*** Official ASUS P5W DH Thread ***

[renozi]

oh aqaxz, i have the same monitor as you (2005FPW) or maybe yours is the 2007WFP version, but don't have your issues related to the video.

 

[aqaxz]

Originally posted by: renozi
oh aqaxz, i have the same monitor as you (2005FPW) or maybe yours is the 2007WFP version, but don't have your issues related to the video.

damn i just dont get it, are there any drivers for the monitor? if it is not the monitor, then i would say its safe to say its the grfx card...? i have the 2005fpw

 

[aqaxz]

my bios version is 1001, i keep seeing you guys talk about 1403 but when i go to asus.com i find 1305....??

 

[renozi]

um yea there are drivers for the 2005FPW. the drivers should have come with your monitor in a cd. it came with mine. check the dell website, they should have a driver for download. if not then windows update also as a 2005FPW driver from dell for you to update.
as for the bios: http://wiki.p5wdh.de/doku.php?id=downloads:bios
it's in german but google can translate that for you if you want.

 

[aqaxz]

Originally posted by: renozi
as for the bios: http://wiki.p5wdh.de/doku.php?id=downloads:bios
it's in german but google can translate that for you if you want.

THEN WAS WAS I LOOKING AT ON ASUS?
here

 

[phile]

ASUS posts only the final BIOS versions. Certain enthusiast sites, like that German one, will post the beta versions, as well.

-phil

 

[raincityboy]

Originally posted by: renozi
-aqaxz, lapped means that the IHS on the proc is sanded down 'til it is near mirror-like so that you will get better temperatures from your HSF. Phil and I both have lapped our own processors and noticed drops in temp. Here's a link: http://forum.overclock3d.net/showthread.php?t=4735
Mine is much more mirror-like than that, I can see myself clearly when holding it out in front of me.

Just to clarify. The purpose is to even out any irregular surface to reduce thermal resistance. When I lap, I could care less about a mirror finish. Its all about a smooth flat surface. A lot of C2D's have concave IHS's, and thats why lapping helps them.

 

[iamhives]

I just updated my BIOS from 1305 to 1405 and now can't get the PC to boot. Everything was fine before but now when I start up all the fans spin but nothing else. X1900XT fan runs a full speed. I've tried the CMOS reset (remove battery and change jumers routine but still the same problem. Any ideas?

How do I get back to 1305 or even 1101 (which it came with- despite the BIOS chip having a 0701 label)?

 

[phile]

Originally posted by: iamhives
I just updated my BIOS from 1305 to 1405 and now can't get the PC to boot. Everything was fine before but now when I start up all the fans spin but nothing else. X1900XT fan runs a full speed. I've tried the CMOS reset (remove battery and change jumers routine but still the same problem. Any ideas?

How do I get back to 1305 or even 1101 (which it came with- despite the BIOS chip having a 0701 label)?

Which method did you use to flash? There is nothing inherently wrong with 1405 that causes the problem you're having. Odd.

Longshot suggestions:

- try booting with a single stick of mem
- try unplugging the PSU for a few minutes

If the problems persists, try reflashing. Just to clarify, the machine will not POST, correct? That pretty-much rules-out using EzFlash (see manual for info). You could try re-flashing back to 1305 using AFUDOS.

You will need 2 floppy diskettes. Format floppy #1 and make it bootable. On floppy #2 copy both the AFUDOS.exe found on the P5WDH CD, and the BIOS 1305 file (rename this file P5WDH.ROM to avoid DOS truncating the filename).

Now, boot from the 1st floppy. Once you have the A: prompt, insert the 2nd floppy and type the following:

--> afudos /iP5WDH.ROM

Note: the 'i' before the BIOS filename is NOT a typo.

If the re-flashing does not work, your BIOS chip may be toast.

-phil

 

[renozi]

-iamhives reported the same thing that happened to me. iamhives, just continue to hold the power button until it shuts down. then wait about 15 seconds and power up again. if it doesnt so the post screen continue to do so until it does. then press DEL to get to bios screen. it might say bad overclock, blah, blah, blah then press F1 to set cmos correctly. then use a usb stick with bios 1305 or anything 1403 and lower to flash and you should be good. use the EZ flash option.

