*** Official ASUS P5W DH Thread ***

[touchstone1]

OK, I've got my E6600 running at 333MHz FSB at stock and on air, but cannot get my Corsair Twin2X2048-6400C4 to run at DDR-666 (in Jumperfree). Disabling SPD timings, set to manufacturers timing recommendation (4-4-4-12), voltage at 1.95V. The PC cold boots. I restart, and POST reports DDR2-5300...

I'm using 1305 BIOS.

Any suggestions or advice? Many thanks...

 

[touchstone1]

Originally posted by: touchstone
OK, I've got my E6600 running at 333MHz FSB at stock and on air, but cannot get my Corsair Twin2X2048-6400C4 to run at DDR-666 (in Jumperfree). Disabling SPD timings, set to manufacturers timing recommendation (4-4-4-12), voltage at 1.95V. The PC cold boots. I restart, and POST reports DDR2-5300...

I'm using 1305 BIOS.

Any suggestions or advice? Many thanks...

Oh dear. Oh dear. DDR2-5300 spec. means ... 666MHz. :roll:

So ... (tries to think of an intelligent question) ... should I try dropping the timings, since 4-4-4-12 is for 800MHz?

 

[phile]

I have no experience with Corsair mem, been using OCZ for a while, now. My OCZ mem is rated for 4-5-4-15 timings and 2.1v @ DDR2-800, so I just assumed it would run fine underclocked to DDR2-666 with the same settings, and it does. Are you sure you're using the rated voltage and timings for your mem @ DDR2-800? (try vdimm @ 2.0v) You could also try the rated timings and voltage with your mem @ DDR2-833 (slightly overclocked) - that would use the 4:5 divider. Honestly, I have tried both configs and the performance difference is negligible, so go with what is stable.

-phil

 

[phile]

Originally posted by: touchstone
OK, I've got my E6600 running at 333MHz FSB at stock and on air, but cannot get my Corsair Twin2X2048-6400C4 to run at DDR-666 (in Jumperfree). Disabling SPD timings, set to manufacturers timing recommendation (4-4-4-12), voltage at 1.95V. The PC cold boots. I restart, and POST reports DDR2-5300...

I'm using 1305 BIOS.

Any suggestions or advice? Many thanks...

I think I understand. The P5W DH behaves differently when overclocked - it will suddenly shutdown when saving BIOS settings. Also, when you restart windows, the machine will power off and restart by itself. This is normal behavior for this board. I originally understood your message to mean that the machine will not post with the new settings. It is booting fine, right?

And yeah, PC2-5300 =667MHz. Hehe.

-phil

 

[CowboyFarmer]

Originally posted by: touchstone
OK, I've got my E6600 running at 333MHz FSB at stock and on air, but cannot get my Corsair Twin2X2048-6400C4 to run at DDR-666 (in Jumperfree). Disabling SPD timings, set to manufacturers timing recommendation (4-4-4-12), voltage at 1.95V. The PC cold boots. I restart, and POST reports DDR2-5300...

I'm using 1305 BIOS.

Any suggestions or advice? Many thanks...

Touchstone, I have the same components you have (P5WDH, E6600, and Corsair XMS2 6400C4). The RAM is rated at 2.1V. If you disable SPD timings, you need to give it 2.1V when you set it to 4-4-4-12. I am running mine at 350 FSB and memory ratio at 1:1.

Hope this help.

 

[imported_olaf]

Is it me or does the Asus site suck horribly?

Its slow. Its unorganized and it seems out of date.

I notice there is a new 1305 BIOS up on the NA site, anyone tried it?

 

[mikepaul]

Originally posted by: olaf
I notice there is a new 1305 BIOS up on the NA site, anyone tried it?

I still use the 0801 they sent me via UPS. What have they done to make upgrading worthwhile?...

 

[phile]

Yes, the ASUS site is almost impossible to use, most of the time. And yes, the 1305 BIOS is being widely used, by myself included.

