*** Official ASUS P5W DH Thread ***

[phile]

Originally posted by: SavageThrash
Hye guys, first post so go easy on me

Well i have read up to page 20 in this thread and my goodness it has helped me an unbelivable amout (thnx phile)

I still have one question though, here are my specs

p5w dh deluxe
ocz platinum ddr2 pc2-6400 (same as you a belive phile)
e6400 stock speeds
x1300
620w enermax liberty
zalman 9500 cooler

The question i have is, i was running orthos and it ran for 1 hour and 5 minutes until

1:Test 7, 4500 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M16297569 using 896K FFT length.
1:FATAL ERROR: Rounding was 0.4990234375, expected less than 0.4
1:Hardware failure detected, consult stress.txt file.
1:Torture Test ran 1 hours, 5 minutes 1 seconds - 1 errors, 0 warnings.
1:Execution halted.

thats the first core and the second finished that same test 7 just before that one died and I belive it was fine. heres core 2s message when the test was ended

2:Torture Test ran 1 hours, 5 minutes 1 seconds - 0 errors, 0 warnings.
2:Execution halted.

I decided to continue (i though it was continuing may have been a new one?)

Type: Blend - stress CPU and RAM Min: 8 Max: 4096 InPlace: No Mem: 1791 Time: 15
CPU: 2136MHz FSB: 266MHz [267MHz x 8.0 est.]
CPU: 2137MHz FSB: 266MHz [267MHz x 8.0 est.]
9/30/2006 2:15 PM
Launching 2 threads...
1:Using CPU #0
2:Using CPU #1
1:Beginning a continuous self-test to check your computer.
2:Beginning a continuous self-test to check your computer.
1ress Stop to end this test.
2ress Stop to end this test.
1:Test 1, 4500 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M17432577 using 896K FFT length.
2:Test 1, 4000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M18274367 using 1024K FFT length.
2:Test 2, 4000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M18274369 using 1024K FFT length.
1:Test 2, 4500 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M17432575 using 896K FFT length.
2:Test 3, 4000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M18074369 using 1024K FFT length.
1:Test 3, 4500 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M17115073 using 896K FFT length.
2:Test 4, 4500 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M17432577 using 1024K FFT length.
1:Test 4, 4500 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M16815071 using 896K FFT length.
2:Test 5, 4500 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M17432575 using 1024K FFT length.
1:Test 5, 4500 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M16515073 using 896K FFT length.
2:Test 6, 4500 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M17115073 using 1024K FFT length.
1:Test 6, 4500 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M16515071 using 896K FFT length.
1:Test 7, 4500 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M16297569 using 896K FFT length.
2:Test 7, 4500 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M16815071 using 1024K FFT length.
1:Self-test 896K passed!
1:Test 1, 5300 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M14942209 using 768K FFT length.
2:Self-test 1024K passed!
2:Test 1, 800000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M143361 using 8K FFT length.
1:FATAL ERROR: Rounding was 0.5, expected less than 0.4
1:Hardware failure detected, consult stress.txt file.
1:Torture Test ran 18 minutes 53 seconds - 1 errors, 0 warnings.
1:Execution halted.

2:Torture Test ran 18 minutes 53 seconds - 0 errors, 0 warnings.
2:Execution halted.

so i dont know what exactly is going on here, my comp doesnt crash or anything but i though that this would have lasted longer and with no errors.

any ideas?

EDIT: temps did not exceed 46 maybe 47c to my knowledge and i checked on it quite frequently

Sounds like the mem is crapping-out. Did you make sure to set the rated memory voltage and timings in the BIOS? If you're running the mem at 800MHz or less, set the voltage to 2.1v and the timings to 4-4-5-15 (sticker will say 4-5-4-15, but the BIOS has the order of the middle two values transposed).

If doing this does not help, consider running a memtest:
http://www.memtest.org

Burn ISO to CD and boot with it. Let it run through each of the 10 tests. In my experience, a bad dimm will cause errors on the first pass. If you get any errors, test with each stick separately. Errors on only one of the two dimms almost certainly means you have a bad dimm.

-phil

 

[SavageThrash]

Tried to boot up that memtest several other times and it hasnt worked for me

what am i doing wrong does the disc need other files not just the iso so it boots properly

Edit: Yes i do have teh memory at 2.1v although i think when idid the test i used ai booster to set that. also ai booster is saying when i set 2.1v in bios that its really 2.15v

timings are also set. i think i may have chaged some settings since i last did the test so i am gonna start it again and let it run.

any help on getting that mem test disc to work would be great

thnx again savage

 

[phile]

Originally posted by: SavageThrash
Tried to boot up that memtest several other times and it hasnt worked for me

what am i doing wrong does the disc need other files not just the iso so it boots properly

Edit: Yes i do have teh memory at 2.1v although i think when idid the test i used ai booster to set that. also ai booster is saying when i set 2.1v in bios that its really 2.15v

timings are also set. i think i may have chaged some settings since i last did the test so i am gonna start it again and let it run.

any help on getting that mem test disc to work would be great

thnx again savage

What exactly is happening when you try to boot with the memtest disc?