-Phil, see? this is what i was talking about. bios 1405+ won't let some ppl do things correctly that lower bios versions would. I tried windows flash method and the EZ flash in bios. same thing. odd huh??

 

[renozi]

Originally posted by: raincityboy

Originally posted by: renozi
-aqaxz, lapped means that the IHS on the proc is sanded down 'til it is near mirror-like so that you will get better temperatures from your HSF. Phil and I both have lapped our own processors and noticed drops in temp. Here's a link: http://forum.overclock3d.net/showthread.php?t=4735
Mine is much more mirror-like than that, I can see myself clearly when holding it out in front of me.

Just to clarify. The purpose is to even out any irregular surface to reduce thermal resistance. When I lap, I could care less about a mirror finish. Its all about a smooth flat surface. A lot of C2D's have concave IHS's, and thats why lapping helps them.

oh and thanks raincityboy for clarifying!

 

[phile]

Originally posted by: renozi
-iamhives reported the same thing that happened to me. iamhives, just continue to hold the power button until it shuts down. then wait about 15 seconds and power up again. if it doesnt so the post screen continue to do so until it does. then press DEL to get to bios screen. it might say bad overclock, blah, blah, blah then press F1 to set cmos correctly. then use a usb stick with bios 1305 or anything 1403 and lower to flash and you should be good. use the EZ flash option.

-Phil, see? this is what i was talking about. bios 1405+ won't let some ppl do things correctly that lower bios versions would. I tried windows flash method and the EZ flash in bios. same thing. odd huh??

You are concluding that a BIOS version is bad because a few people have problems after flashing to it? First of all, flashing your BIOS is inherently risky, and such problems can occur regardless of BIOS version. Second, every BIOS later than 1305 is BETA, and may cause specific problems in certain scenarios. People have been using the 14xx BIOS versions for a month and the overwhelming majority of them are not experiencing these exact problems.

-phil

 

[renozi]

no no no no phil u got me wrong. i never said the bios was bad. just that for certain people 1405+ won't let them boot in some cases, but never a bad bios. I'm using 1403 myself and it runs beautifully.

 

[phile]

Ah, my bad.

In any case, 1407 just hit the web and can be downloaded here:
http://p5wdh.de/downloads/asus/bios/p5wdh1407.zip

-phil

 

[iamhives]

I've tried this multiple times and still no go. The BIOS flash seemed to complete succesfully. I used the Windows flash utility whatever it's called

Unfortunately I don't have a floppy drive. Guess I may have to spend and few $'s to buy one of these antiques - against my principles but I don't seem to have no alternative (do I?)

 

[phile]

What exactly have you tried multiple times? You said that the machine will not POST.

-phil

 

[iamhives]

Tried the repeated reboots.

Now I've borrowed a floppy drive and booted with bootable floppy and another with AFUDOS at the ready. Same thing - power on, all fans power up (including X1900XT with fan running full speed) , floppy powers up but nothing else happens. No signal to CRT etc

I just did the CMOS reset and unplugged everything. Will try again tomorrow. Any bright ideas?

 

[renozi]

wow never had that happen before! seems like a dead board? umm try booting with the least amount of hardware required(something phil would say). like 1 stick of memory, videocard and proc. give that a go. phil your turn for advice here.

 

[phile]

Originally posted by: iamhives
Tried the repeated reboots.

Now I've borrowed a floppy drive and booted with bootable floppy and another with AFUDOS at the ready. Same thing - power on, all fans power up (including X1900XT with fan running full speed) , floppy powers up but nothing else happens. No signal to CRT etc

I just did the CMOS reset and unplugged everything. Will try again tomorrow. Any bright ideas?

Since your rig was working fine until the BIOS flash, it would appear that your BIOS chip is hosed. If you call ASUS Tech Support they will ship you a new chip. I think they'll charge you something like $15 for overnight service.

Technical Support
Motherboard and General Product Support :
Email: http://vip.asus.com/eservice/techserv.aspx
Tel: 502-995-0883 (select option 3)
Fax: 502-933-8713

Ask for the BIOS department.

-phil

 

[maxxxxel]

ASUS P5W64 WS Pro Simple Pencil Mods

http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4060

 

[p4eenota]

To determine which BIOS your motherboard shipped with, without turning the system on, find the BIOS chip towards the bottom of the motherboard. It's located immediately to the right of the second-from-the-bottom PCI slot. It should have a sticker on top saying which BIOS revision it is. The BIOS chip lies in a socket, so you can replace it.

