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hrsetrdr

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Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
As another stated earlier, make sure you have the timings and vooltage set to its standard spec. Make sure you have the latest BIOS too. That's all I can tell ya

I had tried that eariler; last night I reinstalled the dimms in question and again set all the timings and voltages to spec, but again had no luck booting into the o/s.

I placed a query with Asus customer service detailing the problem, and what I've done to resolve it, and am awaiting their response.
 

Fishy007

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Originally posted by: Dexion
Cool Thanks! You might want to edit your sig, it says CNPS 6600

WHoops. Sorry about that. That's what happens when you live in the passt I used to have a 6600, but the 9500 give me a 5 degree (celsius) drop in temps.

 

alpharythms

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Sep 20, 2006
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I've had this board for a few days now and everything has been running great.

I have an Asus AX550 as my graphic card. I purchased a second Asus AX550 to put in the second PCI-16 slot so I can drive 3 (eventually 4) monitors from my computer.

Once I did window will not finish booting. It begins by showing the bios and window loading screen on both monitors connected to the primary video card... it then locks up. I hit reset and now windows loads on the monitor connected to secondary card. Window loads fine but I am only get the single monitor connected to the second card.

Checking under the device manager I see both card listed and it doesn't show any conflicts or warnings... that I'm aware of.

Is there anything special I need to do to get both cards to work? Bios change or anything?

I'm running bios version 0507
E6600 with muliplier at 8 and FSB at 400Mhz
2 GB of G-Skill Ram running 1:1

Any ideas I can try?

Thanks for your help!
Adam

 

NoStateofMind

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Originally posted by: hrsetrdr
Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
As another stated earlier, make sure you have the timings and vooltage set to its standard spec. Make sure you have the latest BIOS too. That's all I can tell ya

I had tried that eariler; last night I reinstalled the dimms in question and again set all the timings and voltages to spec, but again had no luck booting into the o/s.

I placed a query with Asus customer service detailing the problem, and what I've done to resolve it, and am awaiting their response.


Use the bare minimum, did you try it with only one stick of RAM? Tell us what your system specs are and what you have tried.
 

darkryft

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Sep 20, 2006
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Ok, I'm hoping the community might be able to help me here:

Just built the following system:

Core 2 Duo E6700 Retail
Corsair XMS2 PC-8500 2GB
Asus P5B Deluxe Wi-Fi AP Bios Verison 0614
SoundBlaster X-Fi Fata1ty
2x Western Digital 150GB Raptors in RAID 0 on ICH8R controller
Plextor PA-716A DVD-Writer on JMicro ATA controller
ATI Radeon x1900 XTX
Windows XP x64 Edition

If I run everything on default and set the memory to the DDR-1067Mhz setting, no problems, perfectly stable. If I change the memory voltage, processor voltage, FSB voltage...no problem.

If I tweak the FSB Frequency or the Multiplier even a single notch, Windows blows up in a blue screen:

MACHINE_CHECK_EXCEPTION

Can't get past this to save my life. Windows appears to be forcing me to lock-in the 266Mhz FSB. Any recommended settings to try? I'd really love to try and overclock this thing.
 

MendoPaul

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Sep 16, 2006
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I think you'll find fineprint in the manual that says to take off the cap and use all 8 pins. That's what I did in mine.
 

darkryft

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Just tried some additional settings and voltages, using this build:


Core 2 Duo E6700 Retail
Corsair XMS2 PC-8500 2GB
Asus P5B Deluxe Wi-Fi AP Bios Verison 0614
SoundBlaster X-Fi Fata1ty
2x Western Digital 150GB Raptors in RAID 0 on ICH8R controller
Plextor PA-716A DVD-Writer on JMicro ATA controller
ATI Radeon x1900 XTX
Windows XP x64 Edition

I still cannot pass this damn BSOD whenever I so much a tweak the FSB a single Mhz:

MACHINE_CHECK_EXCEPTION


Does anyone....anyone have an idea why the FSB is causing Windows to blow up?
 

MendoPaul

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Sep 16, 2006
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It has nothing to do with it. If you'll read here you'll find many different issues presented as the days go by.

This pertained to a much earlier post about the power supply connection.
 

Caliginosity

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Sep 15, 2006
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Alright, got a new question to add to the bunch.

I'm running on the ASUS P5B Deluxe (no WiFi) with a 74GB WD Raptor (16 MB Cache). Now, when setting it up in the BIOS, it gives me the option to only go up to UDMA - 5, however using SIW - http://www.gtopala.com/siw_download.html to analyse my system, it stated that I should be able to use UDMA - 6.