I don't recommend using AI Booster. It doesn't read voltages or FSB correctly. I wouldn't bet that AI Booster doesn't cause stability issues. Set everything directly in the BIOS.

-phil

 

[The111]

Originally posted by: philere: CPU temp
The front intake fan is not likely the cause of your slightly high CPU temps. You might try another attempt at installing the HSF. Sometimes it takes a few attempts to get it just right.

What makes no sense is that after 1 week of good temps, they jumped UP 5-10 degrees. Ever heard of anything like this happening? I'm still wondering if rotating the HSF back and forth 5 degrees (while clamped) caused the TIM to shift around and redistribute unevenly.

Another small source of confusion about the Zalman 9500... see in the directions where it talks about "horizontally/vertically oriented retention guide"? It was unclear to me exactly what they meant by retention guide, but I chose the horizontally oriented style. Not sure how much of a difference it would make, but this way seemed more likely to ensure an even clamping load on the assembly. Which did you do?

Thanks for the reply, I will at least try a re-seat when I get a chance, and maybe a lapjob.

 

[phile]

You need to use the retention bar that goes from the front to the back of the HSF, not the one that must be postioned through the heatpipes. Even better, the one that would be perpendicular to the memory slots, assuming you have the HSF mounted such that the fan blows air out of the back of the case.

-phil

 

[SavageThrash]

Originally posted by: phile

Originally posted by: SavageThrash
Tried to boot up that memtest several other times and it hasnt worked for me

what am i doing wrong does the disc need other files not just the iso so it boots properly

Edit: Yes i do have teh memory at 2.1v although i think when idid the test i used ai booster to set that. also ai booster is saying when i set 2.1v in bios that its really 2.15v

timings are also set. i think i may have chaged some settings since i last did the test so i am gonna start it again and let it run.

any help on getting that mem test disc to work would be great

thnx again savage

What exactly is happening when you try to boot with the memtest disc?

I don't recommend using AI Booster. It doesn't read voltages or FSB correctly. I wouldn't bet that AI Booster doesn't cause stability issues. Set everything directly in the BIOS.

-phil

Well i cant seem to figure which files go on the disc, i have tired 3 times to no avail. I use f8 to bring up the boot order and i boot from cd everytime but it just boots from windows. I am just copying files with windows built in stuff. should i use a program that makes bootable cds?

 

[phile]

First, you need to make sure you change the boot order in the BIOS, to make sure that the CD/DVD Drive comes before the HD. Second, the memtest file that you downloaded is an image file - .iso. You don't burn this file on to a CD. You need to burn the image. It's kind of like a .zip file, and the special burning method extracts the contents to the disc, during the burn. The disc will be bootable. If you have Nero, go to the backup section and choose Burn Image to Disc. The app that opens will have an option called Image, Project, Copy. Click that and choose Disc Image, at which point you will point it towards the .iso, and then burn.

If you do not have Nero, you can use Alcohol 120. Download a trial version here:
http://trial.alcohol-soft.com/en/

-phil

 

[SavageThrash]

Ok i got nero and got the mem test to run i ran it twice through no errors. i am about to start orthos again and see what happens

EDIT: Ran orthos and hes what i got

1:Test 3, 4500 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M17115073 using 896K FFT length.
2:FATAL ERROR: Rounding was 0.5, expected less than 0.4
2:Hardware failure detected, consult stress.txt file.
2:Torture Test ran 53 minutes 52 seconds - 1 errors, 0 warnings.
2:Execution halted.

1:Torture Test ran 53 minutes 52 seconds - 0 errors, 0 warnings.
1:Execution halted.


this time it was one core 2 so i dont know whats going on here, no over the top temps still around 46 c in coretemp

like i said the mem test ran fine for 2 cycles. The time that the orthos seems to be similar. with in about 12 minutes, the first time i ran it the priority was at 1 this time it was at 10 somehow if that makes a difference, maybe it completes faster with a higer priority. Eaither way theres soemthing going on here and i dont know what.

EDIT2: I ran the "original prime95 last night. I couldnt run one on each core though it wouldnt let me boot 2 so i just ram one and allowed it on eaither core, it ran at about 50% for 6 hours and it was fine.

