*** Official ASUS P5W DH Thread ***

[imported_bruce24]

Originally posted by: Skott
Bruce,
What program are you using to monitor temps?

I now have the side on my computer, and just installed EVEREST which is reporting without a load:

Motherboard ------> 47c
CPU -----------------> 28c
CPU #1 / Core #1 -> 37c
CPU #1 / Core #2 -> 36c
GPU Ambiant ------> 49c
GPU VRM ----------> 62c

I installed ORTHOS and with it running "Blend - stress CPU and RAM" I get:

Motherboard ------> 47c
CPU -----------------> 39c
CPU #1 / Core #1 -> 53c
CPU #1 / Core #2 -> 51c
GPU Ambiant ------> 50c
GPU VRM ----------> 62c


It doesn't seem to get the Fan mapping correct.

It says
CPU 1288RPM
Aux 1318RPM
Chassis 1951RPM

While PC Probe II says:
CPU 1997RPM
Chassis1 1288RPM
Chassis2 1350RPM

PC Probe II seems to have them mapped correctly.

-Bruce

 

[raincityboy]

Originally posted by: IfReborn
how do i boot up in safe mode? f8 brings up a boot device list.

start pressing f8 after post...

 

[yessir]

Phil,

Just an update...It was the PSU. Working on RMA with Antec but got a Enermax WHisper II anyway and build is good now.

I do have another question though...At Freq 380*8 the after XP updates and stuff, after POST the screen got stuck and was able to get back in ONLY after CMOS re-set. Does it mean CPU failed at 3.04 GHz. Do I need a special cooler than stock cooler I am using.

Thanks again for all the help.

 

[phile]

Originally posted by: yessir
Phil,

Just an update...It was the PSU. Working on RMA with Antec but got a Enermax WHisper II anyway and build is good now.

I do have another question though...At Freq 380*8 the after XP updates and stuff, after POST the screen got stuck and was able to get back in ONLY after CMOS re-set. Does it mean CPU failed at 3.04 GHz. Do I need a special cooler than stock cooler I am using.

Thanks again for all the help.

Could be a slew of things, but most o/c issues are due to insufficient vcore. At 380, you're probably going to need a vcore of 1.45 or higher. Make sure you have Hyperpath 3 and DRAM Throttling disabled on the Advanced/Chipset page. You may also need to enable SPD timings, required by many with high FSB.

-phil

 

[mollusk]

I'm considering a P5W DH, here's what I have so far:

E6300
GeIL GX22GB6400DC 2GB Kit DDR2-800 PC2-6400 DDR 2 Series Dual Channel Memory

- Good RAM? Timings are something like 5-5-5-5-15000, heh, but I got it for under $200

- Do I NEED a floppy drive to install SATA drivers on XP, or is it handled by the controller?
- Can it do SLI (even if unofficially)?
- Good OC'er?

Thanks!

 

[phile]

Originally posted by: mollusk
I'm considering a P5W DH, here's what I have so far:

E6300
GeIL GX22GB6400DC 2GB Kit DDR2-800 PC2-6400 DDR 2 Series Dual Channel Memory

- Good RAM? Timings are something like 5-5-5-5-15000, heh, but I got it for under $200

- Do I NEED a floppy drive to install SATA drivers on XP, or is it handled by the controller?
- Can it do SLI (even if unofficially)?
- Good OC'er?

Thanks!

If you plan to run your SATA in the default mode (Standard IDE) you will not need to load a driver before XP install. IF you wish to run in AHCI or RAID modes, you will need to prepare floppy and do the F6 routine.

I have read of people doing SLI on this board with some hacked driver. Can't speak to how well it works. Best to not buy this board if SLI is a primary goal. The board does support Crossfire, though.

Yes, this board is agreat overclocker, in the right hands, and especially if you buy the second revision, which has a higher max voltage for the northbridge.

-phil

 

[yessir]

Phil,

Thanks again...I had to go back to default CPU speed to asceratin why I was getting horrific CPU temperatures (please see below)...I have sent an email to Intel Support on the same also. What I am going thru' is really unreal and I hope others can realte to this. I choose a wrong time to build a PC, Iguess.

Any suggestions or comments by anyone?

Thanks again Phil...