System Info - Storage Devices

Type: Fixed hard disk media
Vendor: Western Digital
Model: WDC WD740ADFD-00NLR1
Disk Family: SATA 1.0
Interface: IDE SATA
Revision: 20.07P20
Size: 74 GBytes
Removable: No
Location: Primary Controller - Master drive
Controller Buffer Size on Drive: 16 MBytes
Capabilities: DMA, LBA, IORDY_Disable, IORDY
PIO Mode Support: 0 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4
DMA SW Mode Support: Not Supported
DMA MW Mode Support: 0 - 1 - 2
UDMA Mode Support: 0 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 (ATA/66) - 5 (ATA/100) - 6 (ATA/133)
Current UDMA mode: 5(ATA-100)
Support NCQ: Yes
Support IFPWRMNGTRCV: Yes
Temperature: 33 ºC (91 ºF)
Rotational Speed: 5400 RPM (Nominal)
SMART Support: Yes

However, I am not sure why it's being detected as an IDE device or running at such a low rotational speed... It's an SATA Harddrive that should be running at 10,000 RPM, not 5400 RPM... In the BIOS, it's listed as an SATA device, however I also noted that the only option for SATA device recognition is for RAID, IDE, and AHCI - which doesn't seem to apply to me. My HDD SATA cable is plugged into the SATA 1 (red) port. Should it be plugged into the JMB363 Serial ATA RAID connector even though I only have the one hard drive? I wouldn't think so, but you never know.

Any advice or confirmation that it should be running as an IDE device and the maximum UDMA is only 5 would be welcome.
 

Fishy007

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Originally posted by: Caliginosity
Alright, got a new question to add to the bunch.

I'm running on the ASUS P5B Deluxe (no WiFi) with a 74GB WD Raptor (16 MB Cache). Now, when setting it up in the BIOS, it gives me the option to only go up to UDMA - 5, however using SIW - http://www.gtopala.com/siw_download.html to analyse my system, it stated that I should be able to use UDMA - 6.

System Info - Storage Devices

Type: Fixed hard disk media
Vendor: Western Digital
Model: WDC WD740ADFD-00NLR1
Disk Family: SATA 1.0
Interface: IDE SATA
Revision: 20.07P20
Size: 74 GBytes
Removable: No
Location: Primary Controller - Master drive
Controller Buffer Size on Drive: 16 MBytes
Capabilities: DMA, LBA, IORDY_Disable, IORDY
PIO Mode Support: 0 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4
DMA SW Mode Support: Not Supported
DMA MW Mode Support: 0 - 1 - 2
UDMA Mode Support: 0 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 (ATA/66) - 5 (ATA/100) - 6 (ATA/133)
Current UDMA mode: 5(ATA-100)
Support NCQ: Yes
Support IFPWRMNGTRCV: Yes
Temperature: 33 ºC (91 ºF)
Rotational Speed: 5400 RPM (Nominal)
SMART Support: Yes

However, I am not sure why it's being detected as an IDE device or running at such a low rotational speed... It's an SATA Harddrive that should be running at 10,000 RPM, not 5400 RPM... In the BIOS, it's listed as an SATA device, however I also noted that the only option for SATA device recognition is for RAID, IDE, and AHCI - which doesn't seem to apply to me. My HDD SATA cable is plugged into the SATA 1 (red) port. Should it be plugged into the JMB363 Serial ATA RAID connector even though I only have the one hard drive? I wouldn't think so, but you never know.

Any advice or confirmation that it should be running as an IDE device and the maximum UDMA is only 5 would be welcome.



Hmm...I don't know the answer to your question, but it does raise a few of my own. I've got a 36GB raptor and I've noticed that the performance of my system isn't that great. Most issues I have are with drive access (WoW doesn't load as quickly as it did with my Pentium 4 640 + MSI mobo; Windows takes a bit longer to boot; etc). I'm wondering if for some reason the rotational speed of the drive has been lowered. I will check my raptor when I go home. Thanks for the post! Even if you don't get a definitive answer, your question has helped me troubleshoot

 

Caliginosity

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Sep 15, 2006
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Yeah, the extended boot time into windows is what prompted me to look into it in the first place. After reading the P5B Deluxe users manual that came with the motherboard, I discovered (on page 4-14 under the IDE configuration section) that the highest UDMA setting was indeed 5 and not 6. Also messed around by plugging my SATA cable into the JMB363 Serial ATA RAID connector just to see what would happen. Tested in all three available SATA settings (RAID, IDE and AHCI) and all three settings in the JMB363 slot were worse than staying in the SATA 1 (red) port. I ran HDD tests with HD Tach - http://www.simplisoftware.com/Public/index.php?request=HdTach to verify the data transfer loss, and while at sometimes it was only a loss of 6 or so points, I also lost the SMART functioning as well as the ability to view/change my Harddrive settings in the BIOS, where as when I was plugged into the SATA 1 port, I could enable SMART support and access my HDD in the Main BIOS menu under Sata 1.