 

[imported_bruce24]

Originally posted by: The111
Another small source of confusion about the Zalman 9500... see in the directions where it talks about "horizontally/vertically oriented retention guide"? It was unclear to me exactly what they meant by retention guide, but I chose the horizontally oriented style. Not sure how much of a difference it would make, but this way seemed more likely to ensure an even clamping load on the assembly. Which did you do?

I have the zalman 9500 and a case with two 120mm fans, running the ORTHOS stress test, my CPU is at 39c and my mb is at 47c. At idle, my CPU is around 29c.

Here are a couple of pictures that show how I installed the 9500 in my rig, maybe they will help clear up your confusion. Sorry about the quality, I?m not good with a camera.

http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture001rd2.jpg
http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture002xd2.jpg

btw:

* What speed is the Zalman fan running at?
* Are you sure that the rear case fan is sucking air out of the case and the front case fan is pulling air into the case?

-Bruce

 

[SavageThrash]

Any other cooling mods u have done to your mobo bruce to produce such low temps? such as the resetting of the northbridge etc with as5? (wouldnt affect the cpu but just wondering)

my e6400 runs at 34 to 37 idel and 44 or so running orthos.

iv been debating weaither or not to redo northbrige with as5 and also remove the covers on the heatsinks.

also not sure which temp is my mobo temp but in speedfan there is the proc and mobo temp listed i belive, one is 33 and the other is 31 running orthos. My mobo seems to be alot cooler then most other peoples and i havent even reset the northbridge with as5 etc. Is this a bug or is mine just stupidly cool for some reason?

 

[imported_bruce24]

I haven't done any mods and I have been getting those temps.

As you noted my MB sensor, which people here have said is near the southbridge, is showing temps in the high 40's. I haven't decided if this bothers me enough to try reseting the NB/SB with AS5.

-Bruce

 

[lopri]

Does the 14xx BIOS let you select lower multies? I have 1305 BIOS and haven't bothered to flash it to the new one.

 

[raincityboy]

Originally posted by: lopri
Does the 14xx BIOS let you select lower multies? I have 1305 BIOS and haven't bothered to flash it to the new one.

Yes it does.

 

[jedisponge]

Originally posted by: bruce24

Originally posted by: The111
Another small source of confusion about the Zalman 9500... see in the directions where it talks about "horizontally/vertically oriented retention guide"? It was unclear to me exactly what they meant by retention guide, but I chose the horizontally oriented style. Not sure how much of a difference it would make, but this way seemed more likely to ensure an even clamping load on the assembly. Which did you do?

I have the zalman 9500 and a case with two 120mm fans, running the ORTHOS stress test, my CPU is at 39c and my mb is at 47c. At idle, my CPU is around 29c.

Here are a couple of pictures that show how I installed the 9500 in my rig, maybe they will help clear up your confusion. Sorry about the quality, I?m not good with a camera.

http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture001rd2.jpg
http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture002xd2.jpg

btw:

* What speed is the Zalman fan running at?
* Are you sure that the rear case fan is sucking air out of the case and the front case fan is pulling air into the case?

-Bruce

Shouldn't your fan be in the other direction, towards the back of the case and not towards the memory? That was what I understood the directions to be.

 

[SavageThrash]

Originally posted by: jedisponge

Originally posted by: bruce24

Originally posted by: The111
Another small source of confusion about the Zalman 9500... see in the directions where it talks about "horizontally/vertically oriented retention guide"? It was unclear to me exactly what they meant by retention guide, but I chose the horizontally oriented style. Not sure how much of a difference it would make, but this way seemed more likely to ensure an even clamping load on the assembly. Which did you do?

I have the zalman 9500 and a case with two 120mm fans, running the ORTHOS stress test, my CPU is at 39c and my mb is at 47c. At idle, my CPU is around 29c.

Here are a couple of pictures that show how I installed the 9500 in my rig, maybe they will help clear up your confusion. Sorry about the quality, I?m not good with a camera.

http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture001rd2.jpg
http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture002xd2.jpg

btw:

* What speed is the Zalman fan running at?
* Are you sure that the rear case fan is sucking air out of the case and the front case fan is pulling air into the case?

-Bruce

Shouldn't your fan be in the other direction, towards the back of the case and not towards the memory? That was what I understood the directions to be.

No. I am running the led version of that fan and it blows air through the fins out to the exhasut fan which takes it out of the case

 

[smithy1185]

Hopefully somebody can help me with this. I just finished assembling my computer today with this mobo and nothing happens when I push the power button. The green led flashes but nothing is happening. Could it be because the bios are outdated? This is my first build and my other computer is an older Dell so I have nothing to test these components with.