Bookmark this site:
http://wiki.p5wdh.de/doku.php

They manage to get their hands on new BIOS revisions before they become available on ASUS's site. Not only do you get new BIOS revisions sooner, you can avoid having to visit ASUS's site.

-phil

 

[imported_MrDisco]

Originally posted by: olaf
Its slow. Its unorganized and it seems out of date.

It's not you. It is the slowest, unorganized, out of date website i've seen for what is supposed to be a premier technology company. The best was yesterday when their US website refused more connections because they were overloaded. <_< great way to show off your products guys.

 

[renozi]

Well, well, well. If Mr. Phil isn't correct. Here are your benchmarks Phil-too lazy to post pics . I guess I was WRONG! The first time I benchmarked with DDR2-667 it gave better score than DDR2-833 but I guess that was just a fluke. The DDR2-833 benchmark the first time did seem a little weird to me because it wasn't so much better than stock FSB but now everything is fine again. The faster memory showed improvements in most of the benchmarks, minus the synthetic game ones. So here you are:

DDR2-667
3DMark2001SE 46846
3DMark03 20548
3DMark05 12218
3DMark06 6229 CPU 2911
PCMARK04 MEM 10714
PCMARK05 CPU 8366 MEM 6842
Sandra 2007 MEM Int 6697MB/s Float 6691MB/s
Cache and Memory 31351MB/s
Everest Read 8332MB/s
Write 6052MB/s
Copy 5795MB/s
Super PI 8M 3m 17.765s

DDR2-833
3DMark2001SE 46696
3DMark03 20610
3DMark05 12253
3DMark06 6242 CPU 2936
PCMARK04 MEM 11006
PCMARK05 CPU 8364 MEM 6939
Sandra 2007 MEM Int 6903MB/s Float 6897MB/s
Cache and Memory 33216MB/s
Everest Read 8528MB/s
Write 6060MB/s
Copy 6382MB/s
Super PI 8M 3m 11.188s

Edit: This was on E6700 3.33GHz, 1333MHz FSB with Mem @4-4-4-8 on both DDR2-667 and DDR2-833.

 

[imported_olaf]

Ok so I got my new comp put together today.

E6600
P5W DH Deluxe
Xfi basic
X1900 XT
PCPowerandCooling Silencer 750
2gb OCZ Platinum PC6400

It came with the 1101 BIOS on it. Windows installed fine. It updated fine. I installed new 975 chipset drivers from Intel and updated the NIC drivers. Installed X1900 drivers, the latest, same with Xfi. Lots of reboots during this period of course. I flashed the BIOS to 1305 and started playing with some conservative overclocking settings. Got some random reboots, so I came back down and eventually reflashed to 1101. Problem now is, at stock settings, I am seeing random reboots. Every 30-60 mins or so the comp will just reset, as if I had hit the damn button. Its infuriating.

Any ideas? Temps seem ok, its got a Zalman 7700 on there. I repped the stock thermal compound on the mobo with AS5. I have done that kind of ****** before so I am pretty sure I got it on right. Checked the cables, they all seemed fine.

TIA

 

[phile]

I have the same mobo/cpu/mem, so I may be able to help. What are your BIOS settings when the machine reboots? Do you have the mem timings and voltage set per the rated specs?

Feel free to re-flash to 1305. Configure your BIOS as follows:

FSB: 266
DRAM: 800
VCORE: AUTO
VDIMM: 2.1
SPD: DISABLED
TIMINGS: 4-4-5-15
(note: the timings order in the BIOS does not match the sticker on the mem)
HYPERPATH 3: AUTO (disable this when you eventually overclock)

Disable whatever components you're not using, like onboard audio, jmicron controller, second ethernet, qfan, etc.

Then, test your RAM with memtest86:
http://www.memtest.org

If you get any errors, run the test with each stick separately. If you get errors on only one of your sticks, it's a good bet that that stick is bad. Same thing happened to me with my first pair. If you get errors on both, that's a tougher call. If you get no errors, boot into windows and run stress test with Orthos Stress Prime (blended).
http://sp2004.fre3.com/beta/beta2.htm


Update: It just occurred to me that I saw something recently about problems with the X-Fi and certain chipsets. I don't remember anything else, but you may want to add to the above a test of your rig with the X-Fi disabled.

