happened. No bip, no video, nothing else...

I tryed to boot with the support CD to restart the original BIOS but again I get nothing: no bip, no video, just the mobo led and the cpu fan...

Any ideas on what to do to get my system on again?

Thanks
 

cmdrdredd

Lifer
Dec 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: BuddyHolly
Rigging a power supply bad news? Naaaa....suprisingly easy really. I cut up an old 20pin atx connector because I noticed it was keyed to fit the extra four pins that are usually covered up with the little gray cap. I then extraced four of the pins from my second PCI Express power cord and slipped them into my newly minted plug. This power supply is modular, so you plug or unplug what you want. Therefore my connection has a dedicated line just for the extra four pin plug. I checked the voltage and plugged it up. No problem to report. Newegg makes an adapter, but that just split the current four pin plug and does not provide the extra amps of my solution. I am going to order one of the adapters and wire it in using the two dedicated lines for each half so I will a have a true 8 pin plug.
Well, it didn't help anyway, so it was an hour wasted.

I did have some success with the board since then. I swapped in a Geforce 7600 card and still the same thing. Dropped the card to the second PCI express slot and danged if it didn't boot. Tested it all the way up to 6x450 and it ran perfectly. Then I noticed I had changed the DRAM frequency from 1:1 to auto. No idea when. As soon as I moved it to 1:1 I could no longer boot. Moved it back to auto and it works fine. Booted it up as 8x420 and it ran perfect for hours of gaming and encoding movies, then it locked up while installing the Asus motherboard monitor and would never reboot at the speed again. Dropped it back to 6x450 and runs perfect....

So, I kinda suspect the ram may be a bit screwey and maybe I am hitting a wall with the processor. One thing I have not tried is lowering the vcore voltage when at 8x420. I always run a lot of voltage with every processor I overclock, but maybe this one doesn't like it. I have tried it as high as 1.575 and it does not help.
Ideas?


Fine if you're not going to actually use things properly and want to rig everything and cut wires all over then don't expect it to be stable ok?
 

Fishy007

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Sep 11, 2006
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Yeah. It seems a bit screwy with my system. Firstly I had to open the case and clear the CMOS after I flashed in order to get the system to boot. Then Windows wouldn't boot properly. It turns out that I had to change all the memory settings in the BIOS back to "Auto" for it to boot. Since I was working just fine with manual settings before 0711, I have to assume the BIOS did something odd.

Now since I am working with 2 different brands of 533mhz ram, I'm willing to say it might be my RAM at fault...but everything worked fine up until this bios release.

Edit: I removed my Kingston RAM and things seem to be working again. I tried booting with Kingston only and got crashes. I'll do a memtest with the Kingston later tonight. I have a feeling that this bios release has screwed up the compatibility yet again.
 

cmdrdredd

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Dec 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: Fishy007
Yeah. It seems a bit screwy with my system. Firstly I had to open the case and clear the CMOS after I flashed in order to get the system to boot. Then Windows wouldn't boot properly. It turns out that I had to change all the memory settings in the BIOS back to "Auto" for it to boot. Since I was working just fine with manual settings before 0711, I have to assume the BIOS did something odd.

Now since I am working with 2 different brands of 533mhz ram, I'm willing to say it might be my RAM at fault...but everything worked fine up until this bios release.

Edit: I removed my Kingston RAM and things seem to be working again. I tried booting with Kingston only and got crashes. I'll do a memtest with the Kingston later tonight. I have a feeling that this bios release has screwed up the compatibility yet again.


It changed the way it works with memory, and mixing brands is not recommended anyhow. It basically fixed problems with some OCZ and other brands just totally not working.
 

Fishy007

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Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
It changed the way it works with memory, and mixing brands is not recommended anyhow. It basically fixed problems with some OCZ and other brands just totally not working.

Well the point is I was having zero problems before this release. Reccommended or not, it worked wonderfully with every previous release. I'll probably just go back to the previous release.

Oh and the other point is that the Kingston ram (by itself) did not work at all.
 

cmdrdredd

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Dec 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: Fishy007
Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
It changed the way it works with memory, and mixing brands is not recommended anyhow. It basically fixed problems with some OCZ and other brands just totally not working.

Well the point is I was having zero problems before this release. Reccommended or not, it worked wonderfully with every previous release. I'll probably just go back to the previous release.

Oh and the other point is that the Kingston ram (by itself) did not work at all.


Probably bad memory that only now shows up because of the fixed BIOS. Up to you if you wanna use an old version.
 

FCBarca

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Sep 8, 2006
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So I powered up and got the Asus screen temporarily and then got an error that looked like this.

New CPU Installed.

Please enter Setup to configure your system.

Chassis Intruded!

Fatal Error...System Halted.


What's going on?
 

FCBarca

Junior Member
Sep 8, 2006
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Someone told me on another board that I have the chassis intrusion jumper set to charge and to set it to clear and leave it there...Yet, I don't know what that means really.

In the Asus Manual...Pg 32 refers to the Chassis Intrusion Connector with a jumper set to default towards the right two pins...Pg 22 refers to the Jumper right near the Chassis Intrusion Connector with settings 1, 2 and 3...Also, it refers to clearing the CLRTC by making a manuever but not with the Chassis Intrusion Connector.

So, do I clear the CLRTC first and then do something with the jumper that is already set to default for the Chassis Intrusion Connector?...Or does it have nothing to do with the CLRTC?
 

markiehill

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Oct 6, 2006
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i have a P5B-VM and 4GB of memory .....

I am not trying to overclock just get the thing to run.

I have contacted ASUS by email no reply, by phone only to be told that the board cannot take 4 x 1GB sticks even though the manual says it can work with up to 8GB.