 

[imported_bruce24]

[/quote]
Shouldn't your fan be in the other direction, towards the back of the case and not towards the memory? That was what I understood the directions to be.
[/quote]

No, see this:

http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zalmancc3.jpg

-Bruce

 

[SavageThrash]

Well i just ran orthos for about 7 hours and it was fine so i dont know what those errors were earlier. i think i may try to overclock this comp a little bit now.

 

[The111]

Originally posted by: bruce24I have the zalman 9500 and a case with two 120mm fans, running the ORTHOS stress test, my CPU is at 39c and my mb is at 47c. At idle, my CPU is around 29c.

Here are a couple of pictures that show how I installed the 9500 in my rig, maybe they will help clear up your confusion. Sorry about the quality, I?m not good with a camera.

http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture001rd2.jpg
http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture002xd2.jpg

btw:

* What speed is the Zalman fan running at?
* Are you sure that the rear case fan is sucking air out of the case and the front case fan is pulling air into the case?

Yes Bruce, all my fans are in the right direction, the Zalman is at 100%. Are the temps you're quoting coretemps or CPU temps? My cores are currently bouncing around between 47 and 52 as they idle. My "CPU" is idling at about 34. I really think maybe I damaged the TIM by bumping the HSF back and forth after the cure process had completed. I will probably reseat the HSF soon.

My mobo idles and loads at 41 now, a HUGE drop just by adding that front fan.

 

[phile]

Originally posted by: smithy1185
Hopefully somebody can help me with this. I just finished assembling my computer today with this mobo and nothing happens when I push the power button. The green led flashes but nothing is happening. Could it be because the bios are outdated? This is my first build and my other computer is an older Dell so I have nothing to test these components with.

If you CPU is a Core 2 Duo, you need bios 0801 or greater in order to POST with this mobo. Some have had success with 0701. Assuming it's not a BIOS issue, did you make sure to connect BOTH the 20+4-pin and 4-pin power supply connectors? If that's not the issue, either, try booting with a single stick of mem.

-phil

 

[phile]

Originally posted by: SavageThrash
Well i just ran orthos for about 7 hours and it was fine so i dont know what those errors were earlier. i think i may try to overclock this comp a little bit now.

7 hours Othos stable is good news.

-phil

 

[imported_bruce24]

Originally posted by: The111
Yes Bruce, all my fans are in the right direction, the Zalman is at 100%. Are the temps you're quoting coretemps or CPU temps? My cores are currently bouncing around between 47 and 52 as they idle. My "CPU" is idling at about 34. I really think maybe I damaged the TIM by bumping the HSF back and forth after the cure process had completed. I will probably reseat the HSF soon.

This is what I am seeing:

from EVEREST at idle:

Motherboard ------> 47c
CPU -----------------> 28c
CPU #1 / Core #1 -> 37c
CPU #1 / Core #2 -> 36c


from EVEREST with ORTHOS "Blend - stress CPU and RAM" running for about 30 min:

Motherboard ------> 47c
CPU -----------------> 39c
CPU #1 / Core #1 -> 53c
CPU #1 / Core #2 -> 51c


-Bruce

 

[SavageThrash]

is it just me or does the everest trial really suck?

 

[Smot678]

I posted this in the networking forum but I wanted to see if anyone else had networking issues on this motherboard:

My internet will randomly shut off when I am using it, it will have really bad spikes and then shut off. When I look at the status in my local area connection, the packets for recieve will stop changing, and sent will increment a few times, then reset back to 0. I have tried updating the drivers and this didn't work. I am using the onboard marvell yukon 88E8043 PCI-E on my pw5 dh deluxe motherboard. I have also tried swithing the ports on my hub and cables, and I know the internet isn't down because my roomates internet works. I am running windows xp x64. Any input would be appreciated.

 

[smithy1185]

Originally posted by: phile

Originally posted by: smithy1185
Hopefully somebody can help me with this. I just finished assembling my computer today with this mobo and nothing happens when I push the power button. The green led flashes but nothing is happening. Could it be because the bios are outdated? This is my first build and my other computer is an older Dell so I have nothing to test these components with.

If you CPU is a Core 2 Duo, you need bios 0801 or greater in order to POST with this mobo. Some have had success with 0701. Assuming it's not a BIOS issue, did you make sure to connect BOTH the 20+4-pin and 4-pin power supply connectors? If that's not the issue, either, try booting with a single stick of mem.

-phil

Yes, it is a Core2Duo but I believe the bios chip says 1305. I double checked and had the 20+4 pin attached to the mobo and I also tried using just one stick of ram and I tried switching them too but no luck. I guess I will call Asus tomorrow afternoon and hope they can shed some light on this(not counting on it). What has me puzzled, is that shouldn't the fan on the psu at least be spinning as well as the case fans? I'm not too experienced though with building so maybe this isn't the case.