So, the long and short of it is, unless you have a special RAID configuration, I don't recommend using the JMB363 slot with an SATA device. Just stick with the SATA 1 (red) port. It still doesn't answer why I have lower rotational speed, however when I test the harddrive with HD Tach, my readings are above UDMA - 6 (133), at about 135 (SATA is 150), dispite the fact that in the BIOS it's highest listing is UDMA - 5 (100).

It also doesn't answer the question of why my rotational speed is so low, but then again it may just also be a flaw with SIW because the 16 MB Raptor 74 is relatively new... I'm unsure as to why my windows start time is as long as it is (it's about a minute from a cold boot until I get to a fully functioning desktop) even though I've gone through and minimized all of my startup programs to only those that are essential and trimmed the fat from my services that run automatically on startup. Well, perhaps a new BIOS will hold the answer there...

If you come across any gems of information in your trouble shooting, Fishy007, keep us posted.
 

Fishy007

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Cal, can you do me a favour and check your CPU cache with SIW? Mine will not read the 4mb of cache, but CPU-Z does

Property Value
Number of CPU(s) One Physical Processor / 2 Cores / 2 Logical Processors / 64 bits
Vendor GenuineIntel
CPU Full Name Intel Core 2 Duo
CPU Name Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz
CPU Code Name Conroe
Technology 0.065µ
Platform Name LGA775
Type Original OEM processor
FSB Mode QDR
Microcode ID 44
Type ID 0
CPU Clock 2400.03
System Bus Clock 1066.68
System Clock 266.67
Multiplier 9.00
Original Clock 2400.00
Original Bus Clock 1066.67
Original System Clock 266.67
Original Multiplier 9.00
Overclock 0.00%
CPU Family / Model / Stepping 6 / F / 6
Model Extended 0
HyperThreading 1
L1 I-Cache 32 KB
L1 D-Cache 32 KB
L2 Cache 2048 KB
RDMSR 42480000 00000000 88048928 00000000
MMX Yes
MMX+ No


Additionally, I checked the HD stats for my raptor and this is what I got:

Property Value
Type Fixed hard disk media
Vendor Western Digital
Model WDC WD360GD-00FLA2
Disk Family WD Raptor
Interface IDE SATA
Serial Number WD-WMAKE1931266
Revision 31.08F31
Size 37 GBytes
Removable No
Location Primary Controller - Master drive
Controller Buffer Size on Drive 8 MBytes
Capabilities DMA, LBA, IORDY_Disable, IORDY
PIO Mode Support 0 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4
DMA SW Mode Support Not Supported
DMA MW Mode Support 0 - 1 - 2
UDMA Mode Support 0 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 (ATA/66) - 5 (ATA/100) - 6 (ATA/133)
Current UDMA mode None
Support NCQ No
Support IFPWRMNGTRCV Yes
Temperature 32 ºC (90 ºF)
Form Factor 3.5"
Rotational Speed 10000 RPM (Nominal)
Average Latency 2.99 ms (Nominal)
Contact Start/Stop Cycles 200000 (Minimum)
Read Seek Time 4.50 ms (Average)
Write Seek Time 5.90 ms (Average)
Track-To-Track Seek Time 0.60 ms (Average)
Full Stroke Seek 10.20 ms (Average)
SMART Support Yes
 

andytaro

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I have an extra 7900GT collectin dust. I have p5b dlx(non-wifi) and am wondering whether I can use SLI or not.
Any ideas?
 

Hawaiian2002

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I have the P5B board with the 6300 processor. I could not post. I was thinking that I had to update the bios to recognize the cpu. I would get no beeps. I purchased pny ram from compusa just in case. Turns out it was the ram. I have two sticks of OCZ2P8002GK (plat pc800 4-5-4-15). After I finally booted, I upgraded the bios to version 509 - I believe I had version 200 something. Now the ocz ram works.

In other computers, usually if the ram module is bad, you will get some type of bios error beeps. This one made no beeps and normally you would think that is was the cpu.