Session start: 16:23:11, September 24, 2006
CPUID: 0x6F6
Processor:
Revision: B2
CPU Speed CPU#1 (Core#1) CPU#1 (Core#2)
2137.04 76 74
2137.04 76 74
2137.04 75 74
2137.04 76 74

 

[phile]

Originally posted by: yessir
Phil,

Thanks again...I had to go back to default CPU speed to asceratin why I was getting horrific CPU temperatures (please see below)...I have sent an email to Intel Support on the same also. What I am going thru' is really unreal and I hope others can realte to this. I choose a wrong time to build a PC, Iguess.

Any suggestions or comments by anyone?

Thanks again Phil...

Session start: 16:23:11, September 24, 2006
CPUID: 0x6F6
Processor:
Revision: B2
CPU Speed CPU#1 (Core#1) CPU#1 (Core#2)
2137.04 76 74
2137.04 76 74
2137.04 75 74
2137.04 76 74

Those are idle temps? Ouch! Make sure the heatsink is making good contact with the CPU heatspreader, and that it's properly secured to the mobo. If you can easily move the HSF it's not properly secured. You also need to make sure you have good airflow in the case. That means having at least on intake fan at the font, and an exhaust fan at the back. A high ambient room temp can also increase temps by a few degrees.

If you plan to overclock, you're probably better off getting an aftermarket cooler, and using artic silver 5 thermal paste.

-phil

 

[yessir]

Originally posted by: phile

Originally posted by: yessir
Phil,

Thanks again...I had to go back to default CPU speed to asceratin why I was getting horrific CPU temperatures (please see below)...I have sent an email to Intel Support on the same also. What I am going thru' is really unreal and I hope others can realte to this. I choose a wrong time to build a PC, Iguess.

Any suggestions or comments by anyone?

Thanks again Phil...

Session start: 16:23:11, September 24, 2006
CPUID: 0x6F6
Processor:
Revision: B2
CPU Speed CPU#1 (Core#1) CPU#1 (Core#2)
2137.04 76 74
2137.04 76 74
2137.04 75 74
2137.04 76 74

Those are idle temps? Ouch! Make sure the heatsink is making good contact with the CPU heatspreader, and that it's properly secured to the mobo. If you can easily move the HSF it's not properly secured. You also need to make sure you have good airflow in the case. That means having at least on intake fan at the font, and an exhaust fan at the back. A high ambient room temp can also increase temps by a few degrees.

If you plan to overclock, you're probably better off getting an aftermarket cooler, and using artic silver 5 thermal paste.

-phil

Yes, Phil I double checked that and AS5 is already on there pretty good. HSF is practically immovable (real tight). Yes, I have one case fan (sonata II) in back & the space is very clear in & around HSF/CPU. Ambient temp in room is around 78 F (texas is hot). I dont even have much desire to overclock this right now...until I resolve stock fan/default temps are around 35 to 40 C without load - like most who report here say.

All I can do is await what Inetl Support have to say (if ever they choose to say anything)

Thanks much for your prompt and kind replies...

 

[phile]

Originally posted by: yessir

Originally posted by: phile

Originally posted by: yessir
Phil,

Thanks again...I had to go back to default CPU speed to asceratin why I was getting horrific CPU temperatures (please see below)...I have sent an email to Intel Support on the same also. What I am going thru' is really unreal and I hope others can realte to this. I choose a wrong time to build a PC, Iguess.

Any suggestions or comments by anyone?

Thanks again Phil...

Session start: 16:23:11, September 24, 2006
CPUID: 0x6F6
Processor:
Revision: B2
CPU Speed CPU#1 (Core#1) CPU#1 (Core#2)
2137.04 76 74
2137.04 76 74
2137.04 75 74
2137.04 76 74

Those are idle temps? Ouch! Make sure the heatsink is making good contact with the CPU heatspreader, and that it's properly secured to the mobo. If you can easily move the HSF it's not properly secured. You also need to make sure you have good airflow in the case. That means having at least on intake fan at the font, and an exhaust fan at the back. A high ambient room temp can also increase temps by a few degrees.

If you plan to overclock, you're probably better off getting an aftermarket cooler, and using artic silver 5 thermal paste.

-phil

Yes, Phil I double checked that and AS5 is already on there pretty good. HSF is practically immovable (real tight). Yes, I have one case fan (sonata II) in back & the space is very clear in & around HSF/CPU. Ambient temp in room is around 78 F (texas is hot). I dont even have much desire to overclock this right now...until I resolve stock fan/default temps are around 35 to 40 C without load - like most who report here say.

All I can do is await what Inetl Support have to say (if ever they choose to say anything)

Thanks much for your prompt and kind replies...