If already attached to case - and system wont boot up. Open it up?
I am total newbee.

Am trying to build a system with this mobo, P4EE 775 socket, 600W PSU, PNY Optima DDR2 - system wont boot up. No clue how to start troubleshooting. Thanks in advance!

 

[The111]

Hey Phile (and anyone else):

I am having some more temperature concerns. To review:

Few weeks ago I did the mobo mod (TIM/HS covers) and my mobo temps dropped from 56 to 52. I replaced stock CPU HSF with Zalman 9500 and saw CPU idle/load coretemp drop from 56/70+ to 48/59.

Today I finally installed a second case fan (at the front) per your advice. The mobo temp dropped DRAMATICALLY! It is now at 42 (a TEN degree drop) - remember my room is >80C, so that 42 mobo temp is amazing to me. However, the CPU coretemp seems a bit higher (maybe it got higher over the past few days, but I just noticing it now). I just ran orthos and after 30 minutes coretemp was at 67C. Isn't this a bit high for no O/C and Zalman 9500? Zalman fan is on full blast.

Is it at all possible that front case fan altered case airflow somehow and made CPU less cool? The only other thing I can think of is that when I was inside the case I bumped the HSF and it shifted (rotationally) a bit. That is one thing I really don't like about the Zalman 9500, there is no way to secure it rotationally, if that makes any sense. So I pushed it back to where it should be (a <5degree angular shift). Is it possible that this degraded the thermal interface somehow? I was surprised after a week that the AS5 wasn't caked solid yet and preventing rotation. I wouldn't think the rotation would damage the interface because all that is necessary is for the microscopic surface imperfections to be filled in.

I have to admit, now I am considering lapping the interface surfaces, but that thought scares me (as did the thought of the mobo mod, but it worked out).

 

[SavageThrash]

Hye guys, first post so go easy on me

Well i have read up to page 20 in this thread and my goodness it has helped me an unbelivable amout (thnx phile)

I still have one question though, here are my specs

p5w dh deluxe
ocz platinum ddr2 pc2-6400 (same as you a belive phile)
e6400 stock speeds
x1300
620w enermax liberty
zalman 9500 cooler

The question i have is, i was running orthos and it ran for 1 hour and 5 minutes until

1:Test 7, 4500 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M16297569 using 896K FFT length.
1:FATAL ERROR: Rounding was 0.4990234375, expected less than 0.4
1:Hardware failure detected, consult stress.txt file.
1:Torture Test ran 1 hours, 5 minutes 1 seconds - 1 errors, 0 warnings.
1:Execution halted.

thats the first core and the second finished that same test 7 just before that one died and I belive it was fine. heres core 2s message when the test was ended

2:Torture Test ran 1 hours, 5 minutes 1 seconds - 0 errors, 0 warnings.
2:Execution halted.

I decided to continue (i though it was continuing may have been a new one?)

Type: Blend - stress CPU and RAM Min: 8 Max: 4096 InPlace: No Mem: 1791 Time: 15
CPU: 2136MHz FSB: 266MHz [267MHz x 8.0 est.]
CPU: 2137MHz FSB: 266MHz [267MHz x 8.0 est.]
9/30/2006 2:15 PM
Launching 2 threads...
1:Using CPU #0
2:Using CPU #1
1:Beginning a continuous self-test to check your computer.
2:Beginning a continuous self-test to check your computer.
1ress Stop to end this test.
2ress Stop to end this test.
1:Test 1, 4500 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M17432577 using 896K FFT length.
2:Test 1, 4000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M18274367 using 1024K FFT length.
2:Test 2, 4000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M18274369 using 1024K FFT length.
1:Test 2, 4500 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M17432575 using 896K FFT length.
2:Test 3, 4000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M18074369 using 1024K FFT length.
1:Test 3, 4500 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M17115073 using 896K FFT length.
2:Test 4, 4500 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M17432577 using 1024K FFT length.
1:Test 4, 4500 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M16815071 using 896K FFT length.
2:Test 5, 4500 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M17432575 using 1024K FFT length.
1:Test 5, 4500 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M16515073 using 896K FFT length.
2:Test 6, 4500 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M17115073 using 1024K FFT length.
1:Test 6, 4500 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M16515071 using 896K FFT length.
1:Test 7, 4500 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M16297569 using 896K FFT length.
2:Test 7, 4500 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M16815071 using 1024K FFT length.
1:Self-test 896K passed!
1:Test 1, 5300 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M14942209 using 768K FFT length.
2:Self-test 1024K passed!
2:Test 1, 800000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M143361 using 8K FFT length.
1:FATAL ERROR: Rounding was 0.5, expected less than 0.4
1:Hardware failure detected, consult stress.txt file.
1:Torture Test ran 18 minutes 53 seconds - 1 errors, 0 warnings.
1:Execution halted.