-phil

 

[phile]

Originally posted by: renozi
Well, well, well. If Mr. Phil isn't correct. Here are your benchmarks Phil-too lazy to post pics . I guess I was WRONG! The first time I benchmarked with DDR2-667 it gave better score than DDR2-833 but I guess that was just a fluke. The DDR2-833 benchmark the first time did seem a little weird to me because it wasn't so much better than stock FSB but now everything is fine again. The faster memory showed improvements in most of the benchmarks, minus the synthetic game ones. So here you are:

DDR2-667
3DMark2001SE 46846
3DMark03 20548
3DMark05 12218
3DMark06 6229 CPU 2911
PCMARK04 MEM 10714
PCMARK05 CPU 8366 MEM 6842
Sandra 2007 MEM Int 6697MB/s Float 6691MB/s
Cache and Memory 31351MB/s
Everest Read 8332MB/s
Write 6052MB/s
Copy 5795MB/s
Super PI 8M 3m 17.765s

DDR2-833
3DMark2001SE 46696
3DMark03 20610
3DMark05 12253
3DMark06 6242 CPU 2936
PCMARK04 MEM 11006
PCMARK05 CPU 8364 MEM 6939
Sandra 2007 MEM Int 6903MB/s Float 6897MB/s
Cache and Memory 33216MB/s
Everest Read 8528MB/s
Write 6060MB/s
Copy 6382MB/s
Super PI 8M 3m 11.188s

Edit: This was on E6700 3.33GHz, 1333MHz FSB with Mem @4-4-4-8 on both DDR2-667 and DDR2-833.

Interesting. The difference between 667 @ 1:1 and 833 @ 4:5 are mostly negligible on your rig. Do we conclude that mem performance is more efficient when running at a lower frequency without a divider?

-phil

 

[imported_MrDisco]

Originally posted by: phile
Update: It just occurred to me that I saw something recently about problems with the X-Fi and certain chipsets. I don't remember anything else, but you may want to add to the above a test of your rig with the X-Fi disabled.

-phil

the problem first appeared with nForce AMD users and the X-Fi, but I think the problem has carried over into the Intel world as well. To the op, check the creative labs support forum as there is an ongoing discussion about the X-Fi and its issues.

 

[renozi]

Originally posted by: phile

Interesting. The difference between 667 @ 1:1 and 833 @ 4:5 are mostly negligible on your rig. Do we conclude that mem performance is more efficient when running at a lower frequency without a divider?

-phil

Actually, I never looked at it that way, but I guess you're right again. Running memory at 667 is more efficient than the higher 833, giving almost the same performance without the extra strain of higher speeds.

 

[thebeatfiend]

I am about to purchase this motherboard, and I would greatly appreciate if I can get some advice on what problems to expect with this board. Following is a list of my parts I will be using. The only thing which I already bought is the Video Card, besides that if you think of better parts then what I chose please let me know.


E6600


CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820145038
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820145034


Scythe Ninja Plus
http://www.newegg.com/Product/CustRatingReview.asp?Item=N82E16835185001


eVGA 7950GX2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130023

 

[milnerw]

Hey Guys

I reseated my processor and all is well with the overclocking now.

My Setup

Core 2 Duo E6400 stock cooling
Corsair XMS2 TWINX PC6400C5 5-5-5-18-22
200 GB WD HDD
120 GB Maxtor HDD
40GB WD IDE drive (holds my music)
Sound Blaster X-Fi Extreme Music
OCZ PSU
XFX GeForce 7900 GT Extreme 520 / 1500
Thermal Take Tsunami Case (Replaced Fans with Ceramic Silent fans)

I managed to get a 50% overclock on stock cooling and has been stable now for two weeks and i have never used anything soo ****** quick in my life.

Check the Super Pi reduction at 1m and 2m from Stock to 3.2ghz pretty impressed.