Sometimes, it takes a few attempts to get a good HSF install. I would recommend you take it all apart and start over. Apply avery small amount of AS5 - about the size of a small grain of rice - and spread it evenly across the entire surface of the CPU heatspreader.

Incidentally, what is the CPU temp in Probe 2?

-phil

 

[yessir]

Sometimes, it takes a few attempts to get a good HSF install. I would recommend you take it all apart and start over. Apply avery small amount of AS5 - about the size of a small grain of rice - and spread it evenly across the entire surface of the CPU heatspreader.

Incidentally, what is the CPU temp in Probe 2?

-phil

[/quote]

Ok...Will try. I strongly suspect my AS5 is an old stock that ended up with me (got it in Frys). It is really dark greyish and not much of what I have seen in pictures with a silverish tint. This maybe a chance for me to dump stock cooler and get zalman 9500 instead.

BTW, did not even use Probe II yet (just the core temp program & hardware monitor via BIOS).

Thanks Phil

 

[phile]

Your AS5 sounds fine. The stuff lasts for years, ayway.

-phil

 

[TMavC5]

Keep seeing everyone using their sigs with the latest BIOS 1405. Where can I find one because I can't seems to find it at ASUS support site. Please reply with link to it.

TIA.

 

[phile]

Grab it here:
http://wiki.p5wdh.de/doku.php?id=downloads:bios

-phil

 

[TMavC5]

Hey thanks for the link.

 

[Lord MarK]

Hi guys, and special thanks to phile who did an amazing work in this thread. Much help it was to me man!

Maybe you can help me with this though...

You will see my specs into my Signature.

I tried to OC the machine according to all the infos I could get into this thread.

Here is what I did :

FSB: 333 (tried also some weird available settings like DDR2-800 +++sxxx)
DRAM: 666 (tried also at 833)
VDIMM: 2.0 (tried auto)
VCORE: 1.425 (tried also 1.4 but would not even boot, 1.45, 1.5, tried auto)
Everytime I would OC, my Core Temp would jump 10 Degres, going from stock of 40-43 to 50-55). At 1,425 the temps would be around 48 Degres. All of these are at idle of course. (tried also at auto)

SPD: Disabled (tried also to just leave the RAM settings on auto with the FSB OC)
TIMINGS: 5-5-5-15
HYPERPATH 3: Disabled


Anyways, I was able to make a modest OC of the 6800 extreme and put it at 3.7 GHz.

But after this, on every variation of these settings, I would get major drops in 3Dmark06. (In Crossfire mode, from 9500+(stock settings) to 6200 (at OC settings).

After some tests using all kind of variations I realized it seems impossible to get better results with my machine being Overclocked.

So I put everything back to auto and stock settings....I ran 3Dmark06 again and realized I was still at least 1000 points down from my original test at stock....

Only after reinstalling my Video cards drivers was I able to get back to the original mark.

I have no more idea what to do. I mean the Rig is really cool as it is...I just feel Im not using it to its full potential w/o OC it...

I also tried some auto OC the mobo seems to offer... I got it to 15% OC but the same poor performance could be experience...

Maybe its because of the high core temperature when the OC is in effect?

I have a very well ventilated case (CooerMaster Stalker with lots of fans). But I have the retail Heatsink from Intel... I thought of keeping it since I am only interested in a modest and stable Overclock for this machine.


Thanks for any help/comment you can offer!



Num

 

[yessir]

Originally posted by: phile
Your AS5 sounds fine. The stuff lasts for years, ayway.

-phil

Thanks Phil...I could not go any better than about 66 C at 2.13 Ghz at idle even after re-set AS5, etc..

Interestingly, when I was checking newegg for zalman, someone had a review within quotes...
"I have a Core 2 Duo E6400. With the stock heatsink/fan I was idling at 65C and under load around 70-75C. Yes, it sucked!!! I bought this heatsink and some Arctic Cooler compound. Right when I booted up I used Core Temp to check the cpu temp. BOOM! I now idle at 33-35C and under load it never goes over 47C".

Regards

 

[phile]

Originally posted by: yessir

Originally posted by: phile
Your AS5 sounds fine. The stuff lasts for years, ayway.

-phil

Thanks Phil...I could not go any better than about 66 C at 2.13 Ghz at idle even after re-set AS5, etc..