Corsair have been really helpful, see this thread (you need to read the whole thread and ignore the guy who hijacked it in the middle ) ...

http://www.houseofhelp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=263069#post263069

No joy as of yet.

The machine works perfectly with 2GB , as soon as i add the extra 2 sticks it becomes unstable, what do i mean ? Well i can boot once and i get a perfect memtest , boot again and i get failing addresses in the 6GB range, boot again and its working again.

Hardware is

Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 775, 2.4 GHz
4Gb (4X1Gb) Corsair TwinX XMS2, DDR
ASUS P5B-VM i965, S775, PCI-E (x16)

Memory is

CM2X1024-6400 5-5-5-12 800 Mhz

XMS6405v5.1

I have manually set all the memory stuff, i have increased the memory voltage to 1.95, i have replaced the power supply.

Any help would be appreciated as ASUS are pretty poor with their support.

Mark
 

qualiarunner

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Oct 6, 2006
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I got a problem that's show-stopper for now. I installed XPpro on this board along with 6400 / 2x1GB Geil 667 / 2xWD 250GB SATA-0 / 7900GT, during install pressing F6 nicely, selecting SATA RAID driver, enabling RAID in BIOS, no problem here, activating system, patching it up, latest BIOS for mobo, latest drivers for yukon marvell, and all to to find web browsing working just fine, however each and every time I try to download any larger file (like nvidia drivers) it stops downloading somewhere in between. Dialog with file download is still there, but no progress. I tried different files, different locations, each time same thing happens. I've got few others PCs at my house and I can download files just fine on them, so certainly not a network problem.

I have little idea about what to do next? Any advice perhaps, please...?
 

Caliginosity

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Sep 15, 2006
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Well, I disappeared for a little while and gave the new RC1 Vista build a try. Aside from some program compatibility issues, it ran like a dream (much better than XP, surprisingly enough).

Anyhow, to the meat of the topic. I reinstalled Windows XP on my system, did the F6 deal and placed in a floppy with my ACHI files so they would load up in XP. Went through the whole installation, then rebooted and switched my SATA configuration to ACHI. Rebooted again, began to log into windows (up to the boot screen), then got a bluescreen error message and immediately rebooted. This repeated until I manually changed my SATA configuration in the bios once again to IDE.

Now, I'm not exactly sure why the drivers didn't load from my floppy, but they are no where to be seen in my XP installation (did the windows search as well as tearing through my System32 folder manually for the iastor.sys file that should have been placed in there to allow ACHI configuration to work - but no luck). The only change that I did between Vista and reinstalling XP was to update to the new 711 bios (note that I didn't clear CMOS at first. I didn't seem to need to as unplugging the power cable and replugging it back in seemed to get my system to boot up again with the new 711 bios. However, after reinstalling XP I noticed on the ASUS site that it recommended clearing CMOS after installing the latest bios update, so I just now cleared CMOS, but I'm not sure if I should reinstall XP and hope that it will fix my problem with not being able to install the ACHI drivers from my floppy or not).

Any advice would be great, though I'm crossing my fingers that I don't have to reinstall XP again (did it like 4 times in a row trying to get those drivers to take).

[edit] Alright, it looks like I am going to have to reformat after all. I just looked up my chipset information with CPU-Z and it's listed as only ICH8 (which is a non-deluxe chipset) as opposed to ICH8R which is the deluxe chipset. That is the reason the driver disk isn't working in XP, because the operating system doesn't recognize that I have the correct chipset to take advantage of the ACHI configuration. Hopefully when I cleared the CMOS, it fixed the chipset recognition as well.
 

cmdrdredd

Lifer
Dec 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: Caliginosity
Well, I disappeared for a little while and gave the new RC1 Vista build a try. Aside from some program compatibility issues, it ran like a dream (much better than XP, surprisingly enough).

Anyhow, to the meat of the topic. I reinstalled Windows XP on my system, did the F6 deal and placed in a floppy with my ACHI files so they would load up in XP. Went through the whole installation, then rebooted and switched my SATA configuration to ACHI. Rebooted again, began to log into windows (up to the boot screen), then got a bluescreen error message and immediately rebooted. This repeated until I manually changed my SATA configuration in the bios once again to IDE.

Now, I'm not exactly sure why the drivers didn't load from my floppy, but they are no where to be seen in my XP installation (did the windows search as well as tearing through my System32 folder manually for the iastor.sys file that should have been placed in there to allow ACHI configuration to work - but no luck). The only change that I did between Vista and reinstalling XP was to update to the new 711 bios (note that I didn't clear CMOS at first. I didn't seem to need to as unplugging the power cable and replugging it back in seemed to get my system to boot up again with the new 711 bios. However, after reinstalling XP I noticed on the ASUS site that it recommended clearing CMOS after installing the latest bios update, so I just now cleared CMOS, but I'm not sure if I should reinstall XP and hope that it will fix my problem with not being able to install the ACHI drivers from my floppy or not).

Any advice would be great, though I'm crossing my fingers that I don't have to reinstall XP again (did it like 4 times in a row trying to get those drivers to take).

[edit] Alright, it looks like I am going to have to reformat after all. I just looked up my chipset information with CPU-Z and it's listed as only ICH8 (which is a non-deluxe chipset) as opposed to ICH8R which is the deluxe chipset. That is the reason the driver disk isn't working in XP, because the operating system doesn't recognize that I have the correct chipset to take advantage of the ACHI configuration. Hopefully when I cleared the CMOS, it fixed the chipset recognition as well.


You should have your SATA config setup as AHCI before you start up from the winXP disk. If you do Raid you have to setup the RAID before you install the drivers. Windows can only put in the drivers for devices it sees. It won't load them properly otherwise.
 
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