Anyway, I'm not seeing that this board is all that great. My silent gpu cooler does not fit because of the northbridge heatsink. Also, one pci slot is unusable which leaves only two. Since there is no firewire, I have to use a pci firewire card. I have an audigy sound card for the other slot and that's it. Also, I have an Antec p180 case and I have heavy congestion on the bottom right of the board. The power cables are coming up there interfering with the ide, sata, floppy, usb cables....etc. Also, my p4 4 pin power cable doesn't reach. That cable has to go all the way to the top of the board. The board does not boot without that cable. I rigged something up with an old power supply to get it working. SVC has extension p4 cables if anyone is interested.
 

Caliginosity

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Yeah, I get the exact same reading as you, Fishy, with regards to the CPU information. L2 cache only registered as 2048 instead of 4096 as it's listed in CPU-Z.

With regards to your harddrive reading, that is interesting to see. I am missing many of the lower listed readings, such as:

Form Factor
Average Latency
Contact Start/Stop Cycles
Read Seek Time
Write Seek Time
Track-To-Track Seek Time
Full Stroke Seek

I sent an email to the creator of the utility and hope to get a response soon with regards to it. I even tried reading the HDD on my wifes computer, but got the same optional readings, though on hers I didn't even get a rotational speed listing - which leads me to believe that there is a possible informational problem with the utility. Do me a favor and download HD Tach from here - http://www.simplisoftware.com/Public/index.php?request=HdTach and run a long bench on your WD Raptor (should take about 4 minutes if not less). I did and got a Burst Speed of 134.6 MB/s, Random Access of 8.3ms, and an average read of 75.7 MB/s. If yours blows mine away then I'll know that I either set it up very wrong, or I need to RMA it and get another harddrive as this one isn't performing as it's suppose to.


 

madoka

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Is this board still reading the CPU temp as too hot? Is there a fix for it yet?

I've got a 6400 with a Zalman 9500 AT and I'm idling in the upper 40s to low 50s.
 

Fishy007

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Originally posted by: madoka
Is this board still reading the CPU temp as too hot? Is there a fix for it yet?

I've got a 6400 with a Zalman 9500 AT and I'm idling in the upper 40s to low 50s.

That's weird. I idle at 36c most of the time with my 6600 and the same fan. What thermal paste did you use?

 

Fishy007

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Originally posted by: Caliginosity
Yeah, I get the exact same reading as you, Fishy, with regards to the CPU information. L2 cache only registered as 2048 instead of 4096 as it's listed in CPU-Z.

With regards to your harddrive reading, that is interesting to see. I am missing many of the lower listed readings, such as:

Form Factor
Average Latency
Contact Start/Stop Cycles
Read Seek Time
Write Seek Time
Track-To-Track Seek Time
Full Stroke Seek

I sent an email to the creator of the utility and hope to get a response soon with regards to it. I even tried reading the HDD on my wifes computer, but got the same optional readings, though on hers I didn't even get a rotational speed listing - which leads me to believe that there is a possible informational problem with the utility. Do me a favor and download HD Tach from here - http://www.simplisoftware.com/Public/index.php?request=HdTach and run a long bench on your WD Raptor (should take about 4 minutes if not less). I did and got a Burst Speed of 134.6 MB/s, Random Access of 8.3ms, and an average read of 75.7 MB/s. If yours blows mine away then I'll know that I either set it up very wrong, or I need to RMA it and get another harddrive as this one isn't performing as it's suppose to.


Hey Cal,
I ran a short test a few weeks ago with HD Tach and I seem to remember I was around 95 I'll try the long test tonight if I remember.

As for your other issues, I looked at your earlier post and it seems you're running in IDE mode (set in the bios) not AHCI mode. AHCI unlocks a bunch of features found with SATA.

However, the catch is that you can't just enable it. Windows won't boot if you simply turn it on. WHen I first installed Windows, I had to hit F6 to load the ICH8R driver so Windows would recognize the SATA drives. It won't recongize the drives without this drive. Problem is I'm not sure how to load/install the driver AFTER Windows has already been installed.
 

madoka

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Originally posted by: Fishy007
Originally posted by: madoka
Is this board still reading the CPU temp as too hot? Is there a fix for it yet?

I've got a 6400 with a Zalman 9500 AT and I'm idling in the upper 40s to low 50s.

That's weird. I idle at 36c most of the time with my 6600 and the same fan. What thermal paste did you use?

AS5 like every other geek in here. There have been multiple threads about the temp readings. AFAIK, people could not figure out if it was the chip or the board that was the problem.
 
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