Interestingly, when I was checking newegg for zalman, someone had a review within quotes...
"I have a Core 2 Duo E6400. With the stock heatsink/fan I was idling at 65C and under load around 70-75C. Yes, it sucked!!! I bought this heatsink and some Arctic Cooler compound. Right when I booted up I used Core Temp to check the cpu temp. BOOM! I now idle at 33-35C and under load it never goes over 47C".

Regards

This is why I'm such a proponent of aftermarket coolers, even for people running at stock. The stock cooler is badly designed, and very difficult to properly install. There are so many good coolers to choose from, most of which will yield significantly cooler temps than the stock cooler.

-phil

 

[phile]

Originally posted by: Lord MarK
Hi guys, and special thanks to phile who did an amazing work in this thread. Much help it was to me man!

Thanks, man. I'm always happy to help wherever I can.

Originally posted by: Lord MarK
Anyways, I was able to make a modest OC of the 6800 extreme and put it at 3.7 GHz.
But after this, on every variation of these settings, I would get major drops in 3Dmark06. (In Crossfire mode, from 9500+(stock settings) to 6200 (at OC settings).
After some tests using all kind of variations I realized it seems impossible to get better results with my machine being Overclocked.
So I put everything back to auto and stock settings....I ran 3Dmark06 again and realized I was still at least 1000 points down from my original test at stock....
Only after reinstalling my Video cards drivers was I able to get back to the original mark.
I have no more idea what to do. I mean the Rig is really cool as it is...I just feel Im not using it to its full potential w/o OC it...
I also tried some auto OC the mobo seems to offer... I got it to 15% OC but the same poor performance could be experience...
Maybe its because of the high core temperature when the OC is in effect?
I have a very well ventilated case (CooerMaster Stalker with lots of fans). But I have the retail Heatsink from Intel... I thought of keeping it since I am only interested in a modest and stable Overclock for this machine.

I had the exact same experience, moving from 9X333 (3GHz) / mem at 1:1 (666), to 8X400 (3.2GHz) / mem at 1:1 (800). I lost about 2000 points on both my PCMark05 and 3DMark03 scores, with the latter config. I have not yet found an explanation for this. Perhaps, when the FSB reaches a certain point problems are caused with the PCI-Express bus. Maybe it's a driver issue. I really have no clue.

-phil

 

[pschweig]

Hi

I am embarking on my first pc build from scratch. I have chosen the asus P5W DH mobo to go with an E6600

Is the Antec 120mm Smart Cool fan suitable for use with the P5W DH

http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=2RWK&PageMode=1

In the description it says that the fan has a separate signal connector to the motherboard. Is that a standard connection? I presume it's purpose is to let the fan know how fast it needs to spin?

Is the 4-pin power connector also standard?

many thanks
paul schweiger

 

[phile]

Originally posted by: pschweig
Hi

I am embarking on my first pc build from scratch. I have chosen the asus P5W DH mobo to go with an E6600

Is the Antec 120mm Smart Cool fan suitable for use with the P5W DH

http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=2RWK&PageMode=1

In the description it says that the fan has a separate signal connector to the motherboard. Is that a standard connection? I presume it's purpose is to let the fan know how fast it needs to spin?

Is the 4-pin power connector also standard?

many thanks
paul schweiger

Are you planning to use this fan as a case fan, or with a CPU heatsink? The 4-pin power connector is a molex connector which you would connect to the PSU if using the fan a case fan. The signal connector is likely a 3-pin connector that plugs into the mobo so that you can monitor the fan rpm.

-phil

 

[pschweig]

hey phil

thanks for the quick reply

I am planning to use it as a case fan. I am hoping that it will automatically adjust its rpm by how hard the cpu is working.

Am I likely to need >1 fan?

 

[Skott]

You really should have at least two case fans. One for intake and one for exhaust. Personally I feel three fans is bare minimum but thats just how I am. I like lots of cooling. The third fan can be either intake or exhaust. If intake then side is probably best and if exhaust then have it on top(Remember this is in addition to the two case fans minimum I stated above[front intake/rear exhaust]). The case itself though can determine where and how many fans you need. If you are going to overclock then definetly want three case fans minimum IMO. Personally, I'm a proponent of the bigger slower fans than the smaller faster fans. Bigger slower fans move the same amount of air but much more quieter generally speaking.

 

[The111]

nevermind...

 

[imported_bruce24]

Originally posted by: TMavC5
Keep seeing everyone using their sigs...q]


How do I setup a MyRig signature?

-Bruce