CPU @ STOCK

CPU @ 2.4 + Stock Voltage

CPU @ 2.67 + Stock Voltage

CPU @ 3.2GHZ and 1.5 Volts

My CPU-Z 3.2GHZ Validated score

3Dmark05 Score

3Dmark06 Score

 

[milnerw]

I have orderd a scyth ninja so we will see how far i can get. Im just concernd about the ram would the performance be hamperd by the timing's or do you recon if i jumped it upto 5-6-6 and 425 it would be stable ?

Does anyone know the OC limit of my ram ? coz currently it has not been overclocked as i thought that the timings are already slow enough or am i just being stupid ?

 

[phile]

Originally posted by: thebeatfiend
I am about to purchase this motherboard, and I would greatly appreciate if I can get some advice on what problems to expect with this board. Following is a list of my parts I will be using. The only thing which I already bought is the Video Card, besides that if you think of better parts then what I chose please let me know.


E6600


CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820145038
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820145034


Scythe Ninja Plus
http://www.newegg.com/Product/CustRatingReview.asp?Item=N82E16835185001


eVGA 7950GX2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130023

Everything looks good. You might want to think about getting a dedicated soundcard, but that's mostly my paranoia about onboard audio, speaking. Oh, and don't forget to buy yourself a tube of Arctic Silver 5, to go with the Ninja.

-phil

 

[phile]

Originally posted by: milnerw
I have orderd a scyth ninja so we will see how far i can get. Im just concernd about the ram would the performance be hamperd by the timing's or do you recon if i jumped it upto 5-6-6 and 425 it would be stable ?

Does anyone know the OC limit of my ram ? coz currently it has not been overclocked as i thought that the timings are already slow enough or am i just being stupid ?

That's a nice o/c. The E6400 seems to be a better o/c'er than the E6600.

As for your RAM, at such high FSB it's a good idea to set SPD to manual until you find a stable config. At that point, you could try slowly tightening some of the timings.

-phil

 

[srs]

Is there a easy way to (temporarily) change the boot order? On my old Asus MB, pressing the ESC key during boot would pop up a menu asking which device you wanted to boot from....

 

[phile]

Yes. In the BIOS BOOT area there three pages for this:

1- HD order
2- ROM drive order
3- Boot priority

The first drives from #1 and #2 will be available in the Boot priority list of #3.

Correction: Disregard the above, I read your question too quickly. I explained how to set the permanent boot order. I have no idea if what you ask is possible with this board.

-phil

 

[machined]

Originally posted by: srs
Is there a easy way to (temporarily) change the boot order? On my old Asus MB, pressing the ESC key during boot would pop up a menu asking which device you wanted to boot from....

it's F8 [don't ask me what BBS stands for though ]

:thumbsup:

 

[srs]

doh! its right there on the startup screen thanks guys.

 

[imported_olaf]

Ok I ran memtest for a couple of hours at DDR800 4-4-5-15 (using your settings phile, ordered the same as the BIOS...what should the setting after 15 be? I forget what its called but there is another setting reading from top to bottom) and 2.10 volts. No errors. So, I think the memory is probably ok.

I went ahead and reflashed to 1305 as well.

I looked through the Event Viewer and despite the machine appearing to just insta reboot, there were actually system dumps. Of course I have no idea what to do with them. It looked also like there were ATI CCC errors around the time of the system dumps so I removed the ATI drivers and installed the latest Omega.

So far no issues but, its a really random thing so I am not out of the woods yet. My next move would probably be to remove the Xfi and go with the onboard sound. I dont have fancy speakers just a 2.1, not sure why I even bought an Xfi, it repped an Audigy 2 that was working fine.

Regarding BIOS settings, what do you guys do for the SATA/IDE stuff? I have the non intel SATA controller disabled because I am not using it. I am not running RAID so right now my IDE/SATA settings are all stock. Should I change anything? It has SATA running in 'Standard IDE mode' do I want to change that? The options are RAID and AHPI I think.

olaf