2:Torture Test ran 18 minutes 53 seconds - 0 errors, 0 warnings.
2:Execution halted.

so i dont know what exactly is going on here, my comp doesnt crash or anything but i though that this would have lasted longer and with no errors.

any ideas?

EDIT: temps did not exceed 46 maybe 47c to my knowledge and i checked on it quite frequently

 

[phile]

Originally posted by: p4eenota

To determine which BIOS your motherboard shipped with, without turning the system on, find the BIOS chip towards the bottom of the motherboard. It's located immediately to the right of the second-from-the-bottom PCI slot. It should have a sticker on top saying which BIOS revision it is. The BIOS chip lies in a socket, so you can replace it.

If already attached to case - and system wont boot up. Open it up?
I am total newbee.

Am trying to build a system with this mobo, P4EE 775 socket, 600W PSU, PNY Optima DDR2 - system wont boot up. No clue how to start troubleshooting. Thanks in advance!

Did you connect both PSU connectors? There's a 20+4-pin connector (next to the mem slots) and a 4-pin connector (above the CPU socket). If that isn't the problem, try booting with a single stick of mem. There shouldn't be any BIOS issue with the P4EE on this mobo. I could be wrong, but I think that chip will be supported by any of the BIOS versions.

-phil

 

[phile]

Originally posted by: The111
Hey Phile (and anyone else):

I am having some more temperature concerns. To review:

Few weeks ago I did the mobo mod (TIM/HS covers) and my mobo temps dropped from 56 to 52. I replaced stock CPU HSF with Zalman 9500 and saw CPU idle/load coretemp drop from 56/70+ to 48/59.

Today I finally installed a second case fan (at the front) per your advice. The mobo temp dropped DRAMATICALLY! It is now at 42 (a TEN degree drop) - remember my room is >80C, so that 42 mobo temp is amazing to me. However, the CPU coretemp seems a bit higher (maybe it got higher over the past few days, but I just noticing it now). I just ran orthos and after 30 minutes coretemp was at 67C. Isn't this a bit high for no O/C and Zalman 9500? Zalman fan is on full blast.

Is it at all possible that front case fan altered case airflow somehow and made CPU less cool? The only other thing I can think of is that when I was inside the case I bumped the HSF and it shifted (rotationally) a bit. That is one thing I really don't like about the Zalman 9500, there is no way to secure it rotationally, if that makes any sense. So I pushed it back to where it should be (a <5degree angular shift). Is it possible that this degraded the thermal interface somehow? I was surprised after a week that the AS5 wasn't caked solid yet and preventing rotation. I wouldn't think the rotation would damage the interface because all that is necessary is for the microscopic surface imperfections to be filled in.

I have to admit, now I am considering lapping the interface surfaces, but that thought scares me (as did the thought of the mobo mod, but it worked out).

re: CPU temp
The front intake fan is not likely the cause of your slightly high CPU temps. You might try another attempt at installing the HSF. Sometimes it takes a few attempts to get it just right.

re: AS5
It won't ever solidify.

re: CNPS9500 mounting system
I know what you mean. The mounting system does not secure the HSF from any rotational movement. They could have addressed this by making the hole in the pressure bracket (as well as the bolt on the HSF) square, as opposed to circular.

re: lapping HSF and CPU
I highly recommend it. Here's the kit I used:
http://www.easypckits.com/products/premiumlk/

You'll want to get a set of papers for each piece you intend to lap, as the papers don't last too long. You might get away with using one kit for both, but do the CPU first, as the HSF won't need too much work. I shaved about 8C off my full-load core temps.

-phil